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Wednesday, June 26, 2013

Giants coach Flannery says Dodgers failed in the “Humanity” department.

San Francisco Giants third base coach Tim Flannery had some harsh words for the Dodgers after Tuesday’s game, but they had nothing to do with the action on the field.

The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: June 26, 2013 at 06:11 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Padraic Posted: June 26, 2013 at 08:46 PM (#4478675)
In all honesty, as a member of a Humanities Department I have to say that is hard to do.
   2. GregD Posted: June 26, 2013 at 09:41 PM (#4478715)
At that point it's time to move on to Psych or, as a last resort, Business.
   3. Guapo Posted: June 26, 2013 at 10:16 PM (#4478738)
Oh. The humanity.
   4. cardsfanboy Posted: June 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM (#4478747)
Assuming Flannery is accurate with his objection, you kind of have to to agree with him.
   5. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: June 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM (#4478777)
I don't think failing to mention the donation is a big deal, but I do have to give credit to Flannery for his work to help Stow. From TFA:

Some helpful background: Flannery's band has played concerts and released a DVD to benefit Stow. They raised $75,000 for Stow at four concerts earlier this year.
   6. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: June 26, 2013 at 11:58 PM (#4478800)
Not a lawyer, but I'm guessing the Dodgers legal team has made it well known to everyone in the org that mentioning his name is forbidden. It says as much in the article. I'm sure the BBTF legal community can shed more light on this, especially since everything happened when McCourt still ran the show.
   7. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: June 27, 2013 at 12:44 AM (#4478816)
Right. The objection is that with a pending suit (or whatever the proper legal term is) from the Stows, the Dodgers must at all costs avoid admitting any fault wrt the incident, including I guess mentioning it. That part I agree with and in fact find obvious. The objection to THAT from local (SF Bay) IANALs is that the Dodgers should just settle the suit by paying all the medical bills. That bit I have no idea about.
   8. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: June 27, 2013 at 01:27 AM (#4478824)
I wish there was more context wrt Flannery's first statement (wishes Stow would just "go away"). In that context, it's incredibly callous no matter how you try to interpret, unless it is a more subtle way of saying that it would be nice if the Dodgers did something (ie, the right thing) to fix the situation and not have it brought up everytime they play, especially in LA.

Fwiw, the atmosphere at Dodger Stadium has improved immensely in the last couple of years. During the worst of the McCourt years, I chose to bring my boys to games in San Diego rather than LA. This year, my 5 year old and I went to opening day and a few weeks ago, the whole family took in a game including my 3 year old, my 2 year old nephew, and my 3 month old. I wouldn't have even attempted that a few years back.

So yeah, even if it is a-holilish to say, I think there are lots of people that would like to see the Stow situation resolved because things are better and I'm sure most folks would like to see the Dodgers take care of Stow but they can't say anything publicly.
   9. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 27, 2013 at 01:28 AM (#4478825)
The objection to THAT from local (SF Bay) IANALs is that the Dodgers should just settle the suit by paying all the medical bills. That bit I have no idea about.

Probably more at stake than just the medical bills - loss of income, pain & suffering, punitive damages, etc.
   10. PASTE does not get put on waivers in August Posted: June 27, 2013 at 02:04 AM (#4478830)
I read #7 as suggesting the Dodgers should offer to pay the medical bills to settle the case; I don't think there's any chance the family would accept that, and I doubt the Dodgers are interested in any course of action that involves them acknowledging fault.
   11. Flynn Posted: June 27, 2013 at 03:44 AM (#4478839)
Stow has become big news again in the Bay Area, since Stow's insurance provider recently decided to stop paying for his care at a live-in rehab facility in Bakersfield.
   12. Bitter Mouse, Space Tyrant Posted: June 27, 2013 at 08:18 AM (#4478860)
As a Giants fan I am more than willing to believe Dodgers have no humanity. It seems like there are some nice Dodger fans here, but I suspect it is all a trick, maybe a flase flag operation for an alien invasion or something.
   13. gef, more dangerous than a monkey w/ a razor blade Posted: June 27, 2013 at 09:26 AM (#4478886)
As a Giants fan I am more than willing to believe Dodgers have no humanity. It seems like there are some nice Dodger fans here, but I suspect it is all a trick, maybe a flase flag operation for an alien invasion or something.


I can easily imagine Tommy "Dumber Than 10 Venusian Dogs" Lasorda as that weird tentacled Martian overseer thing in the plastic sphere in Invaders from Mars.
   14. Charles S. storms out of Wrigley before walk-off Posted: June 27, 2013 at 09:59 AM (#4478903)
The objection is that with a pending suit (or whatever the proper legal term is) from the Stows, the Dodgers must at all costs avoid admitting any fault wrt the incident, including I guess mentioning it.

I'm not sure that praising the kid for giving money to help out Stow is anywhere in the same ballpark as admitting fault. It's just being decent people.
   15. Deaf Jeaf Posted: June 27, 2013 at 10:16 AM (#4478924)
Corporations aren't decent people.
   16. valuearbitrageur Posted: June 27, 2013 at 12:14 PM (#4479036)
Not a lawyer, but I'm guessing the Dodgers legal team has made it well known to everyone in the org that mentioning his name is forbidden. It says as much in the article. I'm sure the BBTF legal community can shed more light on this, especially since everything happened when McCourt still ran the show.


it's at this point a competent exec tells his crack legal team to STFU and go sit in the corner.

it's absurd, it's not increasing their liability, and even if it did far more factors greatly outweigh it. They could publicly pronounce their support for Stow every day, pay his medical bills, and it would make a gnats ass worth of damage to their case.
   17. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: June 27, 2013 at 02:15 PM (#4479176)
it's at this point a competent exec tells his crack legal team to STFU and go sit in the corner.

it's absurd, it's not increasing their liability, and even if it did far more factors greatly outweigh it. They could publicly pronounce their support for Stow every day, pay his medical bills, and it would make a gnats ass worth of damage to their case.


That's just, like, your opinion, man.

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