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Monday, April 14, 2008

Harwell: Mick’s long single one for books

Amazing, Ernie Harwell uses Retrosheet…while Waldling still wait for their misinfo off the blinking Star Ball Player Electric Scoreboard at Times Square.

In my effort to verify my memory of the hit as a single, I encountered a few surprises. Ken Hirdt at Elias Sports Bureau, the official statistician of Major League Baseball, located the game and the precise date. His check of the official scorer’s report showed a double and a single for Mantle, not two doubles.

Ken’s info was confirmed by Dave Smith of Retrosheet. Dave sent me the game’s play-by-play and photo copies of the Yankees and Orioles scorebooks. These proved that Mantle’s first double came in the third inning, in which the Yankees failed to score. That meant his one RBI came on the ninth-inning hit and had to be a single. Also, the official play-by-play of that final inning said: “Mantle singled to centerfield and Martin scored.”

The Yankees scorekeeper also noted in his ninth-inning entry that Mantle’s hit “bounced once into cf bleachers.” There is no doubt the hit was a single. Yet, my fellow researchers and I have never been able to find a correction of the original story. In printed material, it is always a double.

But now, all of us have the proof.

It was not a double. Mantle’s game-winning hit was a 465-foot single, the longest in baseball history.

Repoz Posted: April 14, 2008 at 07:50 PM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: April 14, 2008 at 08:12 PM (#2743776)
Ernie Harwell rocks. Still.
   2. Big Train Posted: April 14, 2008 at 08:16 PM (#2743784)
I wonder how many balls the Mick hit which were hits or caught which were longer than 430 feet or so.
   3. gator92 Posted: April 14, 2008 at 08:40 PM (#2743822)
In 2006, Barry Bonds hit a ball a couple feet below the top of the 25 foot CF wall at Chase Field in Phoenix, and with his bad knees was held to a single on what would have been a 435 foot or so hit. Also that year David Ortiz hammered a long fly ball that hit a speaker at the Metrodome and dropped into short RCF for a single - that would have gone about 440-445 if not interrupted. But I can't say I've heard of anything as far as this Mantle one...

Given the way people like to embellish the Mick's blasts (which decidely don't need embellishment!), this may also be the most accurately measured long fly ball ever hit by Mantle, probably because it landed in plain view of more than one person. For the ones he hit over a fence and out of view, all realism goes out the window...
   4. KJOK Posted: April 14, 2008 at 10:22 PM (#2743891)
This is great, but WHY did the official scorer change it to a single?
   5. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: April 14, 2008 at 10:36 PM (#2743900)
This is great, but WHY did the official scorer change it to a single?


I assumed that Mick drove in the winning run and simply stopped running before he got to second base, Robin Ventura-style.
   6. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: April 14, 2008 at 10:39 PM (#2743902)
In cases other than home runs, the batter is only awarded the number of bases necessary for the winning run to score on a game-ending hit. If Martin had been on second, it would have been scored a double.

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