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Monday, May 28, 2012

Gutierrez: Bonds speaks about possibly re-joining Giants

Does the seven-time National League MVP expect to be a first-ballot Hall of Famer?

“I have no idea,” he said. “That’s up to the writers. I don’t worry about that stuff. I’ll be at home having a good time with my kids. Or hopefully here. Doing some stuff for other kids. That’ll take care of itself. I don’t need to worry about that stuff.

“You guys know me. I don’t try to predict the future or analyze how other people are thinking or how it’s going to turn out…it would be very sad if it didn’t happen. That’s why I don’t need to comment on it. There’s really no need.”

He had already spoken volumes.

Thanks to Bulging Barnald.

Repoz Posted: May 28, 2012 at 07:11 PM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: May 28, 2012 at 08:35 PM (#4141863)
I was gonna come in here and just make the "anything to keep playing time from Brandon Belt" comment but, looking at the Giants' stats ...

Melky has a 174 OPS+. Melky! Pagan is also tossing in a 132 and Gregor Blanco (Blanco?) is chipping in with a 127. Also Vogelsong is rocking a 140 ERA+. This is one strange team and that Sabean is a genius!
   2. NJ in DC (Now with Wife and Fetus!) Posted: May 28, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4141871)
Melky has a 174 OPS+. Melky!

Thank you. I really wish more people were talking about this. After all the #### he got early in his career, the Melk Man is now at a 132 OPS+ over his last 900+ PAs.
   3. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 28, 2012 at 09:13 PM (#4141872)
Melky has a 174 OPS+. Melky!


Thank you. I really wish more people were talking about this. After all the #### he got early in his career, the Melk Man is now at a 132 OPS+ over his last 900+ PAs.

Glad to see the Melk Man break through, and at least the Yanks got Boone Logan out of him.
   4. X-Roid User Posted: May 28, 2012 at 09:54 PM (#4141894)
I'm still pissed at MLB for robbing me the joy of watching Bonds hit for a couple more years .
   5. Tin Angel Posted: May 28, 2012 at 10:26 PM (#4141907)
Even with Melky's inevitable cooling off once Pablo comes back the Giants should, for the first time in many years, actually have an average offense, possibly even slightly above average.

Bonds on the radio was fun...you can just hear in his voice how much he still loves baseball and being at the ballpark.
   6. catomi01 Posted: May 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM (#4141920)
bonds needs to look across the bay...a bonds/ramirez DH platoon would be their best spot on offense.
   7. toratoratora Posted: May 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM (#4141925)
Pretty much every time I've heard Bonds in a booth he's been funny and articulate. It's a crying shame that he's a baseball pariah. I'd love to hear him talk more often. Matter of fact (I've said this before), I'd pay hard cash to see him and an equally insightful pitcher from his era, say Maddux, sit down for an extended period ala Reggie and Gibson and discuss baseball, talk about hitters and pitchers, what they looked for, how they approached em, just talk the game.
It would make a helluva interview.

Does the seven-time National League MVP expect to be a first-ballot Hall of Famer?

One would really hope the first part of this sentence answers the second half.
   8. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM (#4141933)
Thank you. I really wish more people were talking about this. After all the #### he got early in his career, the Melk Man is now at a 132 OPS+ over his last 900+ PAs.


Was the "####" unwarranted, though? He held his own in the majors at ages 21 and 22, and so looked like he could be at least a decent player. But then he simply didn't develop from ages 23-25. And he was getting 500 PAs during those years. How long are you supposed to stick with a player like that, in fairness?
   9. NJ in DC (Now with Wife and Fetus!) Posted: May 29, 2012 at 12:03 AM (#4141949)
[9] Not saying the #### was undeserved, just saying I'm happy for him he was able to come back from that.
   10. zachtoma Posted: May 29, 2012 at 12:09 AM (#4141950)


Was the "####" unwarranted, though? He held his own in the majors at ages 21 and 22, and so looked like he could be at least a decent player. But then he simply didn't develop from ages 23-25. And he was getting 500 PAs during those years. How long are you supposed to stick with a player like that, in fairness


After that year with the Braves when he was so fat and awful - he could never hit but that year he seemed to lose his speed and his defense too - I didn't expect him to get 500 more PA in his career. But he turned into an all-star the next day apparently, who could have known? He really did look like a #### ballplayer.
   11. BochysFingers Posted: May 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM (#4141951)
Bonds on the radio was fun...you can just hear in his voice how much he still loves baseball and being at the ballpark.

I loved the play where apparently Zito and Hector Sanchez miscommunicated on a popup.

