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Tuesday, November 07, 2017

Hall of Fame announces Modern Baseball Era ballot | SI.com

A whole smattering of MLB greats from the 1970s and 80s who missed out on election to the Baseball Hall of Fame on the writers’ ballots will get a second chance at a bronze plaque in Cooperstown. On Monday, the Hall of Fame announced the 10 men—nine players and one executive—who will be on the Modern Baseball Era ballot as part of the institution’s Era Committee vote, to be held at the Baseball Winter Meetings on Dec. 10. Among those who will be up for consideration: Jack Morris, Don Mattingly, Luis Tiant, Alan Trammell, Steve Garvey, and former MLBPA head Marvin Miller.

Jim Furtado Posted: November 07, 2017 at 11:21 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Khrushin it bro Posted: November 07, 2017 at 01:41 PM (#5572329)
Jack Morris! Did you guys know he threw a 10 inning shutout one time?
   2. ajnrules Posted: November 07, 2017 at 01:43 PM (#5572333)
I think Jack (The Jack) Morris will be the only one to get in. Trammell may get close, but I think he ultimately falls short. Nobody else will get three votes.
   3. QLE Posted: November 07, 2017 at 01:47 PM (#5572335)
I think Jack (The Jack) Morris will be the only one to get in. Trammell may get close, but I think he ultimately falls short. Nobody else will get three votes.


Marvin Miller came one vote short of induction in 2011, and, while his vote plunged in 2014, that was due largely to a factor (Cox, La Russa, and Torre all making the ballot at once) that will not apply in this situation.
   4. BDC Posted: November 07, 2017 at 02:12 PM (#5572354)
Jack Morris has inspired two HOF threads in the past two days here, and if that ain't fame, I give up.
   5. Man o' Schwar Posted: November 07, 2017 at 06:37 PM (#5572567)
My money is on Al Simmons, since he's already in.

(I assume they meant Ted Simmons.)
   6. Johnny Tuttle Posted: November 08, 2017 at 08:10 AM (#5572764)
Trammell and Whitaker are the class of this lot.
   7. RMc's Unenviable Situation Posted: November 08, 2017 at 10:18 AM (#5572815)
Trammell and Whitaker are the class of this lot.

Except Whitaker's not even on the damn ballot. The hell?

RMc's picks:

Steve Garvey -- No.
Tommy John -- Yes. 288 wins don't lie.
Don Mattingly -- Nope. Maybe someday, if he's more successful as a manager.
Marvin Miller -- Oh HELLS no.
Jack Morris -- Reluctantly, no.
Dale Murphy -- One foot in the Hall by the mid-90s, never quite got the other foot in. Nope.
Dave Parker -- Terrific peak in late 70s, not much else. No.
Ted Simmons -- Close, but no cigar.
Luis Tiant -- Hm. 66 WAR should get him in, but no rings, no CYA, only 3 ASG? Sorry, no.
Alan Trammell -- Oh HELLS yes.

And I'm writing in Whitaker, biatches!
   8. Tim D Posted: November 08, 2017 at 12:27 PM (#5572961)
List of HOF eligible players with more WAR than Whitaker that aren't in.

1. Bonds
2. Dahlen

End list.

Hopefully Trammell gets in and then eventually people will just become too embarrassed that Whitaker isn't in too. It would be nice if they went in together but that is apparently impossible. As I Tiger fan I can't say I would mind if Morris got in, but he's weak borderline at best.
   9. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: November 08, 2017 at 12:44 PM (#5572968)
Hopefully Trammell gets in and then eventually people will just become too embarrassed that Whitaker isn't in too. It would be nice if they went in together but that is apparently impossible. As I Tiger fan I can't say I would mind if Morris got in, but he's weak borderline at best.

Echoing what you are seeing, I hope a Trammell election leads to Whitaker being voted in as well. Also, if Morris makes it in, I hope to see it draw attention to John's & Tiant's exclusion since they are both better candidates.

