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Sunday, March 17, 2013

Haudricourt: Brewers could still land pitcher Kyle Lohse

Milwaukee band Get Rad’s latest album What the F*** Happened to Common Sense was prescient. 

But, you have to ask this question: Which major-league team would benefit most from adding Lohse to its starting rotation?

The Brewers would have to be at or near the top of that list, something that agent Scott Boras has reminded team owner Mark Attanasio more than once. The Brewers are committing to a group of inexperienced starting pitchers for 2013 on the hope that they will repeat their showing from the second half of last season.

 

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   1. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 17, 2013 at 10:12 AM (#4389774)
we should list all the things that doug melvin could do that would appear to be baseball related but not really help the team.

first crack: doug melvin could also hire sal bando as a consultant.
   2. McCoy Posted: March 17, 2013 at 10:17 AM (#4389778)
Doug Melvin could trade for Alfonso Soriano.
   3. The Fallen Reputation of Billy Jo Robidoux Posted: March 17, 2013 at 10:28 AM (#4389783)
Doug Melvin could tattoo BREW CREW on his knuckles.
   4. vivaelpujols Posted: March 17, 2013 at 10:31 AM (#4389784)
I support the Brewers giving the Cardinals a draft pick.
   5. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM (#4389803)
doug melvin could hold tryouts in iceland
   6. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: March 17, 2013 at 11:09 AM (#4389811)
Doug Melvin could tattoo BREW CREW on his knuckles.


That would be awesome. I think it would totally help the team.
   7. Drexl Spivey Posted: March 17, 2013 at 11:52 AM (#4389851)
Not even re-hiring Sal Bando would top giving up a first round pick to the Cards in order to make Lohse the next Suppan/Wolf veteran FA starter for the Brewers.

The only worse thing I can think of is pursuing legal action to void Braun's contract due to steroid concerns.
   8. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: March 17, 2013 at 01:16 PM (#4389896)
Doug Melvin could trade for Alfonso Soriano.

How do we know he's available?
   9. base ball chick Posted: March 17, 2013 at 02:43 PM (#4389956)
will be very interesting to see if lohse gets a contract at all for even one year
   10. cardsfanboy Posted: March 17, 2013 at 03:24 PM (#4389978)
will be very interesting to see if lohse gets a contract at all for even one year


He'll get a contract the day after the draft for one year, that is pretty much a given.
   11. Rennie's Tenet Posted: March 17, 2013 at 03:26 PM (#4389979)
Can Lohse be signed by the Cards and then immediately traded, or does the rule prevent that?
   12. JJ1986 Posted: March 17, 2013 at 03:29 PM (#4389980)
He'll get a contract the day after the draft for one year, that is pretty much a given.


If the draft pick is really the problem, he should just sign with the Indians for one year. Missing half a season probably won't help his 2014 contract.
   13. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 17, 2013 at 03:39 PM (#4389983)
i am surprised that boras isn't threatening legal action of some kind.

if he has and i missed my apologies
   14. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: March 17, 2013 at 03:54 PM (#4389994)
I don't think there's much Boras could legally do about something that's spelled out in the CBA.
   15. Walt Davis Posted: March 17, 2013 at 04:33 PM (#4390018)
I don't think there's much Boras could legally do about something that's spelled out in the CBA.

And since Lohse could have accepted the Cards' offer.

I suppose if this keeps happening to players then we could see a collusion case -- i.e. teams regularly passing on compensated FAs, forcing those FAs to accept the qualifying offers, sort of a free team option year. I could also see the rule being tweaked to say that it doesn't apply to players over a certain age or a certain level of service time. Lohse is 34 with 11 years of service time, he's not really the kind of guy you expect to get a qualifying offer and he's not really the kind of guy the rule is designed for.
   16. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 17, 2013 at 04:37 PM (#4390026)
zeth

i didn't think boras let minor things like the cba stand in his way

ha, ha.
   17. bobm Posted: March 17, 2013 at 05:10 PM (#4390055)
Did this ever have its own thread?

Mark Feinsand
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Even w/ Kyle Lohse still waiting in free agency, [MLBPA chief] Weiner said the new qualifying offer system was mostly a success:


“It worked well in some respects and it didn’t work well in others. Reducing the number of players that carried direct compensation to nine from over 30 is a big improvement from our perspective. It’s not surprising that Hamilton didn’t have a problem, but maybe it’s surprising to you that Swisher didn’t have a problem or Upton or others. 

"LaRoche got a good contract, but his market wasn’t what he expected it to be. Bourn got a good contract, but his market wasn’t what he expected it to be. Lohse essentially pitched like a No. 1 the last couple years and he’s still out there. That’s of concern. 

"While neither us nor the commissioner’s office have any legal obligation to bargain over that issue over the term of the basic agreement, I don’t think it was the intention of either side that you would have a player and you’d have clubs that would be interested in securing that player and be happy paying that player his salary, but would be stopped from doing it by compensation. That really wasn’t the intention.

 "I can’t promise you that we’re going to be able to rectify it, but I know there will be discussions. It’s mostly good, but that part of it hasn’t worked out the way that we expected.”


http://sulia.com/channel/new-york-yankees/f/c5dc06e7-d699-4952-89a6-392c45ba6b91
   18. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: March 22, 2013 at 03:50 PM (#4394508)
I am surprised Harveys did not mention trading for his good friend Ned Yost to return as manager.
   19. Nasty Nate Posted: March 22, 2013 at 03:56 PM (#4394512)
Reducing the number of players that carried direct compensation to nine from over 30 is a big improvement from our perspective.


People never seem to mention all the players that got MORE money this off-season.
   20. Nasty Nate Posted: March 22, 2013 at 04:04 PM (#4394517)
I suppose if this keeps happening to players then we could see a collusion case


But doesn't "this" just consist of a player not liking any of the offers he was getting?
   21. JJ1986 Posted: March 26, 2013 at 03:35 PM (#4396974)
He could sign Yuniesky Betancourt to a major league deal.
   22. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: March 26, 2013 at 03:41 PM (#4396978)
He could sign Yuniesky Betancourt to a major league deal.

D'oh.

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