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Wednesday, April 16, 2014

Gleeman: Mets minor league team is hosting “Seinfeld night”

Commenter: “I hear the Mets are going to have a related promotion at Citi Field where they score about nothing.”

To celebrate the 25th anniversary of “Seinfeld” starting on NBC the Mets’ Single-A affiliate, the Brooklyn Cyclones of the New York-Penn League, are hosting a “Seinfeld Night” at the ballpark on July 5.

Darren Rovell of ESPN.com reports that the first 2,500 fans will get a Keith Hernandez bobblehead depicting him from the “Magic Loogie” episode of the show. Some other details of the festivities, via Rovell:

During the game, the team will become Vandelay Industries Park, named for the latex company George Costanza tells the unemployment office he might work for. The Cyclones say that anyone who can present a legitimate business card that shows they are a latex salesman will get in for free.

Thanks to Newman, mailmen in uniform will throw out the first pitch. Fans will have a chance to take part in an eating contest featuring cereal, Jerry’s favorite food, and there will be a dancing contest where fans will try to dance just like Elaine. To commemorate one of Jerry’s most awkward moments, the Cyclones will wear puffy shirts during batting practice.

The District Attorney Posted: April 16, 2014 at 02:16 PM | 167 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. winnipegwhip Posted: April 16, 2014 at 02:46 PM (#4687096)
They should have fans wager on being Masters of Their Domain and have Morganna show up in the third inning.
   2. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: April 16, 2014 at 03:03 PM (#4687108)
I miss sitcoms. I was watching some Family Ties episodes with my daughter the other night. It's amazing that we can't do that anymore.
   3. Kurt Posted: April 16, 2014 at 03:04 PM (#4687109)
On July 6, the Cyclone players will go to the offices of randomly selected fans and boo and heckle *then*.
   4. Kurt Posted: April 16, 2014 at 03:06 PM (#4687112)
I miss sitcoms. I was watching some Family Ties episodes with my daughter the other night. It's amazing that we can't do that anymore.


It sounds like you just did!

(seriously, when our family watches TV it's all Netflix - Malcolm in the Middle, F&G, Xena, Buffy...)
   5. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: April 16, 2014 at 03:10 PM (#4687117)
They should have Jason Alexander and Bette Midler on hand to demonstrate the new home plate blocking rules.
   6. Moeball Posted: April 16, 2014 at 03:20 PM (#4687130)
How could you not have Junior Mints at the concession stands? Everybody loves Junior Mints!

They would get local fresh fruit...or soup...but they've been banned!
   7. Hal Chase School of Professionalism Posted: April 16, 2014 at 03:28 PM (#4687141)
I'd like to see the puffy batting practice jerseys have "Moops" emblazoned across the front.
   8. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 16, 2014 at 03:43 PM (#4687152)
The PA announcer will be a low-talker, so no one will be able to tell what's going on
   9. just plain joe Posted: April 16, 2014 at 03:50 PM (#4687163)
To celebrate the 25th anniversary of “Seinfeld” starting on NBC the Mets’ Single-A affiliate, the Brooklyn Cyclones of the New York-Penn League, are hosting a “Seinfeld Night” at the ballpark on July 5.


Not that there's anything wrong with that.
   10. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: April 16, 2014 at 03:55 PM (#4687170)
I was just watching the "Seinfeld-vision" episode of "30 Rock". Presumably this game will not be held in a secret European country only rich people know about.

   11. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: April 16, 2014 at 04:00 PM (#4687177)
Frank Costanza: What the hell did you trade Scott Kazmir for? He had 200 innings pitched and over 250 strikeouts last year, he's got great mechanics, you don't know what the hell you're doin'!!

Wilpon: Well, Kazmir was a good prospect, no question about it. But my baseball people loved Victor Zambrano's arm. They kept saying 'Big Z', 'Big Z.' I didn't know they meant the other one!
   12. Greg K Posted: April 16, 2014 at 04:05 PM (#4687185)
I miss sitcoms. I was watching some Family Ties episodes with my daughter the other night. It's amazing that we can't do that anymore.

Modern Family is pretty much an 80s era sit-com. With some superficial 21st century window dressing like a gay couple and talking head scenes. But at a fundamental level each episode could just as easily be written for any of the 80s ones.
   13. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: April 16, 2014 at 04:25 PM (#4687209)
But at a fundamental level each episode could just as easily be written for any of the 80s ones.

Granted I've only seen a few, one I did see was centered around Matthew Broderick trying to get down with Ty Burrell. It was painfully forced and unfunny with cutaways to 'talking head' jokes serving as an apology for the crappy storyline. I'm sure they can do better, but I'm not exactly setting my DVR and I'm certainly not having my daughter in the room.
   14. SouthSideRyan Posted: April 16, 2014 at 05:15 PM (#4687269)
Try The Middle, Robert.
   15. Greg K Posted: April 16, 2014 at 05:19 PM (#4687275)
Granted I've only seen a few, one I did see was centered around Matthew Broderick trying to get down with Ty Burrell. It was painfully forced and unfunny with cutaways to 'talking head' jokes serving as an apology for the crappy storyline. I'm sure they can do better, but I'm not exactly setting my DVR and I'm certainly not having my daughter in the room.

Yeah that one was pretty bad, as "guest-star" episodes usually are.

EDIT: Though I did say it was like an 80s sit-com, I didn't say it was good!
   16. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 16, 2014 at 05:27 PM (#4687283)
So does the bobble head actually spit loogies? Because that would be a pretty cool thing to have in my office.
   17. Willie Mayspedester Posted: April 16, 2014 at 05:45 PM (#4687303)
   18. boteman Posted: April 16, 2014 at 06:25 PM (#4687337)
So does the bobble head actually spit loogies? Because that would be a pretty cool thing to have in my office.

I recorded a sniglet of Captain Picard from the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" yelling, "Not good enough, dammit! NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!" and played it to a friend. He loved it so much that he asked me for the file and later told me that he would play it to his underlings at work when they would report to him that they had somehow come up short on a project.
   19. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 16, 2014 at 06:27 PM (#4687338)
The Cardinals should call up the Cyclones, copy this special promotion, and Yadier, Yadier, Yadier, it'd be great.
   20. tfbg9 Posted: April 16, 2014 at 06:40 PM (#4687349)
When the Cyclone manager comes out of the dugout to complain to the ump, he should just say
"My wife is a slut."
   21. AndrewJ Posted: April 16, 2014 at 07:18 PM (#4687370)
Will the fans do a "thank you wave" instead of a Wave?
   22. TerpNats Posted: April 16, 2014 at 07:37 PM (#4687378)
As long as wedding invitations aren't among the giveaways. (I also recall Wayne Knight threw out the first pitch at Yankee Stadium the night before the final "Seinfeld" ep, and was welcomed to the mound by Bob Sheppard's "Hello, Newman!")

