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Goldstein: Sony’s Amy Pascal speaks out about ‘Moneyball’

Zaillian’s script was anchored by on-screen monologues by Bill James, the oddball guru of modern-day baseball statistics (who today works in the Boston Red Sox front office). James functioned as a Greek chorus for the film, offering wry, Yoda-like explanations about the complexity of the game.

Zaillian’s deft renditions of James’ maxims were funny and always to the point, allowing the audience the opportunity to see inside the game. In one monologue, James says: “If you score three runs and the other team scores four, you can be inspired as all hell but you still lost. The numbers represent the ineluctable sum of victories and defeats, and that cannot be made one iota larger or smaller than it is by PR campaigns, personal animosities or any of the greater and lesser forms of B.S.” But in Soderbergh’s draft, the James material had all vanished, presumably to be replaced by interviews with Beane’s real-life associates.

...Sony would also have to find a new director who is not only a good fit for the material but would pass muster with Pitt, who has director approval on his films. To find a director with enough stature or buzz to attract Pitt won’t be easy. The most likely options would be for the studio to go in more of a comic direction—possibilities being Jay Roach or Jason Reitman—or toward a more dramatic choice, like Gary Ross or even George Clooney, who is putting the finishing touches on a two-year production deal with the studio. (My own pick would be someone with a sharp, subversive edge, like Pete Berg.)

Pascal insists there’s no bad blood between her and Soderbergh, saying the two plan to meet in the coming days to discuss other possible projects. In the meanwhile, she remains an ardent believer in the film. “We love this movie, we always have and we still want to make it. It’s a completely innovative way to tell a baseball story. It’s about wanting to believe in magic, which is what baseball is all about.”

Thanks to Matt Welch.

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   1. villageidiom Posted: July 01, 2009 at 05:54 PM (#3239107)
So Bill James = cowbell?
   2. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: July 01, 2009 at 05:57 PM (#3239113)
I like the sounds of that original one, though maybe they should tone down the Matrix 2/The Architect language of the Bill Jamerrator.
   3. tribefan Posted: July 01, 2009 at 06:00 PM (#3239119)
It’s about wanting to believe in magic, which is what baseball is all about
No it's not, it's about chicks digging the long ball.
   4. The Essex Snead Posted: July 01, 2009 at 06:11 PM (#3239140)
(My own pick would be someone with a sharp, subversive edge, like Pete Berg.)

What in the holy heck is subversive about Hancock and The Kingdom?
   5. Esoteric Posted: July 01, 2009 at 06:43 PM (#3239223)
Given how terrible The Girlfriend Experience was, I'd say that the studio's fears that Soderbergh would turn Moneyball into an unwatchable pseudo-documentary were well-placed.
   6. Raleigh Horn Posted: July 01, 2009 at 07:06 PM (#3239297)
I've been reading the copy of the screenplay floating around the internets...it's full of baseball arcana and so chock full of stats and names that only diehards will figure out what's going on. In other words, it was surprisingly awesome.

Hopefully, it gets made before it turns into Major League 2010: Revenge of the Beaner!
   7. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 01, 2009 at 07:11 PM (#3239310)
Maybe we should rent someone's basement in Brooklyn and do a reading of the script off off off Broadway.
   8. Dr Love Posted: July 01, 2009 at 07:12 PM (#3239312)
What in the holy heck is subversive about Hancock and The Kingdom?


I wouldn't call him or it subversive, but Friday Night Lights was great.
   9. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: July 01, 2009 at 07:15 PM (#3239324)
Maybe we should rent someone's basement in Brooklyn and do a reading of the script off off off Broadway.

