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Monday, October 29, 2007

Gotham Baseball: Healey: Mets Should Opt For A-Rod

So Healey wants A-Rod on the Mets. Holy helldogs, I want every 45 by Minnesota Marv Blihovde & The Vanguards…but it ain’t happening.

Sign A-Rod watch him make the Mets must-see TV on ESPN (and make Steve Phillips look silly in the process, which should be incentive enough for any Mets fan to urge ownership to roll the dice) hit home runs and rewrite history.  Would be refreshing to see a Mets player do that for once.

Give him his tent, move Wright to first base, and pay him his gazillion dollars.  The Mets fan loves David Wright, but the baseball fans will come from miles around to see A-Rod set records. People who would never even look at a Mets jersey will shell out 200 bucks for a Mets black uni with a “3” on the back.  A-Rod might be a primadonna, but he respects Willie Randolph and will play for him and represent the organization well.

He just might get the Mets back to the postseasson in the process, their first-ever MVP and perhaps, allow the team to make enough money to woo Santana next offseason.

Repoz Posted: October 29, 2007 at 12:44 PM | 59 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Van Lingle Mungo Jerry Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:07 PM (#2598527)
Can he pitch? If so, Healey may be on to something here.
   2. Dan The Mediocre Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:11 PM (#2598529)
Sign A-Rod and trade Wright for a middle reliever or two.
   3. Benji Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:11 PM (#2598530)
Repoz, I want "Ask Me If I Care" by The Exceptions. And no to ARod. If 1B was open, yes.
   4. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:12 PM (#2598531)
When did "primadonna" become one word? Did I miss this?
   5. Win one for Agrippa (haplo53) Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:15 PM (#2598534)
Just what the Mets need - another guy who's gonna be too "bored" to actually win games.
   6. Amit Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:25 PM (#2598545)
I wish it made sense, but it just doesn't. The one thing we shouldn't screw with is the left side of the infield.

And Wright's too short for 1B.
   7. Craig Calcaterra Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:30 PM (#2598551)
I think an awful lot of what went into A-Rod's decision to opt out was a desire to get the heck out of New York, so this doesn't seem all that likley to me.

People forget that his little powow with Boras was spent in southern California. I bet Scotty took that time to sell the area to him. This, combined with LAA's need for a bat has me thinking that he signs with the Angels before November 15th.
   8. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:31 PM (#2598553)
I bet Scotty took that time to sell the area to him.

Boras picked the wrong time to tout the merits of SoCal.
   9. dr. bleachers Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:33 PM (#2598556)
Pay A-Rod eleventy trillion dollars, and then (presumably) have Wright play 1B and him play 3B? Awesome.
   10. Craig Calcaterra Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:35 PM (#2598558)
Boras picked the wrong time to tout the merits of SoCal.


Were the Newport Beach Mercedes dealerships and jewlery stores spared?

But, true, that's a good point.
   11. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2007 at 01:45 PM (#2598570)
Boras picked the wrong time to tout the merits of SoCal.

Actually, I think he timed those meetings pretty well. Rodriguez was in LA before the fires really got out of hand. Boras was in Miami last week.
   12. John DiFool2 Posted: October 29, 2007 at 02:08 PM (#2598595)
He just might get the Mets back to the postseasson in the process, their first-ever MVP and perhaps, allow the team to make enough money to woo Santana next offseason.


And maybe I'll get a horsie for my very own for Christmas!
   13. schuey Posted: October 29, 2007 at 02:16 PM (#2598604)
Never mind the Mercedes dealers and jewelry stores...what about the strip joints? One thing Rodriguez does not want is a clause allowing him to go home in the middle of road trips like Clemens had.
   14. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: October 29, 2007 at 02:39 PM (#2598637)
I can't see how it benefits the Mets to push Wright to 1B.
   15. heals9 Posted: October 29, 2007 at 02:40 PM (#2598642)
Delgado is easily tradeable, Wright is a sub-par defensive third baseman, and frankly, the next seven years of A-Rod are far more measurable than that same span of Reyes (if A-Rod really wants to play SS)

Signing A-Rod will be expensive, yes. But the alternative, bringing back the same club -- coaching staff and all -- that chocked away the NL East, a batter alternative?

The Mets don't have the talent (and can't spare what they do have) to deal for a top of the rotation starter. Going the scrap heap route did not work in 2007. Going out and getting the best player in baseball to build around makes far better sense, IMO.
   16. 1k5v3L Posted: October 29, 2007 at 02:51 PM (#2598667)
Delgado is easily tradeable


Yeah. And so am I.

