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Thursday, April 10, 2014

Granillo: David Ortiz Sets the Record for Slowest Tater Trot

Wow! 32.91 seconds! That’s about 25 minutes in instant replay time!

David Ortiz has always been near the top of the Tater Trot Tracker leaderboard with his classic Papi trots. In 2010, he was the first player to break the 30-second barrier. Since then, he has dominated the “Slowest Trot” lists every year. Last year, for example, Ortiz had 7 of the 10 slowest trots of the year.

Despite all of that, the single slowest trot of the Tater Trot Tracker era (non-injury division) belongs to Bobby Abreu, who took 31.56 seconds to round the bases on his final career trot. And last year, a gimpy (but not “injured”) Todd Helton took the number two spot with his 31.54 second trot in May (number 3 was claimed by Miguel Cabrera in August). In fact, that 30.59 second trot on May 24, 2010, was the only time Ortiz beat the half-minute mark.

That is, until tonight. In the 8th inning of the Red Sox game against the Rangers, Big Papi skied a ball down the right field line, clear over Pesky’s Pole. Ortiz stood at the plate as he waited to see if the ball would land fair or foul before finally beginning his trot six seconds after making contact. From there, he trotted around the bases like normal. But when you’re David Ortiz and you’ve given yourself six seconds at the plate, trotting around “like normal” is going to end badly.

The trot officially clocked in at 32.91 seconds — nearly 1.5 seconds slower than the previous slowest trot ever.

And that’s being generous! Because of the particular set-up of Fenway Park, there were no cameras to give a clear view of which foot touched home plate first. The 32.91 seconds assumes that Papi’s right foot is the one to reach the base first.

Repoz Posted: April 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Nasty Nate Posted: April 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM (#4683729)
This particular trot didn't slow the game down, as it was reviewed anyway.

The hit was about 100 feet deeper than the pole.
   2. Sonic Youk Posted: April 10, 2014 at 11:28 AM (#4683772)
One of the weirder homeruns I've seen. Nobody had any idea where the ball was, including Ortiz and both sets of announcers, but when they finally found a good camera angle, the thing was fair by ten or fifteen feet. It also came damn close to making the grandstand, something I believe has never been done in Fenway.
   3. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 10, 2014 at 11:28 AM (#4683774)
Yeah, I can see why he stayed in the batters box and watched the ball.
   4. Nasty Nate Posted: April 10, 2014 at 11:31 AM (#4683777)
One of the weirder homeruns I've seen. Nobody seemed to have any idea where the ball was, including Ortiz and both sets of announcers. But when they finally found a good camera angle, the thing was fair by ten or fifteen feet. It also came damn close to making the grandstand, something I believe has never been done in Fenway.


It's almost off the screen in the hittracker chart.
   5. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: April 10, 2014 at 11:44 AM (#4683789)
Plunk him in the ass.
   6. Nasty Nate Posted: April 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM (#4683794)
Plunk him in the ass.


Well, he will be playing against Brian McCann tonight...
   7. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: April 10, 2014 at 02:03 PM (#4683915)
He watched the ball for about 5 or 6 seconds because no one knew where the hell the ball was or whether it was fair.

Like #2, I've never seen a ball hit that far at Fenway in that location.
   8. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 10, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4683921)
That ball was demolished.

I hate that "he didn't run because he didn't know it was fair or foul" is considered OK. I get that everyone does it but man do I hate it. You hit the ball, you run, it's not that tough. You don't need to do a dead sprint, even a cursory jog would be OK.
   9. Moloka'i Three-Finger Brown (Declino DeShields) Posted: April 10, 2014 at 02:47 PM (#4683952)
I don't intend this to be mean, but tater-trot-tracking is still a thing?
   10. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: April 10, 2014 at 02:49 PM (#4683953)

I hate that "he didn't run because he didn't know it was fair or foul" is considered OK. I get that everyone does it but man do I hate it. You hit the ball, you run, it's not that tough. You don't need to do a dead sprint, even a cursory jog would be OK.


Just how filled with hate are you? Is this a one off or are there other things that everyone does that feed the fire? I hate the slow trot on a ball hit to center that may not actually get out, but in this case it was either out or out.
   11. BDC Posted: April 10, 2014 at 03:08 PM (#4683972)
Meanwhile, here's the heart of the Rangers bullpen so far this year:

Age W  ERA SV  IP ERA+  WHIP
Joakim Soria       30 1 9.00  1 3.0   50 1.333
Alexi Ogando       30 0 7.20  0 5.0   60 1.800
Pedro Figueroa
*    28 0 8.31  0 4.1   53 1.846
Seth Rosin         25 1 6.75  0 4.0   65 1.750
Neal Cotts
*        34 0 6.75  0 4.0   65 1.750 


Long summer ahead :)
   12. valuearbitrageur Posted: April 10, 2014 at 03:13 PM (#4683978)
This evil shall not go unavenged.

The wrath of McCann is coming!
   13. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 10, 2014 at 03:14 PM (#4683981)
Just how filled with hate are you?


About 45% I guess. I didn't mean to come off that angry. I guess "bothered" is probably the right word. It just drives me nuts when players don't run. It's such a simple little thing to do that takes virtually zero effort.

I mean it's Big Papi, he can pretty much do whatever the hell he wants as far as I'm concerned. I just wish players would run.
   14. Morty Causa Posted: April 10, 2014 at 03:20 PM (#4683986)
My sentiments, too.
   15. cardsfanboy Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:26 PM (#4684019)
I hate that "he didn't run because he didn't know it was fair or foul" is considered OK. I get that everyone does it but man do I hate it. You hit the ball, you run, it's not that tough. You don't need to do a dead sprint, even a cursory jog would be OK.