Regarding current sitcoms, "Mom" -- which just concluded its first season Monday and will return this fall -- is an atypical Chuck Lorre sitcom, quietly terrific. Anna Faris (Christy) and Allison Janney (Bonnie) have superb comedic chemistry as two generations of recovering alcoholics struggling economically, and Christy's daughter, a pregnant teen, gave birth to a girl on the season finale. In addition, Christy's father is back in her life, as Bonnie finally forgave him to abandoning her once she got preggers. It's a very funny series with some serious, poignant undertones that never devolves into an '80s afterschool special. Faris is as charmingly sexy as she's ever been, and while we've long known Janney is an excellent actress, who knew she had this kind of comedic talent? Well worth watching.
   23. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 16, 2014 at 08:20 PM (#4687400)
I just started watching Modern Family in syndication and while a lot of folks hate on it, I enjoy it. I could generally do with less of Ty Burrell's character (one reason the Matthew Broderick episode fell flat) and more of everyone else, and some of the gags are a bit too predictable, but in general it's a good show. And yes, other than lacking a laugh track, it's pretty much a normal sit-com.

I've also heard great things about Trophy Wife. A girl I went to college with is one of the writers/creators, but I haven't had a chance to watch it.
   24. Canker Soriano Posted: April 16, 2014 at 08:23 PM (#4687403)
I prefer my sitcoms unwatched by the masses. At this point, I'm basically down to "New Girl" and "Community" (which are, respectively, terrific and really terrific), having lost 30 Rock, The Office, and How I Met Your Mother in the last 18 months.

I tried Modern Family and found it unappealing. I don't understand why people keep throwing awards at it. And if they're going to insist on it, at least give one to poor Ed O'Neill, who probably deserved at least a couple of Emmy nominations for his work on the early seasons of Married with Children.
   25. Hysterical & Useless Posted: April 16, 2014 at 09:34 PM (#4687460)
A colleague of mine loves Modern Family and lent me the 1st season a couple of years ago. I watched the first disc and couldn't get any farther. Thought it was awful. But then she's said more than once that her favorite film is The Birdcage, so I think we have very different tastes.
   26. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 16, 2014 at 09:53 PM (#4687469)
Community and Modern Family are very good sitcoms, but are much like Arrested Development that they are funnier if you've watched more episodes.
They both use repeating gags, references to other episodes, and require you to pay attention.
I enjoy Modern Family more as a series simply because it's more coherent over a stretch of episodes.
Community episodes are more "single-serving insanity" nowadays, with gimmick episodes galore. There are probably bigger laughs in a Community episode, but there are also bigger dead spots.

The Matthew Broderick Modern Family episode was probably the worst one in the history of the show.

To see a VERY funny 80s-style 'wacky hijinx' episode, this season's "Las Vegas" episode was almost pitch-perfect. It showcases Modern Family's best trick "the 3rd act collision" when the stories come together.
Seinfeld and Arrested Development did that better than any other show, but Modern Family is a worthy contender.
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: April 16, 2014 at 09:53 PM (#4687470)
I just started watching Modern Family in syndication and while a lot of folks hate on it, I enjoy it. I could generally do with less of Ty Burrell's character (one reason the Matthew Broderick episode fell flat) and more of everyone else, and some of the gags are a bit too predictable, but in general it's a good show. And yes, other than lacking a laugh track, it's pretty much a normal sit-com.

I've also heard great things about Trophy Wife. A girl I went to college with is one of the writers/creators, but I haven't had a chance to watch it.


People hate on Modern Family? I mean any more than any other sitcom? I agree about the Ty Burrell character pulling the show down, but outside of that it's a pretty good show with more depth of characters than you would expect, and decent storylines that don't immediately delve into cliche and predictable.

Also agree about the Middle. That is much closer to an 80's sitcom with a 2010's sensibilities. (Although I don't watch either show religiously, I think they are both solid quality entertainment...much better than the fat guy hot chick formula that was the 90's early aughts...or that godawful Raymond show which was another fat guy hot chick concept but instead made the fat guy normal and as pitiful of a human that he would have fit right in with the Seinfeld cast)
   28. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 16, 2014 at 10:00 PM (#4687472)
Anyone who gets interviewed at the stadium has to make note that the peanuts are making them thirsty.
   29. cardsfanboy Posted: April 16, 2014 at 10:00 PM (#4687473)
Regarding current sitcoms, "Mom" -- which just concluded its first season Monday and will return this fall -- is an atypical Chuck Lorre sitcom, quietly terrific. Anna Faris (Christy) and Allison Janney (Bonnie) have superb comedic chemistry as two generations of recovering alcoholics struggling economically, and Christy's daughter, a pregnant teen, gave birth to a girl on the season finale. In addition, Christy's father is back in her life, as Bonnie finally forgave him to abandoning her once she got preggers. It's a very funny series with some serious, poignant undertones that never devolves into an '80s afterschool special. Faris is as charmingly sexy as she's ever been, and while we've long known Janney is an excellent actress, who knew she had this kind of comedic talent? Well worth watching.


I've watched a couple of episodes of MOM...and I hope it lasts. It's not an immediately great show, but it's one of those shows where you can see how good it can be if massaged right. The cast is terrific, the willingness to approach any subject with irreverence is fantastic, it just needs a little room for growth. I know they made a lot of cast changes as the season progressed, not sure it's going to work.


I'm sad that Enlisted never found it's niche. It was another show that had potential, but might have needed to expand on the relative caricatures of each of the characters.
   30. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 16, 2014 at 10:04 PM (#4687475)
People hate on Modern Family?


Eh, I think it gets success backlash more than actual dislike. If no one watched it and it was on NBC I'm pretty sure it'd have a cult following telling people "no, no, it's really good!" It's not like that abomination Big Bang Theory, which is just awful. I think MF is a perfectly cromulent sitcom, I don't make time for it but some of what I saw was pretty good.

Also, I felt very weird about that show after watching an episode and hearing Sofia Vergara's accent, because I didn't realize that was her actual accent and instead thought it was just put on for laughs.