That's just meta enough for GGC to take a lead role.
   10. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: July 01, 2009 at 07:16 PM (#3239329)
This sounds like a terrible movie begging to be a mediocre documentary.
   11. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: July 01, 2009 at 07:16 PM (#3239330)
That's just meta enough for GGC to take a lead role.
He'd have to talk about it for a while first.
   12. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 01, 2009 at 07:40 PM (#3239376)
Using action figures to play the parts sounds like a good use of time. Buy some G.I. Joes and throw on a Brian Tyler movie score, and you've got a movie.
   13. The Good Face Posted: July 01, 2009 at 07:43 PM (#3239386)
Billy Beane never should have written this screenplay.
   14. Sean Forman Posted: July 01, 2009 at 08:08 PM (#3239466)
And so ends my one shot to get into IMDB. The head of video and computer graphics for the movie was talking to me about producing the spreadsheets for Podesta to be referring to throughout the movie. I was pretty fired up, but it isn't looking like it is going to happen now.
   15. Repoz Posted: July 01, 2009 at 08:14 PM (#3239488)
And so ends my one shot to get into IMDB

Not so fast, Sean. I've heard rumblings about someone turning the BPro/Primer lawsuit into a script!
   16. Still Waiting on Pork Chops (John R.) Posted: July 01, 2009 at 08:15 PM (#3239494)
C'mon guys....Sean wants to make it to IMDB. For the awesomeness that is BBRef, SOMEONE here has to be able to make it happen. Right? Right???
   17. billyshears Posted: July 01, 2009 at 08:33 PM (#3239546)
The head of video and computer graphics for the movie was talking to me about producing the spreadsheets for Podesta to be referring to throughout the movie.


For a brief moment I was wondering why the hell John Podesta would be in the Moneyball movie and what he would be doing with spreadsheets.
   18. Sean Forman Posted: July 01, 2009 at 08:47 PM (#3239585)
Podesta


Oops, Depodesta.
   19. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 01, 2009 at 10:14 PM (#3239752)
####, Shooty, that's actually kind of a good idea.
   20. RobertMachemer Posted: July 01, 2009 at 10:19 PM (#3239755)
It's a lot harder to get on IMDB than it ought to be. You can't just shoot your own independent movie and get on IMDB for it -- as far as I can remember (feel free to write IMDB and correct me if I'm misremembering), the movie more or less has to appear in a "recognized" festival or have a distribution deal in place (though it's possible that the works of major studios don't require as much -- I'm less familiar in that case), and even then it may take a while for the folks running IMDB to check and double-check that you're not just trying to submit a bogus credit.

But, Sean, if you've got a few thousand dollars you wanna give me, I'll be happy to shoot a movie, enter it in a festival, and give you some sort of credit.

Life of Sean; or Hey, I'm the Forman!

That's gold, that is. Gold! Waddya say?
   21. Lassus Posted: July 01, 2009 at 10:48 PM (#3239783)
Maybe we should rent someone's basement in Brooklyn and do a reading of the script off off off Broadway.

Sign me up! I'm not fat or ugly enough to be Youkilis, though.

I'd do this in a heartbeat. I mean, we might all get sued, but it would be almost worth it.
   22. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 01, 2009 at 11:03 PM (#3239791)
Sign me up! I'm not fat or ugly enough to be Youkilis, though.

I'd do this in a heartbeat. I mean, we might all get sued, but it would be almost worth it.


You know what, I've never acted before and I'd probably sound like Keanu Reeves trying to do Shakespeare, but I'm up for this on one condition--it gets livestreamed somehow on Primer.
   23. Lassus Posted: July 01, 2009 at 11:37 PM (#3239811)
I almost wonder if a radio-play/podcast drama wouldn't be better. Then again, one might not know who was whom.

Where can we find the arcana version of the script online, anyone?
   24. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: July 02, 2009 at 01:40 AM (#3239924)
In the day, anyone could put themselves on IMDB. I put some stuff I did for a class in high school on there. You can't do that anymore.

I have long been in the camp of "Moneyball is not a movie", but The Girlfriend Experience made me think Soderbergh could pull it off. The Zaillian script was okay; a bit too Hollywoodish. There was probably a third way between the Zaillian script and Soderbergh's rejected approach, one that kept the structure of Zaillian's adaptation while just taking out the erroneous Hollywood touches (the Hatteberg stuff, for instance).
   25. Jeff K. Posted: July 02, 2009 at 03:59 AM (#3239985)
Life of Sean; or Hey, I'm the Forman!

Any biopic of Sean has to be titled Forman Enter, 1 Man Leave.
   26. Jeff K. Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:02 AM (#3239988)
Link to the script. Unless that's not what was requested, in which case, meh.

