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Sunday, May 26, 2013

Harper: Mets entire team is dreadful, not just Ike Davis

The Harper! Harper! Harper! Harper!...SHUT UP!

At this point the Ike Davis saga is little more than a symbolic sideshow. Yes, he should be in the minors by now, if only to throw a life preserver to a drowning hitter, but with each passing day, the debate matters less and less as the Mets sink into oblivion.

Suffice to say the Mets are as bad as the weather lately, and, of course, only one of the two is guaranteed to get better in the weeks ahead. Remember when Sandy Alderson insisted during the winter that he wasn’t punting on 2013? Well, it’s Memorial Day weekend, and the only race the Mets are in is the one to avoid the embarrassment of finishing behind the Triple-A Marlins.

Never mind punting. The season already feels like one long Hail Mary.

I mean, you knew the Mets had no shot of contending, but, Matt Harvey aside, did anybody really think they’d be this unwatchable?

... So the Mets lost two more games to the Braves on Saturday, 7-5 in the conclusion of the suspended game and 6-0 in the regular game, as Dillon Gee and his 6.34 ERA continued to make a case for Most Disappointing Met this season.

There is a lot of competition for that title, to be sure. The list starts with the first baseman, but has to include Ruben Tejada, Jon Niese and Shaun Marcum. It’s revealing that Lucas Duda doesn’t quite make that list even though he’s hitting .228 with 15 RBI.

Repoz Posted: May 26, 2013 at 07:15 AM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. bfan Posted: May 26, 2013 at 08:14 AM (#4452335)
It is surprising to see that the Mets are hitting better as a team than the Nationals (by OPS). If the Mets could find a 1B that could hit like the position should, they would not be that bad of a hitting team.
   2. AJMcCringleberry Posted: May 26, 2013 at 09:59 AM (#4452358)
It’s revealing that Lucas Duda doesn’t quite make that list even though he’s hitting .228 with 15 RBI.

It's more revealing that he thinks Duda's .351 OBP and .448 SLG is a disappointment.
   3. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: May 26, 2013 at 10:47 AM (#4452373)
This thread makes me happy.
   4. The District Attorney Posted: May 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM (#4452389)
Grantland also had a "the Mets are a boring, life-sucking disaster" article. What can I say, it's true. I wish they'd just play Valdespin in CF and Baxter in RF, but it's deck chairs.

Their sOPS+ by position:

C: 112, 1B: 21, 2B: 138, 3B: 137, SS: 62, LF: 123, CF: 67, RF: 61, DH: 149 (too bad it's 9 plate appearances), P: 69 (not much that can be done about that, I suppose), PH: 69
   5. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: May 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM (#4452409)
It has not been a good season for the Mets. The win total was always going to be low but the guys whose performance actually matters to the future of the team have mostly struggled. All we can hope for is that they can rebound the rest of the way.

It sounds like Wheeler is a few starts away from being called up. I guess that the Mets best hope for a quick turnaround for this franchise is a rotation comprised of Harvey, Wheeler, Syndergaard, and Montero eventually leading the team to success. Hoping for that much pitching to pan out isn't usually the best idea.
   6. billyshears Posted: May 26, 2013 at 12:23 PM (#4452411)
I expected the Mets to be bad, but not quite this bad. As Russlan points out, the season would look a lot better with just a few more wins if Davis, Tejada and Niese were performing reasonably well. It would also help if D'Arnaud was on the cusp of a call-up with Wheeler, instead of on the shelf.

On the flip side, their prospects are generally having nice seasons. Wheeler looks about ready, Montero and Syndegaard seem to be taking steps forward, and Puello and Vaughn are playing well enough to put themselves back in the conversation. Would be nice if Flores was hitting and Nimmo was playing though.
   7. bunyon Posted: May 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM (#4452416)
Ha! I thought it was Bryce Harper saying this and thought, whoa, this will get out of control.

Disappointed.
   8. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: May 26, 2013 at 12:54 PM (#4452419)
I like the idea of Bryce Harper's go-to insult being "dreadful".
   9. Dunn Deal Posted: May 26, 2013 at 01:11 PM (#4452425)
I like the idea of Bryce Harper's go-to insult being "dreadful".