Mainly I want to see multiple candidates elected so it greases the wheels for Dwight Evans, Bobby Grich, Lou Whitaker & others get in
   10. Rusty Priske Posted: November 08, 2017 at 12:54 PM (#5572981)
Trammell and Miller are the two absolutely-should-be-in-period from this ballot.

Murphy should also be in, but not quite the same slam dunk.

(And yes, Whitaker should be in as well, if he were ON the ballot.)

Who WILL get in? Morris and that is it.
   11. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: November 08, 2017 at 01:06 PM (#5572996)
It would be some enjoyable to see Trammell and Whitaker go in together, and if it takes throwing Morris in with them at the same time to make it this awesome Detroit-themed day, so be it.
   12. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: November 08, 2017 at 01:48 PM (#5573032)
My picks (and yes, I'm a bigger Hall guy)

Steve Garvey -- No. I'm an OBP guy. Great postseason numbers help but not as good a defensive first baseman as given credit for

Tommy John -- Yes. I agree 288 wins don't lie. Has just enough peak & longevity for me. Add in decent saber case & the whole Tommy John surgery thing

Don Mattingly -- one of the saddest things about growing up & getting smarter was letting go of Donnie Baseball as a HOFer. As much as I was a fan, he just didn't add much value post-1989. Like RMC, I hoped he'd pull a Torre & get in as mgr but he didn't get the NY job & managed LA when the roster was filled with millionaires with suspect character

Marvin Miller -- Oh heck yes haha. However, his exclusion draws more attention every few years than his election ever would

Jack Morris -- I'm at the just let this dude in stage with The Jack. I mean he suffered by near-missing election on the BBWAA ballot & if he draws 50-67% each time of these ballots he clogs up votes needed for more worthy guys who are overlooked so hopefully he gets in quick. As for if he's really worthy, well I don't think he's quite as far as WAR says but 3.90 ERA is awful high

Dale Murphy -- of all the turkeys we've seen get in, it wouldn't be horrible to see a borderline guy who's one of the good guys make it in. Plus if you buy that his fielding was a little better than what total zone says than he's further over the borderline. I'm not as passionate about Murphy as Trammell, Dewey Evans, Grich, & Whitaker but he's over the line for me

Dave Parker -- Agree with RMC: Terrific peak in late 70s, not much else. No. He rebounded a bit in 85 & was a decent elderstateman but like Garvey lacked OBP & his fielding wasn't as good as the Gold Gloves he won

Ted Simmons -- was a premier hitting catcher of 70s, overshadowed by Bench, Carter, & Munson. Simmons isn't slam dunk but he is over the line for me. It was shameful he didn't get at least 5% of the vote on the BBWAA ballot

Luis Tiant -- 66 WAR is a little higher than I'd have thought. I'd rank him between John & Morris. One of the great characters of his era and while borderline, he'd get my support

Alan Trammell -- the best overall player candidate eligible for this era. His stats were good enough, he should've got in as fast as Larkin did

Top four for me are: Trammell, Miller, John & Murphy just edging Simba & Tiant
   13. Johnny Tuttle Posted: November 08, 2017 at 10:11 PM (#5573298)
Whittaker would be 2nd on the ballot.
   14. EddieA Posted: November 08, 2017 at 10:46 PM (#5573303)
Bobby Bonds is stronger than most of these too. Agree he's not as famous as these other players, except for passing on good genes, and never won an MVP.
   15. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: November 09, 2017 at 08:25 AM (#5573351)
I'm not a Small Hall guy, but the only three people I'd put in are Trammell, Whitaker, and Miller.
   16. DL from MN Posted: November 09, 2017 at 10:48 AM (#5573431)
"institution's Era Committee vote, to be held at the Baseball Winter Meetings on Dec. 10."

I can do a mock ballot next week.
   17. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: November 09, 2017 at 11:20 AM (#5573478)
Glad to hear-thank you, DL

I'm enjoying seeing all this Whitaker support

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