Titles of columns you'll see written by Heavey this offseason:

"Mets should trade for Santana"
"Mets should acquire Haren"
"Mets should get Webb"
"Mets should clone Wright"
   17. Sam M. Posted: October 29, 2007 at 02:58 PM (#2598684)
Delgado is easily tradeable,

If you want to pay a huge chunk of the money he's owed for 2008, he is. Just add that to the total cost of signing A-Rod, I suppose. Delgado had a sub-par 2007, and is coming off a late-season broken hand. Teams will just be lining up to pay him $16M in 2008, I'm sure.

Wright is a sub-par defensive third baseman,

False. He makes too many errors, but he has excellent range and on the whole is an above-average (and improving) third baseman.

and frankly, the next seven years of A-Rod are far more measurable than that same span of Reyes (if A-Rod really wants to play SS)

So we're going to move Jose Reyes, a superlative defensive player, to make room for a guy it is doubtful can even play the position passably any longer? Makes sense to me!

Going the scrap heap route did not work in 2007. Going out and getting the best player in baseball to build around makes far better sense, IMO.

It would be a wonderful strategy . . . if the net effect wasn't adding a left fielder in 2008 and a first baseman thereafter. Because that's what it would mean: moving David Wright to the OF next year, and either Wright or A-Rod to 1B in 2009 and thereafter. And either player has a lot less value as a corner OFer or first baseman.

You take advantage of moments of opportunity, when the right opportunity arises. You don't panic and make the wrong move.
   18. base ball chick Posted: October 29, 2007 at 03:07 PM (#2598694)
what i like about sam m is that he gots him some BRAINZ he surely does

putting arod at third or short on the mets is so dumb i can't even believe how dumb. i mean the idea sound like it come from the mind of terry schiavo. if you gotta have his prima donnaness on the team, makes more sense to eat most of delgado's contract and trade him and put mr moneybags at first.

arod is 100% about the money and he a no argument about it mercenary and he'll go to whoever pays him the most money and he'll play first. or put him in left. or right. whatever

but i got a feeling he is going to LA not sure which team but i would bet there is even more bimbettes out there he ain't poked

i SERIOUSLY doubt that he is going to braves/white sox because they don't want to deal with boras. i am POSITIVE he's not coming to houston. da Rod done already done the hick(s)town thing
   19. dr. bleachers Posted: October 29, 2007 at 03:07 PM (#2598695)
And either player has a lot less value as a corner OFer or first baseman.

You're forgetting that A-Rod's value transcends these things. Or does he only make the Mets enough money to sign Santana if he plays 3B?
   20. Mom makes botox doctors furious Posted: October 29, 2007 at 03:10 PM (#2598698)
I was a free man in Texas, I felt unfettered and alive ... ?
   21. Tourist Nation Posted: October 29, 2007 at 03:12 PM (#2598701)
Am I the only one who thinks, maybe, just maybe, Boros took the one step too far on this one. It seems that he kind of went unnecessarily out of his way to show the power he has (interrupting the World Series?!?). Could it drive away a potential suitor?

I like Boros' track record as an agent better than mine as a blogger, but I get that "jump the shark" sense about this latest round. Of course, A-Rod will sign for at least 25 million, but I could see a little embarrassment and a touch of desperation with it.
   22. rfloh Posted: October 29, 2007 at 03:20 PM (#2598708)
Delgado is easily tradeable, Wright is a sub-par defensive third baseman, and frankly, the next seven years of A-Rod are far more measurable than that same span of Reyes (if A-Rod really wants to play SS)

BIS RZR had Wright at 24 runs above average defensively. STATS ZR had him at 1 run above average.

BIS RZR had Reyes at 12 runs above average defensively. STATS ZR had him at 13 runs above average.

BIS RZR had ARod at 9 runs below average defensively. STATS ZR had him at 2 runs above average.

You want ARod? Fine, pay him $350M to play 2b.
   23. base ball chick Posted: October 29, 2007 at 04:04 PM (#2598762)
and i am still surprised that boras decided to upstage the WS like that - makes both him and arod look bad. i thought that buddy boy didn't allow that - can they be fined?
   24. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: October 29, 2007 at 04:07 PM (#2598766)
...and make Steve Phillips look silly in the process, which should be incentive enough for any Mets fan to urge ownership to roll the dice


Phillips doesn't need A-Rod's help...

putting arod at third or short on the mets is so dumb i can't even believe how dumb. i mean the idea sound like it come from the mind of terry schiavo.


