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Trade deadline catch-all thread.

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   201. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4197435)
I suppose that beats a supp pick. Would have rather had Delgado, but Dempster screwed us out of that. Now, hopefully he stinks up Arlington and only Atlanta offers him a contract this winter.
A "Jarrod Washburn Special," in other words?
   202. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4197436)
Royals acquire AAA Lefty Donnie Joseph and AA righty JC Sulbaran for Broxton, and Rany Jazayerli is thrilled to death about it.
   203. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:21 PM (#4197438)
Mission accomplished!
But for Arizona, what's the point, other than to harass a division rival?
   204. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:21 PM (#4197439)
Hendricks has 21 walks in 41 career minor league games (21 starts). Twins should be all over him.
   205. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:23 PM (#4197440)

Royals acquire AAA Lefty Donnie Joseph and AA righty JC Sulbaran for Broxton, and Rany Jazayerli is thrilled to death about it.


It has a chance to rival Tim Collins/Gregor Blanco/Jesse Chavez for Kyle Farnsworth/Rick Ankiel as the greatest trade of the Dayton Moore era.
   206. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4197442)
Sean McAdam tweets that Lars Anderson was traded to CLE.
   207. just plain joe Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4197443)
I don't think you can tread water while in a waterfall.


Chuck Norris could, if he wanted to.
   208. zonk Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4197444)
Hendricks has 21 walks in 41 career minor league games (21 starts). Twins should be all over him.


His K rate ain't too shabby either (8.1/9 over his career, 112 in 130 IP this year).

Villanueva is the prize here, I think, but I'm satisfied with this haul... not thrilled, but satisfied.
   209. Dan Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4197445)
Sean McAdam tweets that Lars Anderson was traded to CLE.


Presumably for Brent Lillibridge.
   210. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:28 PM (#4197446)
Kevin Goldstein:

Amazing trade for Royals. I might rather have Donnie Joseph than Broxton in the big leagues right now.
   211. thetailor Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:30 PM (#4197449)
Is this the best trading deadline ever? Of recent memory? Tons of moves!
   212. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:31 PM (#4197450)
PHX radio: No interest in Stephen Drew.
   213. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:31 PM (#4197451)
What's so great about Villanueva? Honest question... my only familiarity with him is just now glancing at his BBRef page.
   214. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:32 PM (#4197452)
Is this the best trading deadline ever? Of recent memory? Tons of moves!
2004 was fun, highlighted by the LoDuca+Mota-for-Penny+Choi heart-vs-stats throwdown.
   215. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:33 PM (#4197457)
The Red Sox get knuckleballer Steve Wright from the Indians.
   216. Dan Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:34 PM (#4197459)
Just feels like kind of a meh trade deadline to me. There were a lot of moves, but no real marquee players moving or anything. There really weren't any deals that I read about and said, "holy ####, that's a huge upgrade" for anyone.
   217. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:34 PM (#4197460)
Sickels on Villanueva:

Signee out of Mexico plays above his tools but does it very well, produces power and speed, sharp defensive skills at third base. Will have to see if plate discipline holds up.


Ranked 10th in the org pre-season.
   218. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:35 PM (#4197462)
2004 was also the Nomar trade. If I remember right, that one snuck in right before the deadline.
   219. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:36 PM (#4197463)
2004 was also the Nomar trade. If I remember right, that one snuck in right before the deadline.
Wasn't 2004 also the Kazmir-Zambrano deal?
   220. JJ1986 Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:36 PM (#4197464)
2004 was the worst deadline.
   221. Swedish Chef Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:36 PM (#4197465)
It's Qualls for McGehee and cash. I assume the cash is in Zimbabwe dollars to make all parts of the trade equally worthless.
   222. Randy Jones Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:37 PM (#4197466)
Wait, the Yankees are getting cash in a trade with the Pirates?
   223. thetailor Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:37 PM (#4197468)
Pence, Dempster, Victorino, even Snider/Lincoln interests me because it involves the Pirates. I'm counting Hanley in this too because it just happened.
   224. formerly dp Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:38 PM (#4197469)
There were a lot of moves, but no real marquee players moving or anything.