I'll likely forget that I ever put that up, so it's basically a perma-link.
   27. J. Michael Neal Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:30 AM (#3240025)
I'd probably sound like Keanu Reeves trying to do Shakespeare


Hey, that movie was pretty good. Not because of Keanu Reeves, of course, but it was damned good.
   28. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:34 AM (#3240027)
I used to act.
   29. Obama Bomaye Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:44 AM (#3240030)
Forman, One Cup
   30. Bitter Calculus Instructor Posted: July 02, 2009 at 06:48 AM (#3240041)
I read the script that was released onto the internets, which was supposed to be the one that they'd film before a new script was brought last minute and the movie was cancelled. It pretty much took out the whole part about the draft (pretty much just reduced it to a mention of Swisher, Brown and the board of 20 names), although in retrospect that chapter seems kinda silly (what with Fielder and Kazmir's performances). Also, there was no mention of Ray Durham anywhere. Overall a pretty good script though.
   31. Replacement-Level Primate Posted: July 02, 2009 at 08:35 AM (#3240048)
I really liked the script and could picture it being a good movie as I read it, but I can't think of any reason (besides Brad Pitt) my mom or sister would ever want to see it.
   32. Jeff K. Posted: July 02, 2009 at 10:21 AM (#3240062)
Rich Man, Forman

I really liked the script and could picture it being a good movie as I read it, but I can't think of any reason (besides Brad Pitt) my mom or sister would ever want to see it.

Screw your mom and sister (no offense to your mom and sister)! Every movie is slanted towards every audience so every freaking one turns out 50% the same. The original concept behind Jerry Maguire, I remember the SI article long before the movie came out, would have been awesome. JM's a bad example here because the whole Zellweger side plot really did bring the chicks out, but still. It was completely unnecessary, until it made itself necessary. Once they had to add that to the script, the whole thing turned into a redemption story, and of course the redeemed must have his redemption validated by someone of the opposite sex, blah blah blah.

A straight-forward no-######## balls to the wall movie about a hardnosed sports agent who gets screwed over and dumped by his agency for showing one moment's weakness raging against that unfairness while recognizing that one moment is one moment too many and rededicating his life/career to destroying the former agency, that's a movie, and it doesn't need a love story like every single other movie.
   33. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: July 02, 2009 at 11:51 AM (#3240072)
Maybe we should rent someone's basement in Brooklyn and do a reading of the script off off off Broadway.

Sign me up! I'm not fat or ugly enough to be Youkilis, though.

Me too. I don't look good in jeans.
   34. villageidiom Posted: July 02, 2009 at 12:16 PM (#3240078)
A straight-forward no-######## balls to the wall movie about a hardnosed sports agent who gets screwed over and dumped by his agency for showing one moment's weakness raging against that unfairness while recognizing that one moment is one moment too many and rededicating his life/career to destroying the former agency, that's a movie, and it doesn't need a love story like every single other movie.
You had me at balls.
   35. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 02, 2009 at 12:19 PM (#3240080)
It's early, but we vi has already won the internets. See you tomorrow everyone.
   36. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: July 02, 2009 at 12:38 PM (#3240085)
In one monologue, James says: “If you score three runs and the other team scores four, you can be inspired as all hell but you still lost. The numbers represent the ineluctable sum of victories and defeats, and that cannot be made one iota larger or smaller than it is by PR campaigns, personal animosities or any of the greater and lesser forms of B.S.”


Yes, this certainly would have been a movie to appeal to Hollywood's target audience.
   37. Jeff K. Posted: July 02, 2009 at 12:41 PM (#3240088)
To be clear, vi is speaking idiomatically (hence the name) and in fact my hands nor any part of my body or being, corporeal or otherwise, is anywhere near his junk.
   38. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 02, 2009 at 12:46 PM (#3240091)
To be clear, vi is speaking idiomatically (hence the name) and in fact my hands nor any part of my body or being, corporeal or otherwise, is anywhere near his junk.