That's just wrong. Funny, but wrong...
   25. Karl from NY Posted: October 29, 2007 at 04:51 PM (#2598835)
The Mets are set at 3B, SS, and 1B, but there's still one more slot in the infield. Why couldn't A-Rod play 2B?

He doesn't lose positional value moving up the defensive spectrum. And A-Rod's offense would be gargantuan for a 2Bman, enough so to offset any defensive loss. I can't see Rodriguez being any worse playing 2B than Jeter is at SS, and the MFYs seem to survive that just fine.
   26. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: October 29, 2007 at 04:54 PM (#2598843)
There's no way you move Reyes or Wright. A-Rod's older and will be playing somewhere else anyway when the next cotnract he signs is up. If the Mets sign him, it'll be to play a corner outfield spot. They'll just accelerate the process. If they sign him, they will be drastically overpaying but he's a very special player.
   27. Toolsy McClutch Posted: October 29, 2007 at 04:55 PM (#2598844)
Thinking about this seriously, I don't think SB makes this move unless one of two things:
1) He is utterly convinced NY will make an adjusted offer before the 10 days are out
2) He has an in the hand offer from some team (likely)

If ARod signs for less or even comporable money, the NYY will go bonkers spinning this as 'ARod taking less'. After the DiceK fiasco, Scotty needs a big public win.
   28. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 29, 2007 at 04:56 PM (#2598845)
The Mets are set at 3B, SS, and 1B, but there's still one more slot in the infield. Why couldn't A-Rod play 2B?
I'm sure A-Rod could play 2B, but it would effectively minimize his defensive strength (good arm) while maximizing his weakness (decreasing lateral range) plus expose him to a whole bunch of take out slides and other things that will speed his decline. Seems like a bad idea.
   29. The Essex Snead Posted: October 29, 2007 at 04:58 PM (#2598849)
Someone please edit the attribution, because I want to perpetuate my pipe dreams of this being written by Fran Healy.
   30. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 29, 2007 at 05:04 PM (#2598861)
He doesn't lose positional value moving up the defensive spectrum. And A-Rod's offense would be gargantuan for a 2Bman, enough so to offset any defensive loss. I can't see Rodriguez being any worse playing 2B than Jeter is at SS, and the MFYs seem to survive that just fine.


Besides, he can top 42 homers easy.
   31. JPWF13 Posted: October 29, 2007 at 05:04 PM (#2598863)
Am I the only one who thinks, maybe, just maybe, Boras took the one step too far on this one.


That's what I was thinking, but I can see the possibility of maybe either LA team giving him either what he wants, or enough to save face so to speak.

Other than that:
The Cubs' ownership situation will not be resolved in time for them to be players;
The Whitesox owner won't bid out of misguided "principle" (which word does not mean what he thinks it means...)
Other high revenue teams:????

Boras has on occasion misread the market, one can only hope that this would be one of those occasions- it'd be a far more visible blunder than any he's ever made before.
   32. The District Attorney Posted: October 29, 2007 at 05:12 PM (#2598878)
After the DiceK fiasco, Scotty [Boras] needs a big public win.
A, what fiasco? B, he doesn't care.
Why couldn't A-Rod play 2B?
No! No superstar-caliber player is moving to a position that they've never played before in their life and that is difficult to play. I will only accept people moving to the easy positions -- 1B, LF, RF.

And, yes, I would prefer that A-Rod move rather than Wright or Reyes. But I can't claim to read his mind... I have no idea whether this "he's a mercenary, so he'll move wherever you ask him to as long as you sign the check" theory is true or not. I am just saying that, if the condition of his signing with the Mets is that he play 3B or SS, I would accept that.

And yes, this whole exercise is ridiculous. $250M or $300M or whatever the hell it'll be is probably too much to shell out on decline-era ARod anyway. Plus you're effectively costing yourself even more money than that if you end up using him, Wright or Reyes at a position that doesn't maximize their defensive value. Plus getting rid of Delgado will be difficult; getting rid of Alou means you're not gaining as much hitting in the transaction; and benching Milledge is not an option. Plus ARod doesn't even seem to like the city the team plays in. Plus he and/or the Mets might have grudges from the botched negotiations when he was a free agent the first time. Plus it's ridiculously easy to foresee a scenario where he becomes the whipping boy of both New York franchises, and the ?hitstorm he just went through will look like a light ?hit drizzle in comparison.

