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Wednesday, September 11, 2019

Giants fire eight pro scouts, including some key to World Series title runs

Big changes are inevitable in a regime change, and the Giants are no exception.

In the first of what could be many such moves, the Giants fired eight of their 20 pro scouts Tuesday, including some who have been with the organization for more than two decades and provided invaluable information during the club’s three World Series title runs.

The most recognizable names are Brian Johnson, of 1997 home run fame, and Steve Balboni, both of whom served as pro scouts for the past 10 seasons and were relied on heavily during the 2010, 2012 and 2014 postseasons.

Johnson lives in Detroit and saw the Tigers a lot in 2012. Giants officials credited the intelligence he provided with helping them sweep Detroit in the World Series.

This news does explain why the scouts I’ve gotten used to seeing at the local minor-league games have been strangely absent lately….

 

QLE Posted: September 11, 2019 at 04:27 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: brian johnson, firings, giants, scouts, steve balboni

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   1. Walt Davis Posted: September 11, 2019 at 05:23 AM (#5878324)
20 "pro" scouts as in 20 guys to scout the other 29 teams? That does seem like overkill. I suppose if each lives in a ML city then travel costs are pretty much nil.
   2. WSPanic Posted: September 11, 2019 at 10:52 AM (#5878379)
Wouldn't "pro" include the 27 different minor leagues as well?
   3. Itchy Row Posted: September 11, 2019 at 11:07 AM (#5878386)
One of the scouts who was fired is Glenn Tufts. He and Primate Bob Tufts were born 11 months and 40 miles apart in Massachusetts. I don't see that they're related. "Tufts" might be a more common name in Massachusetts than it is in other places.
   4. kubiwan Posted: September 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM (#5878396)
He and Primate Bob Tufts were born 11 months and 40 miles apart in Massachusetts. I don't see that they're related.


For Mrs. Tuft's sake, I certainly hope they are not twins!!!
   5. PreservedFish Posted: September 11, 2019 at 11:34 AM (#5878399)
20 "pro" scouts as in 20 guys to scout the other 29 teams? That does seem like overkill. I suppose if each lives in a ML city then travel costs are pretty much nil.


Perhaps these guys are paid almost nothing, free baseball tickets and a hobby, more like bird dogs.
   6. Itchy Row Posted: September 11, 2019 at 12:03 PM (#5878403)
Now I'm imagining Steve Balboni getting free tickets from both the Giants and the Royals for games in Kansas City and then selling all of them because he can just tell the guy at the entrance "I'm Steve ####### Balboni."

A world with a corrupt Steve Balboni is a better place.
   7. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 11, 2019 at 12:07 PM (#5878405)
Perhaps these guys are paid almost nothing, free baseball tickets and a hobby, more like bird dogs.

Yeah, probably a per diem for each game they do.
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 11, 2019 at 12:20 PM (#5878408)
Perhaps these guys are paid almost nothing,
Hey, Steve Balboni has to pay his personal trainer.
   9. The Mighty Quintana Posted: September 11, 2019 at 12:48 PM (#5878415)
Steve Balboni is a distant cousin of mine. But safe to say, while growing up, I never tried to pattern my game after him. Probably no 11 year old ever has or will.
   10. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 11, 2019 at 01:04 PM (#5878418)
My cousin scouted amateurs for the Reds in the SEIndiana area. He got some remuneration but likePF said, it was more like a hobby. I think he said that one kid got to AA, but SE Indiana was not a hotbed for baseball.
   11. Rally Posted: September 11, 2019 at 01:31 PM (#5878423)
You can always hope to be promoted to Southwest Indiana, where Don Mattingly came from. When I lived in the general area, Kentucky side, I knew a few Mattinglys. All claimed to be related to Donnie Baseball. No idea if any actually were.
   12. WSPanic Posted: September 11, 2019 at 03:41 PM (#5878464)
"Tufts" might be a more common name in Massachusetts than it is in other places.


My cousins went to Tufts University in MA. Charles Tufts, the founder, didn't have any children. So, it's not his fault.
   13. Walt Davis Posted: September 11, 2019 at 07:10 PM (#5878502)
#2 ... that's what I'm asking. My understanding has always been that a team has some scouts that scout other ML teams ("advance scouts") and others who scout the minors and yet others who scout amateurs. The word "pro" there is very unclear -- technically anybody paid to scout is a professional scout ... or do they mean they scout the "pros" (usually meaning the majors but could also mean majors and minors). The example given in the excerpt was a guy who was scouting the Tigers. Maybe he was also scouting the minor leagues in Michigan, Ohio, etc.

So firing 8 of 20 guys who are scouting only 29 other teams sounds "reasonable" (and easily replacable given there are only 14 other games per day and they're all available on video/statcast/etc.) Firing 40% of your entire scouting staff sounds "drastic." I'm asking which of those is the case here.

My cousin scouted amateurs for the Reds in the SEIndiana area. He got some remuneration but likePF said, it was more like a hobby. I think he said that one kid got to AA, but SE Indiana was not a hotbed for baseball.

I think these guys were called "stringers" back in the day. Teams had them everywhere and their job was basically "hey, there's a kid here in East BugFork that you might want to send a real scout to check out." Friend of mine played American Legion ball in Chicago and he said his coach was one of those -- basically to just let the team know if anybody interesting came through that league that year.
   14. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 12, 2019 at 04:07 AM (#5878589)
Steve Balboni once hit a friend of mine directly in the face with a foul ball... in the upper deck! And it hurt. My friend didn't even get the baseball, which was deftly scooped up by an opportunistic fan.

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