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Sunday, May 20, 2012

Groeschen: 1982 Cincinnati Reds: Age against the Machine

Sufferin’ Scherrerers…a look back at the 1982 Reds.

The ’82 Reds had a lethal combination of lackluster young players, veterans who had off-years and big-name players on the downside of their careers. Result: Last in the National League West, 28 games out.

“I try to forget everything I can about that year,” said Ron Oester, second baseman on the ’82 team. “That was the longest year of my baseball career.”

...After ’81, then-Reds general manager Dick Wagner engineered a roster makeover with an eye on finances. Outfielders Ken Griffey Sr. and George Foster were traded, as was third baseman Ray Knight. Outfielder Dave Collins left as a free agent.

Some predicted the Reds could not win after losing that much talent, and those forecasts proved painfully accurate.

“We realized early on it was not a very good baseball team, but I don’t think anybody believed the depths of how bad that team really was,” said Marty Brennaman, then and now the Reds’ primary radio voice. “It was a team with a bunch of great guys, but you had guys with limited ability and guys who had seen their better years.”

 

Repoz Posted: May 20, 2012 at 07:43 AM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RMc and His Roster of Rubbish Posted: May 20, 2012 at 06:42 PM (#4136479)
How bad were the '82 Reds? They had just 61 wins, five fewer than the year before...despite playing 54 MORE GAMES. (It didn't help that they were nine games over pythagorean in '81, and six games under the following year...)
   2. AndrewJ Posted: May 20, 2012 at 08:02 PM (#4136517)
It was also Tom Seaver's first losing pro season. He'd go 9-14 the following year with the Mets, but with a significantly lower ERA.
   3. puck Posted: May 20, 2012 at 10:47 PM (#4136581)
I remember that team. And a Bill James comment in the Abstract, noting that Cesar Cedeno (8 HR's/57 RBI, but 110 OPS+) took the brunt of the criticism. James wrote something like Paul Householder's failure to hit .220 had more to do with the failed season than Cedeno. (Householder was a heralded prospect entering 1982. Looking at bb-ref, he didn't have a career.)

Speaking of failed 80's prospects, what happened with Brad Komminsk? Was he not legitimately tearing through the Braves' system? (I.e., not just park effects?)
   4. The District Attorney Posted: May 20, 2012 at 11:03 PM (#4136589)
Yeah, I seem to remember James saying that Komminsk was the one guy he looked at during that period whose major league performance just didn't seem to have anything to do with his minor league performance.

The Andy Marte of his day, I suppose.
   5. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: May 20, 2012 at 11:56 PM (#4136607)
I went to one game in 1982, and the Reds beat the soon-to-be champion Cardinals 10-1. Maybe they needed me there all the time.

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