I'm a bit of a hipster when it comes to sitcoms, though. It's pretty rare that I closely follow a major hit.
   31. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 16, 2014 at 10:07 PM (#4687477)
while we've long known Janney is an excellent actress, who knew she had this kind of comedic talent?


It's been there all along! I've been meaning to watch that show simply because it has Janney.
   32. cardsfanboy Posted: April 16, 2014 at 10:20 PM (#4687486)
I'm a bit of a hipster when it comes to sitcoms,


that much was obvious with this comment.

It's not like that abomination Big Bang Theory, which is just awful.


Big Bang theory is the only "true sitcom" in today's age I bother to watch. But I understand people not liking it for whatever reason, the hate only comes out from the hipsters(these are the people who have actually laughed at a Louis CK show or Parks and recreations or It's always sunny in philly...three really utterly unfunny shows, but fully hipster creditable)
   33. boteman Posted: April 16, 2014 at 10:44 PM (#4687494)
May we take away from this latest exchange that "hipster" is equivalent to "counter-culture type"??
   34. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 16, 2014 at 10:45 PM (#4687495)
Big Bang theory is the only "true sitcom" in today's age I bother to watch. But I understand people not liking it for whatever reason, the hate only comes out from the hipsters(these are the people who have actually laughed at a Louis CK show or Parks and recreations or It's always sunny in philly...three really utterly unfunny shows, but fully hipster creditable)

Parks and Recreation is really, really good. The first season wasn't all that good but it really picked up thereafter. It's 2nd and 3rd seasons were excellent. It hasn't been consistently good since then but it's generally really good. I think some people might have given up on it early on.

Does anyone actually want to talk about the Mets minor leaguers? They've had some guys get off to some good starts. Wilfredo Tovar and Dilson Herrera are playing well. Herrera has a .900 OPS in FSL and has been playing a bit of SS. Tovar has yet to strikeout this year but only has one walk. Also, Jacob Degrom has been great in 3 starts this year.
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: April 16, 2014 at 11:04 PM (#4687510)
Parks and Recreation is really, really good. The first season wasn't all that good but it really picked up thereafter. It's 2nd and 3rd seasons were excellent. It hasn't been consistently good since then but it's generally really good. I think some people might have given up on it early on.


I've heard that about Parks and Rec and had debated on whether it was Community I was going to bash or Parks and decided that Community was more popular of a show, and my issue is with people bagging on the popular shows and promoting their niche shows(or music or movies or whatever in reaction to popularity than an actual critique of the show...that is what hipsters are....lack of substance critique*, lacking any substantial criticism that isn't seen in aping a typical avant garde missive against mainstream media while propping up crappy clearly niche markets---nothing wrong with niche markets, but pretending it's superior to more popular ####, simply because "I don't have the brains to accept that other people might have different tastes than me..." is utterly ridiculous and makes up 90% of all hipster thoughts, inability to comprehend other viewpoints.)

* people who bad mouth Big Bang almost always fall in the line of "The show isn't promoting geekdom, it's laughing at geekdom...or it's promoting cliched characters".... neither of which is wrong, but it's not like the show and the viewers aren't aware of this and are able to enjoy it anyway....it's only the hipsters who think this is "insightful"...the next insightful thing from a hipster viewpoint, would be the first time a hipster viewpoint provided any substance to any person who has actually lived to 20 years old.
   36. billyshears Posted: April 16, 2014 at 11:37 PM (#4687527)
Big Bang theory is the only "true sitcom" in today's age I bother to watch. But I understand people not liking it for whatever reason, the hate only comes out from the hipsters(these are the people who have actually laughed at a Louis CK show or Parks and recreations or It's always sunny in philly...three really utterly unfunny shows, but fully hipster creditable)


I like The Big Bang Theory, Louis CK and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I also think the first couple of seasons of Modern Family are almost undeniably extraordinarily well crafted. We can all get along here.
   37. boteman Posted: April 16, 2014 at 11:57 PM (#4687532)
Nope! This is "Tastes great!" / "Less filling!" with guns and rocket launchers!!!11!!1
   38. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 12:46 AM (#4687542)
Louis CK show or Parks and recreations or It's always sunny in philly


You have me mostly pegged. I appreciate Louis CK's work but I don't love it. You're dead wrong about Parks & Rec, Community, and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I must presume, based upon your statements that you are a plebian philistine, and request that you get back to your job fetching me an overhopped craft beer.

Also, The Big Bang theory, from everything I've seen, enjoys insulting it's viewers.

We can all get along here.


Never! Compromise and collegiality are for ######## like Ghandi! DIE!
   39. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 17, 2014 at 07:46 AM (#4687559)
I like The Big Bang Theory (mainly for Jim Parson's portrayal of Sheldon Cooper) and Parks and Rec. But the two shows which had made me laugh most recently aren't either traditional or modern sitcoms. They are the recently canceled Psych on USA and Impractical Jokers on Tru.

Psych was like The Mentalist, only better. Impractical Jokers is a hidden camera show where the joke is on the performers, not the unsuspecting public.
   40. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: April 17, 2014 at 08:03 AM (#4687560)
Big Bang theory is the only "true sitcom" in today's age I bother to watch.

Big Bang is pretty much the only thing I watch (along with news and sports) on TV, period. That and "Agents of SHIELD".

(DC geeks hatred coming in 5...4...3...)
   41. Greg K Posted: April 17, 2014 at 08:23 AM (#4687565)
I always found Big Bang Theory to be more pandering than insulting towards its audience. But to be fair I haven't seen a great deal of that show so I shouldn't pass judgement.

I never thought of Parks and Rec as a niche show, hasn't it been running on one of the major networks for a pretty long time? I thought it was pretty much the same audience that had been watching The Office all those years. Seasons 2 and 3 I'd put up against almost any other show.