That is where I'm at... do a slow jog or whatever, but leave the damn box.

Although to be fair, I do think it's kinda badass to watch a guy who has put an exclamation mark on the game to stare the ball down (ala Pujols/Bonds) on occasion, but if you find yourself doing it more than 5 times a year, it's probably an indication, that you are an a-hole.
   16. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:26 PM (#4684021)
It just drives me nuts when players don't run. It's such a simple little thing to do that takes virtually zero effort.


No, I am pretty sure running, by definition, requires effort.

I don't mean to get on you or anything, I guess I just don't care if someone watches the ball go foul. It's either time to take another swing or time to jog around the bases, in my view running doesn't enter the equation at any point.

Does a slow trot around the bases bother you? I am pretty firmly in the "don't let them hit HR's off you if you don't want them to show you up" camp when it comes to MLB. If anything someone that busts ass down the line every single batted ball is freaking obnoxious. We get it, you try harder than the rest of us.
   17. Nasty Nate Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:31 PM (#4684031)
It's either time to take another swing or time to jog around the bases, in my view running doesn't enter the equation at any point.


I think Jose's point is that sometimes there is a third outcome: the ball is fair and in play. The Ortiz one from yesterday was a no-doubter, but the problem is that players sometimes misjudge whether a ball is a no-doubter.
   18. Howie Menckel Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:41 PM (#4684044)

"If anything someone that busts ass down the line every single batted ball is freaking obnoxious."

if you're under 40, you may not have seen Pete Rose sprint to first AFTER EACH WALK. that's a gamer!
:)
   19. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: April 10, 2014 at 05:06 PM (#4684072)
if you're under 40, you may not have seen Pete Rose sprint to first AFTER EACH WALK. that's a gamer!

If you've watched the '75 WS on DVD, you definitely have not seen Pete Rose sprint to first after each walk.
   20. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 10, 2014 at 05:12 PM (#4684081)
No, I am pretty sure running, by definition, requires effort.


Which is why I said "virtually no effort" rather than "literally." The problem is that when you are in the habit of not running you can cost your team a base here and there.

Lemme give you an example. Last night Yangervis Solarte hit a little pop fly single down the left field line. After he hit it he paused to watch for just a second. Had he been running right away he might have had a chance to go for two. Instead he didn't even attempt the double and was unable to score when Jeter singled later in the inning.

It's not the end of the world. As noted in any number of Cano threads the pluses far outweigh the minuses but the effort required of a token jog is so minimal I just wish guys would do it. I don't need the Pete Rose approach but jesus, just a little jog just in case you misjudged it or some wind pushes it or whatever...

CFB's point is a good one too. There is something bad ass when you just know (and yesterday's HR meets the criteria). No one quite does the dismissive look like Ortiz after he launches one and one of my favorite memories is Manny's walk-off in the 2007 LDS when he just stood at home plate for about 20 minutes after beating K-Rod.

In the end it is a fandom thing more than anything else. The guy who goes hard all the time (Pedroia, Jeter, pick your gritty mcgritster) is more fun to watch for me than Ortiz.
   21. Srul Itza Posted: April 10, 2014 at 06:38 PM (#4684118)
I don't begrudge someone like Ortiz not running. Dude is not built for running, and any time he can avoid it, is probably a good thing in the long run.

And this home run adds another line to the Legend of Big Papi, hitting clutch home runs. This one was not a walk off, but it was still pretty damn dramatic.

Yeah, of course he does not come through all the time. But the number of such moments he has had in both the regular season and post season is pretty impressive.
   22. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: April 10, 2014 at 07:04 PM (#4684136)
Srul,

You are very reluctant to mention the "C" word aren't you? I agree, his ability NOT to choke is quite amazing. As for the home run trot, I don't mind it. If the pitcher doesn't like it, he can always serve up a little chin music next AB he faces him. Nothing too nasty, just a little back off reminder that guys like Pedro and Gibson used to employ every now and then.

   23. Howie Menckel Posted: April 10, 2014 at 07:44 PM (#4684144)

"If you've watched the '75 WS on DVD, you definitely have not seen Pete Rose sprint to first after each walk."

he was into it early in his career, and took Whitey Ford's jab about it - "Charlie Hustle" - as a book title. not sure how often he did it by mid-career...

   24. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 10, 2014 at 08:02 PM (#4684150)
I don't begrudge someone like Ortiz not running. Dude is not built for running, and any time he can avoid it, is probably a good thing in the long run.


That's how I look at it. Barely anyone in the stadium knew where the ball went at first, I can see Ortiz not running if he thought it was going foul. And that link in #4 shows just how weird a hit it was, it had a lot of slice on it.

Also, Charlie Hustle is my gambling pseudonym, has been since I was about 17 years old. Don't sleep on Chuck Hustle.
   25. Repoz Posted: April 10, 2014 at 10:02 PM (#4684204)
Nice that Michael the Kay & David Cone gave a shout out to Granillo's Tater Trot Tracker in the 1st inning of the Yankee game...but the dig ("Larry has too much time on his hands"...how original) from shitferbrain Flush Flaherty was weak sauce.
   26. Repoz Posted: April 11, 2014 at 09:22 AM (#4684325)
Bumpcity for Ace.

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