Uh huh. I completely believe you, 100%.
   39. Jeff K. Posted: July 02, 2009 at 12:50 PM (#3240093)
Quiet, Ugly McStupid.
   40. Greg Franklin Posted: July 02, 2009 at 02:20 PM (#3240175)
Some anonymice add more info to the red-light decision:

NY Times: Money Worries Kill A-List Film at Last Minute

Two weeks ago, a mismatch in personal style and expectations collided. Mr. Soderbergh, a week before filming was to begin, delivered his own revision of the script.

One reason was to win the approval of Major League Baseball, which was not happy with some factual liberties in Mr. Zaillian’s version. Such approval is crucial in a baseball film that intends to use protected trademarks.

“Typically, on a film like this, we look at it for historical accuracy,” said Matthew Bourne, a vice president of Major League Baseball for public relations. “We’ve been in touch with Soderbergh and Sony, and they’ve been receptive to our requests.” [...]

As of Tuesday, “Moneyball” was back in development, with Sony executives still hoping at some point to work with Mr. Pitt and to find a director more interested in Mr. Zaillian’s version.
   41. The Essex Snead Posted: July 02, 2009 at 02:23 PM (#3240182)
As of Tuesday, “Moneyball” was back in development, with Sony executives still hoping at some point to work with Mr. Pitt and to find a director more interested in Mr. Zaillian’s version.

Somewhere in Hollywood, Michael Bay's iPhone is ringing.
   42. JuanGone..except1game Posted: July 02, 2009 at 02:28 PM (#3240193)
Somewhere in Hollywood, Michael Bay's iPhone is ringing while being fed grapes from his manservant.
   43. The Essex Snead Posted: July 02, 2009 at 02:38 PM (#3240213)
Honestly, I don't know if I'd be over the moon or under my seat if Bay shot a scene w/ the camera doing a luxurious decadent sun-flared 360 around an awestruck DePodesta (holding his laptop, of course) as he watched Youkilis wiggle his butt.
   44. The Essex Snead Posted: July 02, 2009 at 02:39 PM (#3240217)
With the butt-wiggle shot in Matrix-y slo-mo, of course.
   45. Paul The Paranoid Android Posted: July 02, 2009 at 02:40 PM (#3240218)
Somewhere in Hollywood, Michael Bay's iPhone is ringing while being fed grapes from his manservant while something explodes in the background.
   46. Dr Love Posted: July 02, 2009 at 02:54 PM (#3240238)
I'm on IMBD for a cable movie I worked on. I'm not proud of it though.
   47. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: July 02, 2009 at 03:10 PM (#3240261)
I'm on IMBD for a cable movie I worked on. I'm not proud of it though.


"Video Voyeur: The Susan Wilson Story" on the Lifetime network?
   48. Benji Gil Gamesh is not being paid to be that guy Posted: July 02, 2009 at 03:31 PM (#3240295)
Michael Bay's iPhone is ringing while being fed grapes from his manservant

You have to feed the iPhone now, too? Christ, being stuck with AT&T;is already limiting its reach.
   49. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:24 PM (#3240360)
Could we seriously have enough people on board to seriously execute Shooty's idea? I'd love to participate/attend this if so.
   50. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:30 PM (#3240364)
Could we seriously have enough people on board to seriously execute Shooty's idea? I'd love to participate/attend this if so.

It could be the greatest thing in the history of the internets. How many people would we need?
   51. The District Attorney Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:33 PM (#3240367)
Yeah, but would anyone be plausible as any character other than DePo?...
   52. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:35 PM (#3240371)
Yeah, but would anyone be plausible as any character other than DePo?...

I bet we have a lot of fat scouts, too. The audience will have to use their imaginations.
   53. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:38 PM (#3240374)
Not a whole lot, I don't think, if we're economical about our casting and have people do multiple parts. As for a number. 10? 12?
   54. villageidiom Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:39 PM (#3240377)
If two women could play Matt Damon and Ben Affleck* off-Broadway, we can do anything.

* Well, Damon. Affleck's not a stretch.
   55. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:40 PM (#3240378)
Yeah, I'm not worried about people looking like other people. I seem to remember Mindy Kaling doing a show about Matt Damon and Ben Affleck some years ago, playing one or the other. We can just put an Indians hat on a dude and call him Mark Shapiro.
   56. phredbird Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:40 PM (#3240379)
i'm in. i could play the chair that beane throws across the room.
   57. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:41 PM (#3240383)
Holy crap, do I owe villageidiom a coke.
   58. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:41 PM (#3240384)
Not a whole lot, I don't think, if we're economical about our casting and have people do multiple parts. As for a number. 10? 12?