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, which is perhaps my favourite thing ever, I can see as a niche show. It is essentially a reboot of Seinfeld for a new generation, which knowing your (cardsfanboy's) thoughts on Seinfeld I fully understand why you'd not like it.
   42. depletion Posted: April 17, 2014 at 08:35 AM (#4687567)
I enjoy Modern Family. The Middle is my favorite of today's sitcoms. House always has clutter, the family borrows the church van (to replace their disabled car) until the church gets fed up and asks for it back. Also, it's pretty "family appropriate" for a fun thing to watch with the kids.
   43. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 17, 2014 at 08:54 AM (#4687576)
I'm not the target audience for The Middle, but it's okay. However, I could do without Frankie's voiceover narration. I hate that tool. I think the only recent TV show I've seen where it works is Burn Notice.
   44. Gazizza, my Dilznoofuses! Posted: April 17, 2014 at 09:17 AM (#4687585)
1) I watch the Big Bang Theory in passing, but what ruins it for me is Sheldon. He's so over the top controlling and selfish, I find it hard to believe anyone would put up with him and it takes me out of the show.
2) I have the same problem with Leslie on Parks & Rec. She's so controlling that I find it hard to believe these people look up to her so much. The show also relies on over the top annoying characters for my taste. (Jean-Ralphio, his sister and that new staffer from Eagleton make me want to turn the show off.) That said, Ron, Andy and April are three of the funniest characters on TV.
3) Community since about part way through Season 3 has relied on gimmick episodes a little too much. (Although some of the gimmicks have led to amazing episodes.) The return of Dan Harmon in Season 5 has improved its quality, but it's still down from its peak.
   45. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: April 17, 2014 at 09:20 AM (#4687586)
debated on whether it was Community I was going to bash or Parks and decided that Community was more popular of a show,


There's no way that's true, is it? Community has never gotten good numbers, while "Parks and Rec" has at least been okay. I love both shows, but "Parks" is definitely more mainstream.

I've never seen "The Middle", but I always enjoyed Neil Flynn on "Scrubs".
   46. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 09:29 AM (#4687593)
I'd put Modern Family at its peak up against any non-pantheon traditional sitcom (pantheon being Seinfeld, MASH, Cosby Show, Cheers). But it declined pretty quickly for me, and I lost interest about the time they decided to add more kids to the show.

I don't think BBT is awful at all - its very replacement level, cromulent TV. The jokes are predictable, the characters are predictable and pretty likeable, but that does not necessarily make for bad comedy (as opposed to say, Two and Half Men which does that AND is sexist and crude and unfunny with dispicable people I would like to see hit by a bus). I'll watch it in the background while I'm working, but its not something I search out to watch.

I caught one episode of "Surviving Jack" and found it pretty funny, but I rather doubt it hangs on.

Brooklyn-Nine-Nine is a fairly traditional sitcom that has been pretty consistently funny this year.
   47. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 17, 2014 at 09:43 AM (#4687604)
Two and Half Men which does that AND is sexist and crude and unfunny with dispicable people I would like to see hit by a bus


It is easier to watch (back when Charlie Sheen was part of the cast) if you pretend that Charlie Harper is a Raymond Chandler villain that Phillip Marlowe will face and this is his back story.
   48. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: April 17, 2014 at 09:44 AM (#4687607)
Agree with 46 -- First two seasons of MF are terrific. The case is just fantastic. BBT is perfectly fine.

I love Louie. It's not a traditional sitcom and rarely LOL funny, but the writing and characters are great IMO.

Archer and The League are also good. (although Archer has definitely faded)

If you want more traditional family oriented sitcoms, shows like Good Luck Charlie aren't bad. It's dumb, but my kids love it and it's not that different from a lot of 70s and 80s sitcoms.
   49. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 17, 2014 at 09:48 AM (#4687609)
My current nom de post (courtesy of quizup) tells you what I think about cardsfanboy's thoughts here...

Rather than a show by show rebuttal, I'll offer this screed (not claiming insight):

Sitcoms are a form of comfort food - hit the beats, don't grow, don't surprise. (As are police procedurals and a bunch of other formats.)

What some of the shows above do is bend that mold a little. IASiP does this by being transgressive. Community is television about television, more interested in commenting on the medium than anything else. Louie^ is less a sitcom than a series of short films with a consistent POV and some recurring characters. They also (and I'm generalizing) trust that the viewer is paying attention and, to be blunt, isn't *that* stupid. I'm not sure that this is wholly and entirely a good thing - I may love the esoteric references that, say, Archer throws out - but doing them for their own sake (which can happen) is, I'd argue, a negative. They tend to be less self contained (jokes that depend on (or are enriched by) having seen a previous episode - again, this can lead to fan service, like the Community Beetlejuice Gag that played out over multiple seasons)... rewarding attentiveness, which is (I think) the opposite of what a lot of sitcoms want you to do. If you accidentally start to pay too much attention to Suddenly Susan, you're going to change the channel. I don't watch a lot of TV so when I do I want to be rewarded - I'm going to actively engage with the show, think about how I'd write the joke, etc... - and want to be actively impressed and sometimes surprised. I'm not normally all that interested in hanging out with the old familiars to see what wacky thing happens next, even if they're charming and likable.

I'm certainly not trying to denigrate all old school shows - Modern Family, for example, didn't work for me, but it's quality construction. B99 (from the former PandR showrunner) has gotten really good over the course of the year and it's, as AG#1F notes, a fairly traditional show with some modern trappings. But the key (for me) is, I don't want to collapse onto the couch and passively take the show in - I want to think.


^ CK the standup is solid, but not someone I go out of my way for. I was stunned at how good this incarnation of his show can be; had no idea that he had it in him.
   50. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 09:50 AM (#4687610)
If you want more traditional family oriented sitcoms, shows like Good Luck Charlie aren't bad


Yea, a lot of the more family-oriented sitcoms have gravitated to basic cable like the Tyler Perry franchises, ABC Family, and Disney.

"The Goldbergs" is another more family oriented comedy that made me chuckle once or twice. My wife watched Suburgatory for a bit and it seemed amusing enough, although I didn't like Jeremy Sisto in the lead role.
   51. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 17, 2014 at 09:55 AM (#4687616)
It's rare to see a comedian as "in the zone" on every level as Louis CK has been these last years-- popularly, critically, experimentally, prolifically.

CK the standup is solid, but not someone I go out of my way for.

Whatever floats your boat. To me, Louis CK's standup is solid like Usain Bolt is spry.
   52. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:00 AM (#4687619)
Would you say he holds the comedy championship belt?

(even in jest, that was a difficult sentence to type)
   53. zonk Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:02 AM (#4687622)
Big Bang theory is the only "true sitcom" in today's age I bother to watch. But I understand people not liking it for whatever reason, the hate only comes out from the hipsters(these are the people who have actually laughed at a Louis CK show or Parks and recreations or It's always sunny in philly...three really utterly unfunny shows, but fully hipster creditable)



I like The Big Bang Theory, Louis CK and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I also think the first couple of seasons of Modern Family are almost undeniably extraordinarily well crafted. We can all get along here.


Heh... me too.

I honestly have never watched a first run BBT episode, but I do watch the TBS syndication -- at least, as background noise -- relatively often. It's basically the Journey of sitcoms -- competently crafted, with a lead/Fonzie-type breakout character who's a one note/one trick pony, but pretty good at hitting that one note regularly and well. It's candy, not nutrition - but candy is tasty sometimes.