Bonds: I know that pitchers would love to help themselves out, but they really need to let the fielders do their job.
   12. esseff Posted: May 29, 2012 at 12:38 AM (#4141957)
Bonds was damned near unrecognizable on TV. Lean.
   13. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 29, 2012 at 05:24 AM (#4141976)
Allowing Bonds back would send a horrendous message to America's youth that it's okay to go on a minute-long tangent.
   14. Walt Davis Posted: May 29, 2012 at 05:40 AM (#4141978)
But he turned into an all-star the next day apparently

And not by joining the Cardinals which is the way every other sad sack of #### does it, those goddamned bastard SOBs.
   15. bjhanke Posted: May 29, 2012 at 07:26 AM (#4141988)
Hey Walt. So far, our only old sad sacks have been Holliday, Berkman and Beltran, unless you're counting McGwire himself. On the other hand, as a Cubs fan, you are certainly entitled to call the Cardinals "goddamned bastard SOBs" after we just won a miracle World Championship and you guys can't ever seem to buy any luck.

If it makes any difference, and I'm being serious in this sentence, I personally will root for the Cubs when they do get into the postseason again, which they will. Over a century is too long. It's time for the law of averages to man up and get those Cubs a championship. - Brock Hanke
   16. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: May 29, 2012 at 12:20 PM (#4142123)
Bonds was damned near unrecognizable on TV. Lean.

Well gosh b' golly and jeepers creepers, I can't for the life of me imagine how such a thing could be.
   17. Bitter Mouse, Space Tyrant Posted: May 29, 2012 at 12:25 PM (#4142131)
Allowing Bonds back would send a horrendous message to America's youth that it's okay to go on a minute-long tangent.


Quoted for the awesome.
   18. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: May 29, 2012 at 12:31 PM (#4142135)
I suspect his conditioning--or lack thereof--in Atlanta has a lot to do with it, but Melky is a great example to keep in mind that a player's development is not always a linear thing.
   19. JJ1986 Posted: May 29, 2012 at 12:39 PM (#4142138)
Wasn't the word on Melky that he was out partying every night? Kansas City might have been boring enough that he had to focus on baseball.
   20. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 29, 2012 at 01:07 PM (#4142150)
Melky has a 174 OPS+. Melky!

He's found his calling as a True Giant.
   21. Joe OBrien Posted: May 29, 2012 at 01:31 PM (#4142173)
Bonds said he had weeks of riding about 400 miles on his bike before some recent injuries forced him to have surgery. But I'm sure Joey's right, it's all about the roids. Hard work never got anybody anywhere.
   22. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: May 29, 2012 at 01:48 PM (#4142182)
Just ask Matt Kemp.

/Joey
   23. zenbitz Posted: May 29, 2012 at 02:22 PM (#4142199)
I heard Bonds monday on the giants telecast. His description of how Rick Rhoden taught him to use his brain was cool. There was also a good moment when he described how a certain situaion (0/0 count 2 outs) was a stupid time to try to steal a base (in his words, "run into an out"). I think it might have been in the 4th with Arias at first and Burriss batting (and Zito on deck!).

Most impressive about the Giants offense is that they are NL average with the following out machines:

Crawford 59 RC+ / 167 PA
Burris 38 RC+ / 116 PA
Theriot 11 RC+ / 70 PA
Huff 67 RC+ / 61 PA AT FIRST BASE
Pill 74 RC+ / 71 PA MOSTLY AT FIRST BASE

And their studly, young (Belt) 1B is slugging .354.
   24. Edgar James Olmos (chris h.) Posted: May 29, 2012 at 03:14 PM (#4142242)
Hey Walt. So far, our only old sad sacks have been Holliday, Berkman and Beltran, unless you're counting McGwire himself. On the other hand, as a Cubs fan, you are certainly entitled to call the Cardinals "goddamned bastard SOBs" after we just won a miracle World Championship and you guys can't ever seem to buy any luck.

What about Darryl Kyle, or all those pitcher reclamation projects that involve whatever wacky magic PED Dave Duncan keeps in storage drums around the St. Louis metro area?
   25. Walt Davis Posted: May 29, 2012 at 03:46 PM (#4142266)
And Matt Carpenter (137 OPS+) and Tyler Greene (108 -- Tyler f'ing Greene) and Jon Jay (129) and Schumaker (131) and Craig (218) and something called Matt Adams (180) and Kyle Lohse's 131 ERA+ and Jake Westbrook's 112 and that's just 2012.

And let's not forget Ludwick, the last useful bits of Lugo, Ankiel ("hey, Tony, bet you can't turn a pitcer into a hitter"), Felipe Lopez part 1, Eckstein and, of course, Womack.

And I expected some of that post to get nannied!

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