We should be able to do that. If I promise a case of beer, Primates will be lining up out the door.
   59. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:46 PM (#3240390)
Casting is the easy part, I think. But whose basement do we hold it in? Or do we do Michael Lewis in the Park?
   60. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 02, 2009 at 04:51 PM (#3240396)
Casting is the easy part, I think. But whose basement do we hold it in? Or do we do Michael Lewis in the Park?

I might lose my nerve in a public space. If there's enough other guys to do it in the park, I'll be glad to direct or gaff or grip or bestboy or something.

But really, this thing is so absurd, it's impossible for us not to do this, right? And we'd have to talk Backlasher into flying to town to play DePo or Scott Hatteberg.
   61. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:00 PM (#3240407)
I'd be having too much fun to lose my nerve. Maybe a beer or two would help you. Or you can just play one or two of the small parts, like the waitress at the Outback or somebody.

And yeah, the more I think about it, the more I agree we almost have to do this. Failed Hollywood script + intense internet baseball fan community + Brooklyn is exactly the kind of ridiculous thing that would get us play in Time Out New York.

I want Harveys as Bill James.
   62. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:01 PM (#3240409)
Maybe we should rent someone's basement in Brooklyn and do a reading of the script off off off Broadway.

That's just meta enough for GGC to take a lead role.


My sister once dated a guy who was from Arkansas and an Evel Knievel fan. He wrote a musical about Knievel and she wrote the music. I saw a reading under similar circumstances as this, but it was on the Lower East Side somewhere near NYU. I think my sis was channeling Ray Manzarek because most of the tunes had Doors-ish melodies.
   63. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:03 PM (#3240415)
And yeah, the more I think about it, the more I agree we almost have to do this. Failed Hollywood script + intense internet baseball fan community + Brooklyn is exactly the kind of ridiculous thing that would get us play in Time Out New York.

I want Harveys as Bill James.


Naw, we'll just write in a character that will randomly yell at people to get off his lawn. OK, what the hell. I'm in. You, Lassus and I. We're getting there. We'd need some geek to run the recording, webcasting or whatever. Wherever will we find such a capable geek?
   64. Nasty Nate Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:07 PM (#3240419)
does Chad Bradford Wannabe wanna be Chad Bradford?
   65. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:08 PM (#3240421)
does Chad Bradford Wannabe wanna be Chad Bradford?

That would be appropriate.

I feel like when I was 8 and my friend and I were going to make a giant fort out of discarded Christmas trees complete with a pulley system for moving treasure up and down and a secret underground basement where there would be secret tunnels connecting our houses.
   66. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:19 PM (#3240443)
Wherever will we find such a capable geek?

We can create another thread or post in the Lounge. Or we worry about recording/webcasting later once we get the ball rolling a little. We can always craigslist it, I suppose, but I'd like to see how many people we get from here before we go down that road. Right now, we just need bodies.
   67. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:21 PM (#3240445)
We can create another thread or post in the Lounge. Or we worry about recording/webcasting later once we get the ball rolling a little. We can always craigslist it, I suppose, but I'd like to see how many people we get from here before we go down that road. Right now, we just need bodies.

So I guess we just post a subject in the lounge and see what happens? And by "we" I mean, of course, "you".
   68. Randy Jones Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:35 PM (#3240461)
If I promise a case of beer, Primates will be lining up out the door.

Did someone say beer? I'm in.
   69. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 02, 2009 at 05:52 PM (#3240483)
And by "we" I mean, of course, "you".

Guh. Fine. Posted.
   70. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: July 02, 2009 at 07:15 PM (#3240648)
Somewhere in Hollywood, Michael Bay's iPhone is ringing.
Moneyball: Now With Explosions?
   71. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 02, 2009 at 07:23 PM (#3240665)
Moneyball: Now With Explosions?

Michael Bay should just direct the scene with the chair being thrown and let Soderbergh handle the rest.

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