I still think that Veep is probably the best sitcom out there right now... I want to like Silicon Valley, too -- but Mike Judge always seems to fall back on a sledgehammer when a little subtlety would be better. The reviews claim that the series picks up nicely halfway through the season, so I'm gonna keep watching.
   54. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:06 AM (#4687624)
Like zonk, I view TV as background noise. I can see the POV of der-Komminskar, where if you don't watch TV often you want to invest in what you watch. I invest myself more when it comes to movies.
   55. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:11 AM (#4687628)
Man, I wanna see Veep. Agree on Judge.

BBT: I've seen two or three first run eps and didn't care for it, though I don't disagree with your description or reasoning, zonk. I'm not a Parsons fan, which doesn't leave me with much.
(A-hole quip: found it more Dum Dums than Snickers.)

To be clear, I totally get using TV as background noise - instead, I use music, sports, and podcasts for that.
   56. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:12 AM (#4687629)
Would you say he holds the comedy championship belt?

(even in jest, that was a difficult sentence to type)


Joe Piscopo aside, most comedians couldn't punch through a Japanese sliding door. But yeah, Louis CK is the big dog of the moment. The last guy on this kind of crest was Chris Rock, but even Rock didn't have anything like CK's show. It might be interesting to put together a yearly timeline of which funny persons held the subjective imaginary throne.
   57. Greg K Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:16 AM (#4687630)
I still think that Veep is probably the best sitcom out there right now... I want to like Silicon Valley, too -- but Mike Judge always seems to fall back on a sledgehammer when a little subtlety would be better. The reviews claim that the series picks up nicely halfway through the season, so I'm gonna keep watching.

I've gotten into Veep lately. At first I was held back by the epitome of hipsterism - the original UK version was just so perfect it paled in comparison. Though to be fair, I was living in the UK when The Thick of It was on BBC, so it's not like it was some obscure show I sought out. I didn't feel like Veep was wholly committing to its characters are irredeemably selfish and incompetent.* But it's won me over now...the new season is interesting in that they seem to have introduced some new characters (the campaign staff) that truly are incompetent. There's something weird about Selina being exasperated with an incompetent staffer who is ####### up her ability to strategize with Mike over the phone. Mike!

*I'm still not sure Veep will ever be able to come up with such powerful scenes as Malcolm Tucker finally being crushed, or Glenn's pathetic resignation melt-down. The Thick of It surprised me how many times it actually almost made me cry...there's a moment when Nicola Murray, after a season-long struggle, finally accepts defeat and gives up her dream, she says "I really thought I could be Prime Minister", and her assistant, who had been her loyal friend the whole show and had seemingly put her heart into Nicola's career gives her an incredulous look and says "really?" Just soul crushing. I'm not sure the Veep characters are human enough for me to care in that way...Man I love that show. Veep seems to be trying to make Gary human by giving him ambitions, but I think it's too little too late, that guy is too far gone.
   58. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:22 AM (#4687634)
Has anyone watched Spaced or The IT Crowd? I wanted to like both shows, but couldn't get into them.
   59. Bitter Mouse Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:28 AM (#4687637)
(pantheon being Seinfeld, MASH, Cosby Show, Cheers).


I think there are a few more like the Mary Tyler Moore show, with WKRP and Barney Miller depending on your mood (I would put KRP there, and BM a step down).

For an amusing (and not much time) comedy I recently watched "Don't trust the B---- in Apt. 23" and found it OK to Netflix (it is only 26 episodes). Not a classic by any means, but OK.

   60. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:30 AM (#4687639)
I gave the IT Crowd a shot - it's fine (and Ayoade impressed me). Haven't seen Spaced yet - it's on my list for when I ditch cable with my impending move.
   61. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:30 AM (#4687640)
It might be interesting to put together a yearly timeline of which funny persons held the subjective imaginary throne.


nooooo, not you, too, gonfalon :/
   62. Greg K Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:33 AM (#4687646)
Has anyone watched Spaced or The IT Crowd? I wanted to like both shows, but couldn't get into them.

I found them both fairly watchable but nothing I'd spent too much time seeking out.

For British shows I'd never heard of before being introduced to them while in the UK Jam has stuck with me.

Which isn't to say I like it, I'm still not sure what I think of it...but it's always drawing me in. It's a sketch show from the 90s.

Here's the first sketch of the first episode, which more or less establishes the kind of show it is.

As far as sit-coms, Black Books is probably my favourite in terms of standard fare.
   63. Greg K Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:37 AM (#4687651)
In terms of Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory, sociopaths seem to be all the rage in TV shows these days.

Sherlock in Sherlock or Hanna in Girls being other prominent examples.
   64. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:37 AM (#4687652)
Jam is great. Great. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttt.
(Total Chris Morris fanboy (hasn't he directed some Veep?) - I have Blue Jam loaded onto my phone.)
   65. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:37 AM (#4687653)
For an amusing (and not much time) comedy I recently watched "Don't trust the B---- in Apt. 23" and found it OK to Netflix (it is only 26 episodes). Not a classic by any means, but OK.


I caught one by accident and I agree, it was pretty funny. James Vanderbeek has transitioned to comedy pretty well by playing a caricature of himself..

I miss Happy Endings.

I've gotten into Veep lately. At first I was held back by the epitome of hipsterism


I'm currently binging Season One. I found the first two eps to be awful, but by Ep 4 I was in stitches. That is a well-written sitcom.
   66. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:37 AM (#4687654)
It might be interesting to put together a yearly timeline of which funny persons held the subjective imaginary throne.

nooooo, not you, too, gonfalon :/


I said "might"! I've got Preston Sturges in 1941-42, Mel Brooks in 1974, whoever added this music in 2011, Louis CK this nanosecond, and you can fill in the rest.
   67. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:38 AM (#4687656)
To be clear, I totally get using TV as background noise - instead, I use music, sports, and podcasts for that.


When I lived alone during the aughts, I watched very little except sports, Seinfeld, and The Simpsons. Occasionally, I'd be lazy and let the TV stay on the same station, so I was familiar with Everybody Loves Raymond and Friends.
   68. Every Inge Counts Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:41 AM (#4687660)
The funniest show on TV is Bob's Burgers. I got rid of cable (and practically right now TV until I decide to at least grab some rabbit ears) earlier this year so I am missing out on some sitcoms I usually watch unless they are on Hulu. New Girl is not as funny as it was at the end of the 1st season and the 2nd season, but still quality. Brooklyn Nine-Nine is good. Mindy Project I think is the best of the three. Trophy Wife was good, from what I have seen Suburgatory was good as well. Big Bang Theory is decent mindless TV to me, I can turn it on and waste 22 minutes. 2 Broke Girls is garbage, but can be entertaining.
   69. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:43 AM (#4687661)
In terms of Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory, sociopaths seem to be all the rage in TV shows these days.