That said, ARod is one of the very greatest players in the entire history of baseball, acquiring him would improve the Mets, and I would be excited, as it ain't my money.
   33. Toolsy McClutch Posted: October 29, 2007 at 06:09 PM (#2598962)
Boras is an agent, he's built his empire on a combination of image and results. To say he doesn't care makes no sense at all.

The fiasco where he felt he could get FA money for DiceK, or at least postured that way quite publically. That he was ready to walk away, before his player insisted he take a deal he advised against. Traditionally, when he's gone public with "offers" he's had incredible success. The only other time it failed that I can recall is when he went on record that he had a huge deal for Kevin Millwood ($100 million I think? Or do I have the player wrong?).

I think he needs a win here, and I'm betting he'll get it.
   34. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 29, 2007 at 06:15 PM (#2598973)
Going out and getting the best player in baseball to build around makes far better sense, IMO.


Too bad the Cardinals aren't trading him.

Does anyone outside of the midwest realize that since coming into the league, Pujols has averaged just under one and a half WARP per season over A-Rod? Nearly 3 more WARP per year over the last five years. I know of the problems with BP's defensive metrics, but the advanced metrics also indicate that Albert is a superb 1B and A-Rod is an average 3B. It isn't 2001 any longer. Drop this "best player in baseball" nonsense.
   35. JPWF13 Posted: October 29, 2007 at 06:39 PM (#2599014)
Nearly 3 more WARP per year over the last five years. I know of the problems with BP's defensive metrics, but the advanced metrics also indicate that Albert is a superb 1B and A-Rod is an average 3B. It isn't 2001 any longer. Drop this "best player in baseball" nonsense.


1: The problem is that BBREF's defensive numbers are driving that Warp advantage- 20+ runs better defensively than the average 1B? Is that possible?

2: But then again WinShares has Pujols ahead over the past 4 years- but by a similar margin

3: AROD plays in the tougher league :-)
   36. heals9 Posted: October 29, 2007 at 06:41 PM (#2599018)
Does anyone outside of the midwest realize that since coming into the league, Pujols has averaged just under one and a half WARP per season over A-Rod? Nearly 3 more WARP per year over the last five years. I know of the problems with BP's defensive metrics, but the advanced metrics also indicate that Albert is a superb 1B and A-Rod is an average 3B. It isn't 2001 any longer. Drop this "best player in baseball" nonsense.


Well, the advanced metrics are *&^%$ in the head.
   37. HowardMegdal Posted: October 29, 2007 at 06:45 PM (#2599023)
Rodriguez played a more difficult position, his OPS+ was 20 points higher, and he does play in the better league.

You can go back before 2007 to make the Pujols argument, but it certainly isn't an obvious one.

I know you support batting the pitcher eighth, Sparkles- A-Rod as well?
   38. Sam M. Posted: October 29, 2007 at 06:58 PM (#2599043)
I'll settle this.

1) A-Rod had the better 2007 season.

2) Pujols has been consistently better, overall, since he came into the league.

3) If it's close, you have to take Pujols because he earns a lot less and is thus the more valuable asset.

All that said, these two are two of the greatest players in the history of the game. If it's hyperbole by a measure of one to call A-Rod the best player in baseball, it's hardly a mortal sin.

Sheesh.
   39. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 29, 2007 at 07:01 PM (#2599045)
1: The problem is that BBREF's defensive numbers are driving that Warp advantage- 20+ runs better defensively than the average 1B? Is that possible?


The fact that A-Rod has basically hit on a level with Scott Rolen and other mortals three of the last four years is also driving it. And I don't presume to know that I can quantify defense any better than the experts, but I can attest to him being an exceptional 1B.

3: AROD plays in the tougher league :-)


Yeah, since 2005 only.
   40. HowardMegdal Posted: October 29, 2007 at 07:02 PM (#2599047)
3) If it's close, you have to take Pujols because he earns a lot less and is thus the more valuable asset.

Fair enough- but as commodities, isn't it worth noting that Pujols would require trading, gosh, Wright/Reyes + for St. Louis to consider it, while A Rod costs nothing in players?
   41. HowardMegdal Posted: October 29, 2007 at 07:06 PM (#2599053)
The fact that A-Rod has basically hit on a level with Scott Rolen and other mortals three of the last four years is also driving it. And I don't presume to know that I can quantify defense any better than the experts, but I can attest to him being an exceptional 1B.