"That's a dreadful question, bro."
   10. bobm Posted: May 26, 2013 at 01:56 PM (#4452441)
[4] From the link:

So let's not mince words: The 2013 Mets are a boring, life-sucking disaster. Their roster boasts the third-worst combined Wins Above Replacement in the major leagues, leading only the Marlins and the Astros — two teams that, by year's end, could be among the five worst teams in baseball history.


As is to be expected, given the payroll on the field of each of these teams.
   11. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 26, 2013 at 04:48 PM (#4452600)
The tabloids are really beating up on the Mets. This from the Daily News, and the Post had the "Roster of Rubbish" headline. I expect to see "Team of Trash" & "Club of Chaos" soon. Perhaps worse.
   12. depletion Posted: May 26, 2013 at 05:09 PM (#4452629)
"Nine of Nothingness", "Squad of Squalor".
Murphy, Wright and Harvey are good. Buck and Parnell have produced OK so far. Everyone else is bad.
   13. Karl from NY Posted: May 26, 2013 at 05:25 PM (#4452647)
I guess that the Mets best hope for a quick turnaround for this franchise is a rotation comprised of Harvey, Wheeler, Syndergaard, and Montero eventually leading the team to success. Hoping for that much pitching to pan out isn't usually the best idea.

Well, that pretty much is about the only way that a lousy team can turn around quickly, right? Get a crop of stud young pitchers coming up at the same time. The Rays of recent vintage, 2006 Tigers, Hudson-Mulder-Zito A's, even the '69 Mets. I don't see much of any other plan for the franchise at the moment, so putting hope in these pitchers probably is about the only choice we've got.
   14. Walt Davis Posted: May 26, 2013 at 06:00 PM (#4452673)
Aggregation of Atrocities
Band of Bedlam
(Club of Chaos)
Den of Disaster
Equipe d'Ennui
Force of Futility
Gang of Goofs
Horde of Horror
Institute of Incompetence
Jungle of Jerks (maybe the Post)
Klan of Klutzes (not even the Post)
List of Losers
Mob of Mistakes
(Nine of Nothingness)
Organization of Offal
Pool of Putrid
Quorom of Quislings
(Squad of Squalor)
(Team of Trash)
Union of Uselessness
Volume of Vincible
World of Waste
(oh oh)
   15. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: May 26, 2013 at 06:59 PM (#4452701)
Scariest stat about the Mets right now: If you remove Harvey from their totals, the team's ERA+ is 72. That's horrible.
   16. depletion Posted: May 26, 2013 at 08:40 PM (#4452744)
I heartily suggest NOT bringing Wheeler up this year, barring a major turnaround in the team's record. There is almost nothing to be gained. Perhaps they get 66 wins instead of 64. I don't want Wheeler's intro to the bigs to be in an empty stadium with the home crowd booing, garbage blowing aroung the infield. Hopefully next year the team will have enough salary off the books to get at least one above average free agent outfielder, a better bench and bullpen. The club will also have a better idea of which of the current team actually belongs in MLB.

Xanadu of Xylophones
Yurt of Yerks
Zoo of Zombies
   17. SteveM. Posted: May 26, 2013 at 08:54 PM (#4452751)
Cheer up Mets fans. Your team is at least better than the Marlins and Astros.
   18. The District Attorney Posted: May 26, 2013 at 08:58 PM (#4452753)
Yurt of Yerks
You could go old-school: Yoke of Yannigans.
   19. spike Posted: May 26, 2013 at 09:09 PM (#4452759)
Yard of Yobs
   20. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 26, 2013 at 09:23 PM (#4452763)
Cheer up Mets fans. Your team is at least better than the Marlins and Astros.


Right, so even if everything breaks perfectly wrong the Mets are looking at the #3 pick next year at best.
   21. nick swisher hygiene Posted: May 26, 2013 at 09:28 PM (#4452764)
"At this point the Ike Davis saga is little more than a symbolic shambolic sideshow"

missed yr opening there, Repoz....

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