I can't remember who it was - Dana Stevens or Linda Holmes - but some critic went on a mini-rant about in that in regards to "The Bridge" where the lead was a detective with Asperger's. It had nothing to do with the plot other than to make her prickly and unemotional, but people with mental issues was all the rage, so they made the lead detective have Asperger's.

"Monk" I guess was the trend-setter in the "I don't have time for emotions, just give me facts" trope, with "Elementary" (Sherlock), "CSI" (Grissom), and "Sherlock" carrying the ball since then.
   70. Flynn Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:52 AM (#4687673)
There's a fair bit of debate in the Aspie community about Sheldon Cooper, with it being about 60/40 like to dislike. He's certainly an exaggerated version of autism, at least for somebody as nominally high-functioning as he is.
   71. puck Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:53 AM (#4687674)
It might be interesting to put together a yearly timeline of which funny persons held the subjective imaginary throne.


It's not possible...people would have to admit they liked Dane Cook.
   72. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:55 AM (#4687678)
So what would be the criteria for Most Meritorious Comedian? A combination of popularity and success? Does timelessness matter? And the year -- the year of release of a movie or album or TV show? If a comedian released an album in year 1 and didn't release another in year 3 but was still wildly popular in year 2, could he/she win for year 2?
   73. billyshears Posted: April 17, 2014 at 10:58 AM (#4687683)
I honestly have never watched a first run BBT episode, but I do watch the TBS syndication -- at least, as background noise -- relatively often. It's basically the Journey of sitcoms -- competently crafted, with a lead/Fonzie-type breakout character who's a one note/one trick pony, but pretty good at hitting that one note regularly and well. It's candy, not nutrition - but candy is tasty sometimes.

I still think that Veep is probably the best sitcom out there right now... I want to like Silicon Valley, too -- but Mike Judge always seems to fall back on a sledgehammer when a little subtlety would be better. The reviews claim that the series picks up nicely halfway through the season, so I'm gonna keep watching.


I'm basically with this 100%. I don't think I have ever actively tried to watch an episode of BBT or Veep, but they both seem to be on so much that I can't avoid them. BBT works just fine as something to amuse you while eating dinner (if there is no Mets game on, of course). Veep on the other hand is really quite good. I kind of regret not getting into that more.
   74. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 17, 2014 at 11:00 AM (#4687687)
I live with my girlfriend and her two young children, so the bit on Parks and Rec the other week with Ron talking about how "there is no quiet... only Doc McStuffins" now that he's a father, rang so, so true.

About the only thing I can stand when the kids are up in Good Luck, Charlie, which isn't far from a '90s era ABC sitcom. You could have seamlessly dropped that in between Boy Meets World and Step By Step, and that's a good thing where traditional sitcoms are concerned.

My favorite shows growing up were Seinfeld and The Simpsons. I'll catch snippets of Seinfeld on TBS here and there, but I can't remember the last full episode of The Simpsons I watched, which amazes me, since I feel like I reference it in some way almost every day.

Living with someone can definitely impact what you watch, though. In my bachelor days, it was lots of baseball, and TV shows. To be fair, I still have baseball on a LOT now, but not nearly as much of the shows I used to watch. The gf and I are fans of stuff like Seinfeld and Curb, but she's really fickle with most other shows and tends to check out after a couple of seasons when she thinks a show has peaked. But god damn it if she doesn't have that 2 Broke Girls show set on the DVR each Monday. Of course, I noticed she's usually "watching" that passively while doing something else, which seems to be how a lot of girls I know digest their TV. But that's a whole other topic.
   75. depletion Posted: April 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM (#4687703)
... I got rid of cable (and practically right now TV until I decide to at least grab some rabbit ears)...

I suggest antennasdirect.com, had good luck with product and phone support.
   76. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM (#4687704)
(S)he's usually "watching" that passively while doing something else, which seems to be how a lot of girls I know digest their TV. But that's a whole other topic.


That's how I digest TV. I am usually also reading something (print or online) while watching TV. I'm actually proud that I watched Silver Linings Playbook last nite and gave it full attention. My wife and I rarely break out the DVD player, but the mood struck us last nite.
   77. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: April 17, 2014 at 11:22 AM (#4687715)
Psych was like The Mentalist, only better.

And first, of course.

Only one mention of Brooklyn Nine-Nine so far. Easily a top 5 sitcom right now, although I do wonder how it will age. They've already set up the unneeded "will they or won't they" between Jake and Amy, so we'll have to see if they can navigate that one.
   78. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 17, 2014 at 11:25 AM (#4687721)
Re: #72--
Sure. All of it counts. It's a made-up thing.

For the timeline, I'm adding Michael Maltese for whatever day in 1944 he wrote "Little Red Riding Rabbit," Al Jaffee in 1973, Chris Morris in 1997, and Glenn Beck in 2009.

The industry balloting for an updated "100 Greatest Standups Ever" list is ongoing. Comedy Central put together the first list in 2004. I can only assume that Louis CK (#98) will be at least one spot higher this time.
   79. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 17, 2014 at 11:40 AM (#4687738)
Hey, I seconded Brooklyn Nine-Nine up-thread. Top five for sure. Your age question is a fair one.

I liked the first Dane Cook special - nice energy, though a little of him goes a long way.

there is no quiet... only Doc McStuffins

This is truth.

Dumb question: was the Mentalist meant to be funny?
   80. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 11:52 AM (#4687757)
but I can't remember the last full episode of The Simpsons I watched, which amazes me, since I feel like I reference it in some way almost every day.


Well every episode is airing August 21 through Labor Day on FXX, so here's your chance.
   81. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4687759)
I don't think it was meant to be funny, Der-K. Psych is definitely a dramedy with the emphasis on -medy whereas the Mentalist is a CBS procedural, but both shows have a fake psychic working as a police consultant.
   82. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 12:03 PM (#4687765)
I agree with B99 being awesome, even in the first season they already had an exceptional ensemble atmosphere. And I will never not love Andre Brougher.

