Yikes! This is longer than the full text of the Gibbons v. Ogden opinion! #toot-toot
RG: So you just didn’t go back to the Mets (after ‘01). You didn’t want to be there anymore.
JG: Yeah, I’d been with the Mets as Triple-A manager for three years. (Bobby) Valentine was managing at that time. Every year they were going through at least one coach, maybe two. I didn’t get one of the jobs and, I mean, that’s the way it goes. He wanted one of his people. But usually a Triple-A manager slides in there after a few years. That didn’t happen.
So, I applied again that following year after the 2001 season. I think Valentine was looking for a third-base coach. They called and said, we don’t need an interview. We interviewed the year before. Then I didn’t get it, so I told them, you know what, I’m going to move on. It’s time. It’s no big deal. (Mets beat writer) Marty Noble called me and wrote an article and (GM) Steve Phillips called me the day after it came out and said ‘I think we definitely need to part ways.’ I told him, ‘Well I told you that’ (laughs).
Billy Beane was out in Oakland and he always told me when I was in the Mets system as a coach, to keep in touch. He said if you ever want to come over and are looking for a job, just let me know. So I thought that was my ace in the hole. But around this time (when I quit), I hadn’t even checked with him. He told me and I didn’t think he was bullshitting me.
They were having some success at the time. I can remember with J.P. (an assistant at the time to Beane with the A’s), they were in New York playing the Yankees in the playoffs and I walked up and said, ‘Do you guys have anything over there?’ And he goes, ‘No, we don’t’ (JG laughs). I thought, well, OK. So J.P. started making some calls around the game for me. Nothing broke.
Let’s see, I had two weeks left on my contract with the Mets. I had been living in New Mexico for a couple of years and had just moved back to San Antonio. I had three kids and just bought a new house and had two weeks left on my job. So, yeah, I needed to find something.
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1. JE (Jason Epstein)Here's what preceded the above excerpt:
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There are probably very few people on the planet who have the knowledge base he does when it comes MLB in Canada (given his Expos time). I wonder if he could write a book that I would want to read.
As a Jays fan, I am pleased with the Gibbons hire. In the article he discusses how the biggest mistake he can make is trying to control every little thing. He seems a good fit for this team who will let the players play while still being very direct and building an open culture, It is February so blind optimism is absolutely called for.
Interesting story of a life in baseball.
This is the case for a lot of minor league managers, apparently. Ken Oberkfell was managing the Mets AAA for a number of years and never got a coaching job. This probably isn't a good sign for the organization. Either the man isn't major league coach/manager material and you've kept him on a long time, or he is and you can't pull the trigger and bring him up.
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