He was third in OPS among 3B in 2006, sixth in 2004.

In 2005 and 2007 he had the fourth and third best OPS+ of any third baseman, ever.

Where are you getting three of four years from?
   42. The District Attorney Posted: October 29, 2007 at 07:06 PM (#2599054)
Well, look, I certainly agree that Boras is a very smart guy and that if he predicts he can get more $ for A-Rod than he's already getting, he's probably right. I just disagree that he cares the least bit what the public or media might say. He only cares what the players think, and the players know what is really going on, a lot better than the guy trying to come up with the best headline to draw peoples' attention to the NY Post does. The media wouldn't even focus on "Boras does a bad job representing his client" anyway. That's not the story, as far as they're concerned. They'd mostly lambaste A-Rod, with just side jibes at Boras.

I also disagree that anyone would look at the job that Boras did with Dice-K and conclude that they did not want that guy representing them.

(And I agree that Pujols > A-Rod.)
   43. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 29, 2007 at 07:08 PM (#2599056)
Sorry, 3 of 5. Typo.
   44. HowardMegdal Posted: October 29, 2007 at 07:21 PM (#2599070)
Sorry, 3 of 5. Typo.

You are referring to the season in which he won the MVP, slugged .600 with 47 home runs while playing gold glove defense at shortstop? Just checking...
   45. JPWF13 Posted: October 29, 2007 at 07:48 PM (#2599110)
Where are you getting three of four years from?


Just before this season began there were several posters whose opinion was

1: ARod is a 3B now and will never be an SS again (I tend to agree).
2: ARod is likely to be a 130 OPS+ ing 3B from here on out- and his future value should be estimated on that basis. (look at 2004 and 2006 and ignore 2005....)

If you buy 1 & 2, then AROD's current contract was nuts, the value that AROD was likely to put up from 2007 onward was likely to be very good, but hardly historic. If you buy 1 & 2- then either AROD just made a huge mistake, or some team's owner/GM is going to make an even bigger one.

Personally, even though Rolen is a better defensive 3B than Arod, given his fragility, and the fact that only once, in 2004, did he hit as well as AROD's career average, ARod is clearly more valuable than Rolen is or ever was.
   46. Sparkles Peterson Posted: October 29, 2007 at 08:18 PM (#2599142)
You are referring to the season in which he won the MVP, slugged .600 with 47 home runs while playing gold glove defense at shortstop? Just checking...


That would be the one. EQA of .315 and OPS+ of 147. Nowhere near his best offensive years, and I stated pretty clearly that I was only talking about offense with that statement. Or do you really think playing a mediocre 3B while putting up .315 EQAs would make A-Rod the best player in baseball?
   47. CrosbyBird Posted: October 29, 2007 at 08:21 PM (#2599148)
That said, ARod is one of the very greatest players in the entire history of baseball, acquiring him would improve the Mets, and I would be excited, as it ain't my money.

I think when you are a team that needs a playoff appearance desperately following the 2007 collapse and the new stadium coming in 2009, and there's a supremely talented player available for nothing but money, you would have to be crazy not to aggressively bid for him.

Certainly I'd love to see A-Rod playing 2B for the Mets, but he might be the only player in baseball that I'd move Jose Reyes over for. I think there's little question at this stage in their careers who is the better defensive SS, but the offense? I don't see how, especially with a terrible FA class, the Mets couldn't seriously consider a bid.
   48. BDC Posted: October 29, 2007 at 08:29 PM (#2599163)
#20 above got me to thinking AROD will sign with Seattle:

So the years spin by and now the boy is thirty (two)
Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true
There'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty
Before the last revolving year is through
And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
Were captive on the carousel of time
We cant return, we can only look behind
From where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game
   49. Шĥy Posted: October 29, 2007 at 09:07 PM (#2599220)
The only way Arod ends up on the Mets is if the Mets overbid the next highest offer by 30-50 million and have him play second. There are a lot of selling points to this for both parties. If Arod is not terrible defensively at second then his legacy improves dramatically. His value goes up and now he can add infield versatility to his credentials. The title of "best player ever" becomes more attainable. There is also no better way to stick it to the Yankees (even more than going to Boston).