It's basically the Journey of sitcoms -- competently crafted, with a lead/Fonzie-type breakout character who's a one note/one trick pony, but pretty good at hitting that one note regularly and well.


Would you say that you have more than a feeling?

   83. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 17, 2014 at 12:12 PM (#4687774)
81: Okay - thanks. I never saw The Mentalist, was wondering if I'd totally misread the ads.
   84. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 12:13 PM (#4687777)
(pantheon being Seinfeld, MASH, Cosby Show, Cheers).


I think there are a few more like the Mary Tyler Moore show, with WKRP and Barney Miller depending on your mood (I would put KRP there, and BM a step down).


I'd put them on the next tier. I think there is near universal consensus on my first four. MtM, WKRP, and Barney Miller are beloved by many, but I don't think they have universal appeal (MTM being the closest). They'd be in the next level with Frasier, Taxi, The Bob Newhart Show, Newhart, All in the Family, Friends, Murphy Brown, 30 Rock, The Larry Sanders Show, Curb Your Enthusiasm and yes Modern Family.

I don't include the Simpsons because its not really a traditional sitcom, and I don't include I Love Lucy or the Honeymooners because that's like comparing dead ball era guys with expansion era guys.
   85. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: April 17, 2014 at 12:25 PM (#4687801)
(S)he's usually "watching" that passively while doing something else, which seems to be how a lot of girls I know digest their TV. But that's a whole other topic.

Amazing GF is obsessed with the TV show Supernatural, and will put a DVD in while she works. I'm glad, sort of, she's not the only one. Though she will watch/not-watch the same episode over and over sometimes, which still seems weird to me.

She does this with movies, also: Tootsie, Psycho, Troll Hunter (Norwegian), Amadeus...
   86. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 17, 2014 at 12:27 PM (#4687803)
Have any of you read Sitcom by Paul Austerlitz? It had its faults, but I liked it.
   87. Monty Posted: April 17, 2014 at 12:38 PM (#4687819)
"Monk" I guess was the trend-setter in the "I don't have time for emotions, just give me facts" trope, with "Elementary" (Sherlock), "CSI" (Grissom), and "Sherlock" carrying the ball since then.


The Jonny Lee Miller version of Sherlock Holmes has a bit of emotion, since his being a recovering drug addict is something the show returns to a lot.

I think it's weird that all modern Sherlocks (I'm including Robert Downey, Jr. but not Jeremy Brett) are somewhere from "extremely antisocial" to "literally a sociopath." The Arthur Conan Doyle version of the character was rude, but I think it's being very exaggerated these days.
   88. Greg K Posted: April 17, 2014 at 12:41 PM (#4687822)
I think it's weird that all modern Sherlocks (I'm including Robert Downey, Jr. but not Jeremy Brett) are somewhere from "extremely antisocial" to "literally a sociopath." The Arthur Conan Doyle version of the character was rude, but I think it's being very exaggerated these days.

It obviously all stems from Data's (the ultimate sociopath) portrayal of Sherlock Holmes in Star Trek.
   89. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 12:52 PM (#4687836)

I will second the nomination for Psych - the first few seasons were great, and made that much more enjoyable by the fact that you can tell how much fun everyone was having on set. James Roday and Dule Hill's on-screen chemistry is fantastic. Ironically, Roday's romantic chemistry on screen with Maggie Lawson was never that great, even though they are dating in real life.

I never really enjoyed Big Bang Theory. Perhaps because I'm friends with a lot of guys like that and the show doesn't really ring true to me.

Parks and Recreation - you have to get past the first season to appreciate it. The first season basically tried to be like the Office, with Leslie Knope as the female version of Michael Scott -- incompetent, offensive, socially awkward and tone deaf. While I liked the Office, my biggest problem with the show was that Michael's character was entirely implausible and unsympathetic -- but the show had other characters who were and who had real heart. Parks and Rec didn't, so thankfully they pivoted and actually made Leslie a good, competent person, while still being socially awkward and naive enough to be funny.
   90. Greg K Posted: April 17, 2014 at 12:58 PM (#4687842)
Parks and Recreation - you have to get past the first season to appreciate it. The first season basically tried to be like the Office, with Leslie Knope as the female version of Michael Scott -- incompetent, offensive, socially awkward and tone deaf.

Ironically The Office had the same problem. Both had abbreviated 6-episode first seasons where the show struggled to find its own voice and perhaps leaned too hard on its predecessor (US Office for Parks and Rec and UK Office for US Office). All in all I think the first season of The Office is better, but for both shows I think season 2-3 are great, great television.
   91. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 01:02 PM (#4687851)
One thing that really helped Parks & Rec reach full bloom was getting rid of that Mark Brendanawicz character and bringing in Adam Scott and Rob Lowe, both of whom were fantastic from day one. Rob Lowe especially helped kick season three up to the top of my favorite recent sitcom seasons.

I want to second (third? fourth?) Psych's early years. It was a very fun, very funny mostly comedy. Best interracial bromance since Scrubs, too. Speaking of Scrubs, there was a solid 3-4 LAR (laughs above replacement) sitcom for a good chunk of it's run. Never a superstar, but very good when it was good. That it was also the most accurate of medical shows out there was also something I enjoyed. Or at least, I read that it was as compared to shows like ER and House. Damnit Jim, I'm a lawyer not a doctor!

   92. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 01:05 PM (#4687855)
I watch BBT regularly. I get why some don't like it, but I find it pretty funny. It's not an upper-echelon comedy but it definitely gets the job done for me. Occasionally it goes off the rails a bit (usually when it starts over-doing the caricatures, or almost anything involving Amy), but by and large it's solid.

Brooklyn Nine-Nine is pretty funny, but it suffers from a mix of great performers and terrible performers. I like Samberg in it (and I did not think I would), and I can't get enough of Braugher, Crews, or Peretti. I'd like a show with just those four, please. Samberg's partner (Melissa Fumero) is just awful, and Stephanie Beatriz is an over-the-top one-note character. The rest aren't even worth the time to look them up on IMDB. Having said all that, I love the show; the good WAY outweighs the bad. Seriously, if nothing else, Braugher makes anything watchable, and he's hilarious in this.

I like the MacFarlane comedies, so I gave Dads a try. Christ on a cracker, that was awful. SO awful. Has it been canceled yet? If it hasn't...I mean, what the ####, FOX?

In terms of background noise, my wife and I tend to use things like CBS procedurals, Law & Order, etc. Some of them are well-written and others not so much, but they're vaguely entertaining...yet not so much that I feel compelled to pay attention while I'm working.
   93. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 17, 2014 at 01:09 PM (#4687859)
(pantheon being Seinfeld, MASH, Cosby Show, Cheers)
I think there is near universal consensus on my first four.


