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Monday, July 07, 2014

Gleeman: Rays sign No. 1 rated international prospect Adrian Rondon for $3 million on his 16th birthday

I think I got a turtleneck for my 16th birthday.

Today is the first day Adrian Rondon is eligible to sign because it’s his 16th birthday and the Rays moved quickly to add the right-handed-hitting shortstop from the Dominican Republic.

Tampa Bay must believe that Rondon is destined for stardom because Ben Badler of Baseball America reports that by going so far beyond their designated spending limits the Rays will be forced to pay a 100 percent tax on all international spending above $2 million and won’t be allowed to sign any prospects for more than $300,000 for a while.

JE (Jason) Posted: July 07, 2014 at 11:08 AM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: July 07, 2014 at 01:54 PM (#4745307)
Today is the first day Adrian Rondon is eligible to sign because it’s his 16th birthday

Well...as far as we know. This *IS* the Dominican after all. He could turn out to be a young 22.
   2. Swedish Chef Posted: July 07, 2014 at 02:33 PM (#4745338)
He could turn out to be a young 22.

Not as usual as the other way, but he could be 12.
   3. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 07, 2014 at 03:19 PM (#4745381)
A rich, large-market team swooping in and grabbing the talent. Good thing we don't let American kids be treated this way!
   4. Zach Posted: July 07, 2014 at 03:24 PM (#4745385)
Julio Franco's whereabouts could not be verified as of press time.
   5. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: July 07, 2014 at 03:32 PM (#4745396)
Is Smiley Gonzalez still smilin??
   6. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: July 07, 2014 at 03:56 PM (#4745432)
I was trying to think of the best-case scenario for this bold signing. Maybe Xander Bogaerts? Bogaerts is in a tough stretch, but is still generally considered one of the best young prospects/newcomers in the sport. He doesn't turn 22 until October.

He was signed just before his 17th birthday in 2009, for a $510K bonus. He bolted through the minor-league system, generally has been the first or second-youngest player in every league he's been in. You cannot get a 16-year-old through the system faster than this, pretty much...and it took four years from signing to MLB debut.

$3m is a lot of money, with a lot of consequences to the next few years of international signing, for a guy who turned 16 this weekend...
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 07, 2014 at 04:01 PM (#4745440)
I don't see how small market can hope to compete with teams like the Rays.
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 07, 2014 at 04:23 PM (#4745480)
Why are teams allowed to sign international players at 16, when the limit is 18 for the US and Canada?

Shouldn't it be uniform?
   9. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: July 07, 2014 at 04:25 PM (#4745486)
Shouldn't it be uniform?


Why aren't these guys subject to the draft?

Same answer I suppose.
   10. billyshears Posted: July 07, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4745495)
Memory fails me - who was the last big ticket (top 5 bonus in their class) Latin American signing to become a star? Of course, plenty of Latin American signings do become stars, but it seems that they typically come from the second/third level of the class (as would make sense - there are a lot more of those guys).
   11. DL from MN Posted: July 07, 2014 at 04:40 PM (#4745505)
Miguel Sano was a big bonus signing and he's still headed for stardom.
   12. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 07, 2014 at 04:48 PM (#4745514)
31 Largest Latin American Signing Bonuses Of All Time (non-Cuban division) as of 2009. Don't worry, it's not a slideshow.

Miguel Cabrera, Jurickson Profar, some players who could still make it because they were signed at age 16 in 2008 or 2009 (Sano), and a bunch of no-names and disappointments.
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 07, 2014 at 04:50 PM (#4745521)
Why aren't these guys subject to the draft?

Yeah, they should fix that too.
   14. billyshears Posted: July 07, 2014 at 05:11 PM (#4745541)
#12 - Thanks. Interesting list.
   15. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 07, 2014 at 05:32 PM (#4745562)
Why aren't these guys subject to the draft?

Might be some concerns that foreign jurisdictions would note the anti-trust implications of such a move, although I claim no expertise in Dominican anti-trust law. Could be more the case that MLB never offered the Players Union enough of a bribe for them to be all that interested in selling out the foreign amateur talent.
   16. valuearbitrageur Posted: July 07, 2014 at 05:38 PM (#4745566)
Miguel Cabrera, Jurickson Profar, some players who could still make it because they were signed at age 16 in 2008 or 2009 (Sano), and a bunch of no-names and disappointments.


Alvaro Aristy wasn't a disappointment, he was a surprise!
   17. valuearbitrageur Posted: July 07, 2014 at 05:47 PM (#4745574)
I'm wondering about Sunk Cost syndrome with these guys. Why do the Giants still keep Rafael Rodriguez puttering away at A ball? A no power left fielder who can't get on base, with a .600 OPS his last 4 years all in A ball. Instead of releasing him, are the Giants trying to punish him for taking $2.5M as a signing bonus?
   18. Mike Emeigh Posted: July 07, 2014 at 07:10 PM (#4745626)
Everyone expects that there will be an international draft soon - the current semi-slotting system was widely considered to be part of the runup to one. What we have now is better than what we had before - the buscones have been beaten back a bit, at the price of having US-based agents enter the market, and the money is being spread out more.

The Yankees are the true big spenders this year - with the bonuses and the penalties they are going to pay they're going to spend upwards of $25 million, maybe upwards of $30 million. It's weird because no one thought there was anything like Cabrera or Profar in this year's crop.

This is a huge risk/reward kind of thing, as the list that Crispix provides in #12 shows. You never know how *any* of these kids are going to develop; it's like drafting high school freshmen. Joel Guzman is probably a classic example; he's not even 30 yet (not till November), but he hasn't played a major league game in seven years and he almost literally peaked at age 20. The Pirates, on the other hand, picked up guys like Starling Marte, Gregory Polanco, Luis Heredia, and Alen Hanson for a relative song, and they have two good young outfielders plus a quality pitching and infield prospect, all for about $2 million or so less than what Tampa will be paying Rondon.

-- MWE
   19. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 07, 2014 at 07:17 PM (#4745630)
This is a huge risk/reward kind of thing, as the list that Crispix provides in #12 shows. You never know how *any* of these kids are going to develop; it's like drafting high school freshmen. Joel Guzman is probably a classic example; he's not even 30 yet (not till November), but he hasn't played a major league game in seven years and he almost literally peaked at age 20. The Pirates, on the other hand, picked up guys like Starling Marte, Gregory Polanco, Luis Heredia, and Alen Hanson for a relative song, and they have two good young outfielders plus a quality pitching and infield prospect, all for about $2 million or so less than what Tampa will be paying Rondon.

Seems like this is an area where "quality has a quantity all its own".

Would you be better off getting 15 $200K guys y.o.'s than 1 $3M 16 y.o.
   20. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: July 07, 2014 at 07:23 PM (#4745636)
If Bruce Rondon makes it back to the Majors, gets traded to the Rays, lasts a loooong time there and faces the Nationals in an interleague match-up, Rondon can force Rendon to groundout to Rondon.

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