For the Mets, Arod at second makes them a lock for the playoffs during a time that the Yankees are likley to miss the playoffs. There is no better time to steal market share. He'll be worth the huge contract. Four years in, he can move to first or to the outfield.
   50. CraigK Posted: October 29, 2007 at 09:11 PM (#2599226)
Why not this:

Reyes back (yeah, remember?) to 2B
Wright stays at third
A-Rod stays an average defender and hits 45+ bombs as a SS.
   51. JPWF13 Posted: October 29, 2007 at 09:19 PM (#2599238)
ARod just looks physically different now than when he did a few years ago. I don't think a return to SS is in the offing- unless he goes to a team that really has no SS.

Would he go to the Mets? My assumption is no simply because the Wilpons were involved in the earlier botched "negotiations"- but then again they may offer a boatload of cash this time, and ARod could choose to decide the earlier negotiations were all Phillips fault...

So: Who plays where?
I can't see either Wright or ARod playing 2B
I'm guessing one or the other goes to RF.


naaah I don't see this happening.
Posada replacing BlowDuca is more likely.
   52. J. Cross Posted: October 29, 2007 at 09:42 PM (#2599272)
Why not this:

Reyes back (yeah, remember?) to 2B
Wright stays at third
A-Rod stays an average defender and hits 45+ bombs as a SS.


b/c Reyes is easily the best defender of the 3? b/c A-Rod can probably no longer play an average short?

Either A-Rod or Wright would have to move to 2nd. I don't have a problem with a Wright to 2nd experiment. The worst part of his defensive game is his throwing arm so he might actually be pretty solid over there. The one concern (and it IS a big one) is whether playing 2nd base shortens Wright's career. How good *is* the evidence that playign 2nd shortens careers? Is it just that 2nd basemen are the poor men's SS's and have shorter careers by virtue of less athleticism? I think we know that 2nd basemen are, on average, poorer players than players at other positions so you'd have to adjust for that. If I were the Mets I'd have 3 of the smartest people I know working to try to quantify the career-shortening or offense weakening effects of playing 2nd base. If the effect is real and substantial, I don't do it. If it's a myth, let's spend some of that new ballpark money!
   53. Swoboda is freedom Posted: October 29, 2007 at 09:51 PM (#2599281)
Any A-Rod to 2nd experiment would be short lived. 1st base or left field opens after next year.
   54. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: October 30, 2007 at 12:48 PM (#2599901)
The Whitesox owner won't bid out of misguided "principle" (which word does not mean what he thinks it means...)

In this case the alleged "principle" is to not deal with Scott Boras at a personal level, and this court rules that it would certainly be fair to call that a "principle." That wouldn't necessarily preclude them from bidding, as they did so the first time he was up for grabs. And I think a lot of folks in that organization would like an excuse to be rid of Juan Uribe, for many reasons.
   55. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 30, 2007 at 01:23 PM (#2599925)
Boras has on occasion misread the market, one can only hope that this would be one of those occasions- it'd be a far more visible blunder than any he's ever made before.

Of course, in this particular case, Boras could have drastically misread the market and still wind up getting a record-shattering contract for his client.
   56. Fat Al Posted: October 30, 2007 at 01:25 PM (#2599931)
This is also no-lose for Boras. He can spin anything that happens as a victory since the new deal will certainly far exceed the remainder of the old deal.
   57. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: October 30, 2007 at 02:46 PM (#2600037)
He can spin anything that happens as a victory since the new deal will certainly far exceed the remainder of the old deal.

When that happens, no spin will be necessary.
   58. Toolsy McClutch Posted: October 30, 2007 at 05:12 PM (#2600281)
This is also no-lose for Boras. He can spin anything that happens as a victory since the new deal will certainly far exceed the remainder of the old deal.


I disagree, if the total offer is less than the Yankees offer was "going" to be, all the anti-Boras FOs and media will jump all over it. You have to agree, Scotty is generally disliked amongst most Front Offices. And most teams have at least one media schill. And there are lots of crotchety old men pining for the days of yore when players were indentured servants.
   59. JPWF13 Posted: October 30, 2007 at 05:17 PM (#2600292)
This is also no-lose for Boras. He can spin anything that happens as a victory since the new deal will certainly far exceed the remainder of the old deal.


No, if AROD gets much less than (the remaining deal + reputed Yankee extension offer)- then Boras gets to say:

"see it wasn't the money- ARod just wanted out and was willing to take less to escape"

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