Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Friday, January 22, 2010

Griffin: McGwire not a true cheat: Lee

Screw Costas. Bill Lee for commissioner for life!

“Wasn’t there an asterisk for 154 games vs. 162?” Lee asked rhetorically, regarding Roger Maris’ breaking of Babe Ruth’s home run mark in ‘61. “There’s a whole lot of factors. The balls were taken out of Haiti and boom they’re wound tighter. The pitching. The designated hitter. There’s so many changes in the game of baseball that influence the outcome. You just can’t take one over the other.

“Just like McGwire said: Steroids didn’t give him the hand-eye (coordination), the quickness, nothing like that. It may have given him a little more strength. As a pitcher, I don’t care what a guy takes. He can be lit like a Christmas tree, I’m going to find a way to get him out. It didn’t bother me when I pitched. I just hated facing guys like Richie Allen when he was hung over.”

...“Everybody juiced in some way,” Lee said. “You had a rough night so you take a few greenies. That was tough playing in those days. These (players have access to) designer drugs like the East Germans were using a long time before.

“The object of life is to try and live longer, be healthier. Ponce de Leon was looking for the Fountain of Youth. If you told me there was a magic bullet, I’d be knocking over old folks homes so I can pitch for one more year. Every kid’s a little bit bigger. It is out there in our society.

“To single out ballplayers and BALCO for putting a little Clear on the back of your tongue to make you heal faster from injuries ... hell, how many times did I get injected? At the end of the ‘74 season I couldn’t get out of bed because my kidneys shut down. That’s what the team put me on.”

Repoz Posted: January 22, 2010 at 12:24 PM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: history, red sox, steroids

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. hscs Posted: January 22, 2010 at 12:54 PM (#3443871)
The Mann Act? I think I'm going to be sick.
   2. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: January 22, 2010 at 01:52 PM (#3443886)
“To single out ballplayers and BALCO for putting a little Clear on the back of your tongue to make you heal faster from injuries ... hell, how many times did I get injected? At the end of the ‘74 season I couldn’t get out of bed because my kidneys shut down. That’s what the team put me on.”

This reminds me of Nick Nolte's rant in North Dallas Forty when they kick him off the team for smoking pot.
   3. depletion Posted: January 22, 2010 at 02:40 PM (#3443911)
..."Everybody juiced in some way,” Lee said.

No.
   4. heyyoo Posted: January 22, 2010 at 04:55 PM (#3444071)
"That was part of the routine," Lee shrugged. "It was as gruesome as it seems seeing those two a-holes in one stall. It must have been a handicapped stall. You couldn't fit them in a regular stall."


I laughed
   5. Dale Sams Posted: January 22, 2010 at 07:17 PM (#3444318)
This reminds me of Nick Nolte's rant in North Dallas Forty when they kick him off the team for smoking pot


I've wanted to make snark references to that movie for years, but didn't think anyone would get it. Best I could do was say something when Romo fumbled that extra point.
   6. Srul Itza Posted: January 22, 2010 at 07:23 PM (#3444331)
"Everybody juiced in some way,” Lee said.


No.


And of course, you know better than somebody who was there.
   7. DL from MN Posted: January 22, 2010 at 07:42 PM (#3444353)
I've wanted to make snark references to XXXXX for years, but didn't think anyone would get it.


Never stopped Repoz..
   8. ericr Posted: January 22, 2010 at 09:11 PM (#3444472)
How about the fact that it wasn't against the rules?
   9. i'm not STEAGLES and you shouldn't be either Posted: January 22, 2010 at 10:01 PM (#3444527)
so long as this is a richard griffin article, after seeing JP ricciardi on baseball tonight, i totally understand the urge to punch him. his face just screams snookie.
   10. SuperGrover Posted: January 22, 2010 at 10:15 PM (#3444539)
And of course, you know better than somebody who was there.


Anytime someone makes a blanket statement about an entire population, you can be pretty much rest assured it is false. In other words...

There is no ####### way that everyone in MLB was juicing in some way or another, even if you include caffeine, tobacco and alcohol as "juices."
   11. akrasian Posted: January 22, 2010 at 10:27 PM (#3444555)
Of course it was hyperbole. His point was likely that it is normal for baseball players to do things to enhance performance or speed up healing through better chemistry. If - as Lee explicitly is - you include things like shots to let you play through various injuries, the exceptions are going to be rare.
   12. Chris Dial Posted: January 25, 2010 at 07:34 PM (#3445911)
"Everybody juiced in some way,” Lee said.
I wonder if this will be Andy and SugarBear's "go to" quote now?

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Kiko Sakata
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogHP: Baseball is leaving the human factor behind
(57 - 3:16am, May 26)
Last: bjhanke

NewsblogOT: NBA Monthly Thread, May 2012
(1834 - 3:06am, May 26)
Last: Spivey

NewsblogHimrich’s Top Ten Target Field Foods
(8 - 2:43am, May 26)
Last: Long John McCaine Mutiny on the Bounty (scott)

NewsblogBoston.com: Curt Schilling’s 38 Studios lays off all staff
(119 - 1:28am, May 26)
Last: Swedish Chef

NewsblogT.R. Sullivan: Of Frank Robinson, Milt Pappas and Jim Palmer
(8 - 12:40am, May 26)
Last: The Gurus DO NOT BourbonSamurai

NewsblogWilmoth: Nate McLouth Designated For Assignment
(12 - 12:25am, May 26)
Last: Tripon

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1973 Discussion
(15 - 12:13am, May 26)
Last: DanG

NewsblogBud Selig -- No need for more MLB replay for now - ESPN
(86 - 11:59pm, May 25)
Last: cardsfanboy

NewsblogThe Hall of Very Good: Former Cards Slugger Critical of "LaRussa's Regime"
(4 - 11:26pm, May 25)
Last: cardsfanboy

NewsblogCSN to host ‘Phillies at the Beach’ on Memorial Day
(18 - 11:25pm, May 25)
Last: Fielder's the first baseman, Felder is the fielder

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1972 Ballot
(28 - 11:25pm, May 25)
Last: lieiam

Sox TherapyA Winning Ballclub?
(20 - 11:24pm, May 25)
Last: Dan

NewsblogMatschulat: Did I Miss The "Paul Konerko Is So Overrated OMG" Bandwagon?
(27 - 11:16pm, May 25)
Last: baudib

NewsblogTBO: Nerdy Rays head north
(17 - 10:07pm, May 25)
Last: PreservedFish

NewsblogDodgers want to host NHL's Winter Classic
(22 - 9:38pm, May 25)
Last: Cris E

Buy MLB playoff tickets, plus 2011 World Series, 2011 ALCS tickets and NLCS game tickets. We also have Texas Rangers playoff schedule, tickets to Red Sox games and Yankees game tickets. Plus, buy Phillies baseball tickets, Tigers playoff tickets and the biggies like ALDS baseball tickets and 2011 NLDS tickets.

Demarini, Easton and TPX Baseball Bats

 

 

 

AllianceTickets.com has cheap MLB Tickets. Get all your Colorado Rockies Tickets, Seattle Mariners Tickets, San Francisco Giants Tickets and all your favorite baseball tickets here. We also carry cheap Denver Broncos Tickets, Seattle Seahawks Tickets and Denver Nuggets Tickets.

Page rendered in 0.1717 seconds
54 querie(s) executed