Not really. By these lists, The Cosby Show is clearly behind All in the Family, Mary Tyler Moore, Dick Van Dyke and Frasier, as well as the shows you eliminated (Simpsons, I Love Lucy), and in a mix with many others:

The Writers Guild (best written, in order): Seinfeld, All in the Family, MASH, Mary Tyler Moore, Cheers, Simpsons, I Love Lucy, Dick Van Dyke, Arrested Development, Taxi, Larry Sanders, 30 Rock, Frasier, Friends, Cosby

TV Guide (in order): Seinfeld, I Love Lucy, All in the Family, Mary Tyler Moore, MASH, Simpsons, Cheers, Honeymooners, Andy Griffith, Dick Van Dyke Show, Cosby

The Emmys (by wins for Best Comedy): Frasier (5), All in the Family (4); Cheers (4); Dick Van Dyke Show (4); Modern Family (4); 30 Rock (3); Mary Tyler Moore Show (3); The Phil Silvers Show (3); Taxi (3)

The Emmys (by nominations for Best Comedy): MASH (11), Cheers (11); All in the Family (9); Frasier (8); 30 Rock (7); Barney Miller (7); Curb Your Enthusiasm (7); Everybody Loves Raymond (7); Mary Tyler Moore (7); Seinfeld (7)

(Emmy totals are affected by context; the Dick Van Dyke Show had to beat the Beverly Hillbillies, Bewiitched and McHale's Navy. Seinfeld won once, while competing with Cheers, Larry Sanders, Frasier and Friends. The Cosby Show was nominated 3 times, winning once.)

Vulture (1982-present, in order, bracket elimination style): Simpsons, Cheers, Seinfeld/Roseanne (if you want to disqualify The Simpsons, their next two were Sex in the City and Community)

IGN ("25 funniest TV shows" in order): Arrested Development, Simpsons, Seinfeld, South Park, The Office (UK), All in the Family, Fawlty Towers (UK), Friends, Cheers, Curb Your Enthusiasm, I Love Lucy, Larry Sanders, 30 Rock, Frasier, Futurama, Taxi, Family Guy, Spaced (UK)... no MASH or Cosby)

You do NOT want to look at the rankings on IMDB.
   94. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4687863)
I want to second (third? fourth?) Psych's early years. It was a very fun, very funny mostly comedy. Best interracial bromance since Scrubs, too. Speaking of Scrubs, there was a solid 3-4 LAR (laughs above replacement) sitcom for a good chunk of it's run. Never a superstar, but very good when it was good. That it was also the most accurate of medical shows out there was also something I enjoyed. Or at least, I read that it was as compared to shows like ER and House. Damnit Jim, I'm a lawyer not a doctor!


Psych was amazing TV. Agree 100% with everything everyone's said about it. Not only were Roday and Hill incredible together, but the supporting cast was mostly top-notch too. Heck, even the villains were usually good, and Cary Elwes was off-the-charts awesome.

I never really enjoyed Scrubs, and this is 100% down to Zach Braff. I found him utterly unfunny, and every time he appears onscreen I cringe. Almost everyone else was funny, and John C. McGinley was extra-funny, but Braff was horrible.
   95. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 17, 2014 at 01:15 PM (#4687866)
Agree with the last several posts.

I think there is near universal consensus on my first four.
That they're all candidates - sure - but I don't think that consensus exists that they are the top four.

Here's a list grabbed from the infotubes (though not a very good one, IMO):
50. Reno 911!
49. The Larry Sanders Show
48. Police Squad!
47. Wings
46. How I Met Your Mother
45. NewsRadio
44. That ’70s Show
43. Laverne & Shirley
42. Everybody Loves Raymond
41. WKRP in Cincinnati
40. South Park
39. I Love Lucy
38. Spin City
37. Martin
36. It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia
35. Happy Days
34. New Girl
33. The League
32. Soap
31. Parks & Recreation
30. The Honeymooners
29. Sanford and Son
28. Diff’rent Strokes
27. Perfect Strangers
26. The Wonder Years
25. 30 Rock
24. Community
23. Roseanne
22. Growing Pains
21. Taxi
20. The Fresh Prince of Bel Air
19. Family Guy
18. Modern Family
17. The Jeffersons
16. All in the Family
15. The Office (U.S.)
14. M*A*S*H
13. The Simpsons
12. Scrubs
11. Night Court
10. Family Ties
9. Three’s Company
8. Curb Your Enthusiasm
7. The Golden Girls
6. Married with Children
5. Seinfeld
4. Arrested Development
3. Friends
2. The Cosby Show
1. Cheers
   96. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4687869)
14. M*A*S*H
...
9. Three’s Company


What. The. ####.
   97. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 17, 2014 at 01:20 PM (#4687873)
You noticed that too, huh? :)
   98. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 17, 2014 at 01:24 PM (#4687878)
Brooklyn Nine-Nine is pretty funny, but it suffers from a mix of great performers and terrible performers. I like Samberg in it (and I did not think I would), and I can't get enough of Braugher, Crews, or Peretti. I'd like a show with just those four, please. Samberg's partner (Melissa Fumero) is just awful, and Stephanie Beatriz is an over-the-top one-note character. The rest aren't even worth the time to look them up on IMDB. Having said all that, I love the show; the good WAY outweighs the bad. Seriously, if nothing else, Braugher makes anything watchable, and he's hilarious in this.


I don't disagree with you, although I think Joe Truglio is pretty funny. Its hard to develop secondary characters too much in one season, so I'm willing to let the show breathe a bit. Really, the only character we've really gotten to know is Chief Holt. Even Peralta, who is ostensibly the star of the show, is pretty much a vessel for jokes, not a fully-fleshed out character.
   99. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 17, 2014 at 01:25 PM (#4687881)
#95-96-97:
How'd you two manage to get past "Laverne & Shirley" over "Larry Sanders," "Martin" beating "I Love Lucy," "Diff'rent Strokes" surpassing "The Honeymooners," and "Family Guy" topping "Roseanne"?
   100. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 17, 2014 at 01:32 PM (#4687888)
Well Gonfalon, we agree with all of that, of course...

**

I think Fumero is doing a solid job, my issue is with how they write her character - and Lo Truglio did great, though I'd prefer that they make him a bit less ridiculous.
Braugher and Crews are tremendous.
I think they've turned the corner with Peralta over the last few eps.
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