Outside of Cain and Lincecum, what the hell do the Giants have to trade that would be worth Cabrera?

I think this is a silly complaint. Why not offer all of your players on the market if someone is willing to overpay. The Marlins are not obligated to trade Cabrera. Why not ask for the moon? I compare this a bit to the price of plywood when a hurricane is on the way. If it's not worth it to pay $20 a board then don't. It might be worth it to someone. Probably the person who most desperately needs it.

The last straw was demanding that Sabean wash Sampson's car every Monday for two years.

Outside of Cain and Lincecum, what the hell do the Giants have to trade that would be worth Cabrera?

That's what I was thinking-
of course what Sabean probably thinks is good value for Cabrera- Beinfest would not.

Beinfest HAS to get good and young and CHEAP talent in return, absolutely has to- Sabean's mindset is so diamterically opposed to Beinfest's that they are not in the same hemisphere when it comes to looking at talent and evaluating trades.

I compare this a bit to the price of plywood when a hurricane is on the way. If it's not worth it to pay $20 a board then don't. It might be worth it to someone. Probably the person who most desperately needs it.

Which is why there are laws against such things. Not saying what the Marlins are doing is illegal, but your analogy doesn't fit. A better one would be to put your house on the market for 50% over it's value.

A better one would be to put your house on the market for 50% over it's value.

Seems to be exactly what 4+ million people are doing these days.

’I hate to speak to somebody else’s business, but you wonder if they really want to trade the player or if they absolutely, positively have to win the deal in such a one-sided fashion

"I hate to speak to somebody else's business, but I will."

Why should they trade Cabrera unless they win the deal in such a one-sided fashion?

Sabean was probably hoping that Miggy hit the FA market in a couple of years, where he could make a big splash by signing him as the final piece to the puzzle.

I compare this a bit to the price of plywood when a hurricane is on the way. If it's not worth it to pay $20 a board then don't. It might be worth it to someone. Probably the person who most desperately needs it.

Jesus. I'm a finance guy who puts very little stock in "business ethics", but even I think price-gouging people immediately before or after tragedies just for profiteering's sake is abhorrent.

When was the last time any of you guys picked up some half-inch exterior plywood at the local Home Depot? $20 a sheet is not price-gouging, it's a sale.

Negotiating a trade through the media?

I'm not sure that's a tactic with much upside.

I'd think Cabrera is too young for Sabes anyway.

I'd think Cabrera is too young for Sabes anyway.

He's about the right age to be a batboy for them though.

When was the last time any of you guys picked up some half-inch exterior plywood at the local Home Depot? $20 a sheet is not price-gouging, it's a sale.

That's true, but the overall point is clear.

Jesus. I'm a finance guy who puts very little stock in "business ethics", but even I think price-gouging people immediately before or after tragedies just for profiteering's sake is abhorrent.

Which is why most places subject to natural disasters prohibit such activities by law. Florida is very aggressive at policing such matters. The Attorney general has a hotline in place for people to call to report price gouging. They love to prosecute such cases.

Florida is very aggressive at policing such matters. The Attorney general has a hotline in place for people to call to report price gouging. They love to prosecute such cases.

Given the fact that Florida ranks up there with Texas as "state containing the largest number of idiots," I'm not sure I'd use them as an example. This is a state that wants the rest of the U.S. to subsidize its residents for choosing to live in a place with crappy weather.

Here's an idea: if a merchant does price gouging following a natural disaster, NEVER SHOP AT HIS STORE AGAIN.

Why should they trade Cabrera unless they win the deal in such a one-sided fashion?

Because in the real world, where you need to two parties to agree on a deal you will quickly find your offers restricted if you don't deal on fair footing. Most deals, need to "appear" win/win to the parties or they won't make them.

How about Andy Marte playing third in telephone park?

This is a state that wants the rest of the U.S. to subsidize its residents for choosing to live in a place with crappy weather.

Um, say what?

Here's an idea: if a merchant does price gouging following a natural disaster, NEVER SHOP AT HIS STORE AGAIN.

Maybe you have been able to somehow shelter your existence from any possible outside human influence, but the vast majority of us have to live in the real world. The consequences of unfettered price gouging affect everyone, whether they patronize such merchants or not.

If a guy cannot afford to properly protect his home because of price gouging, it may get destroyed and ultimately my insurance rates will rise. If a guy cannot afford to feed his family after a disaster due to the same reasons, he may try to steal my food or money.

Now, feel free to call such people idiots for not preparing ahead of time. I do all the time. 12 hours after the passage of Hurricane Wilma in 2005, I saw first hand a line 2 miles long of cars trying to get into a turnpike service station to get gas for their generators. Saw thousands sitting in the hot sun waiting for state relief trucks to arrive with food and water. But that doesn't mean I want them to get what they deserve for their lack of preparedness. Because one way or another it will cost me. And thus, I will be paying the gougers, if even just indirectly.