It wasn't quite the deadline, but Hanley trading hands was pretty big.

I agree though-- Cliff Lee stayed put, ditto Upton, Garza and Johnson...not a ton of fun, but at least there were lots of pieces moving.
   225. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:38 PM (#4197470)
Wasn't 2004 also the Kazmir-Zambrano deal?
Yes, leading to the establishment, following my suggestion, of a Mets fan self-immolation thread. I remain proud of that.
   226. zonk Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:38 PM (#4197471)
What's so great about Villanueva? Honest question... my only familiarity with him is just now glancing at his BBRef page.


I think Sickels had him as a potential 2012 "breakout candidate" in one of his offseason pieces... His line hasn't quite broke him out, but he's having a fine year. He's young - just 20 - signed at 17 out of Mexico. Very good defensively, more than enough glove to stick at 3B, but with the Rangers crowded on the left-side of the IF, talk that he might eventually slide over to 2B. Good speed/power combo, supposedly plus tools across the board... a little like Brett Jackson in that he's fast, but not a blazer, has good power, but not light-tower power, and even has well above average plate awareness for his profile.

Waaaayyyy back when the trade talk was starting -- Villanueva was one of the guys I wanted when I wasn't playing make believe with a Perez or Profar.

I think he's got a nonzero chance to be Terry Pendleton.
   227. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:38 PM (#4197472)
Wait, the Yankees are getting cash in a trade with the Pirates?
OH MY GOD, THE MAYANS WERE RIGHT.
   228. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:40 PM (#4197474)
Hanley trading hands was pretty big.


Whose hands did he get?
   229. Danny Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4197476)
Is this the best trading deadline ever?

I think it sucks.
   230. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4197477)
The Podsednik Adventure still afloat - who knew?
   231. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:45 PM (#4197481)
Whose hands did he get?
For the sake of both him and LA, hopefully someone who can play defense. I assume Rey Ordonez could get by with Hanley's.
   232. zonk Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:47 PM (#4197483)
Here's Sickels on Villanueva...


People who follow Rangers prospects closely are familiar with this guy, but he's still also has a under-the-radar somewhat nationally and deserves more attention than he's received. Signed out of Mexico in 2008, he demonstrated a fine power/speed game in the Sally League last year, hitting 17 homers and stealing 32 bases with an overall .278/.338/.465 line. Scouts like his swing and he has decent plate discipline, plus he's just 20 years old. He also has a very strong glove at third base, although the Rangers are crowded at that position and he may end up playing second base in the long run. Villanueva has an impressive combination of youth, tools, and skills and could break through in a big way this year.
   233. hokieneer Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:52 PM (#4197484)
Kevin Goldstein:

Amazing trade for Royals. I might rather have Donnie Joseph than Broxton in the big leagues right now.


Yep, Joseph was a lot to give up for Broxton. I loved the deal when it was first reported as just Sulbaran, now blah.
   234. Dan Posted: July 31, 2012 at 04:55 PM (#4197488)
Whose hands did he get?


The Robot Devil's.
   235. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:00 PM (#4197492)
I think it sucks.


Yeah, this year doesn't seem very impressive to me. No real holy #### trades, no real marquee players (I guess Pence or Ramirez, but they're not really what they once were), not all that much talent moving around.
   236. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:03 PM (#4197496)
Conflicting reports from different writers... Dempster is either a Yankee or a Ranger.


Until we collapsed the waveform, I think he was both.
   237. zonk Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:05 PM (#4197497)
Conflicting reports from different writers... Dempster is either a Yankee or a Ranger.




Until we collapsed the waveform, I think he was both.


I don't think we did anything - only Ryan's tears can resolve that little Schrodinger's cat...
   238. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:05 PM (#4197498)
As I said in another thread, too much success would be a bad thing for the A's. Anything that might make people come to the games. While I doubt the FO is upset that the team is in contention, doing anything to further that cause is not part of the business plan.

Kottaras was just the right sized bone.


Kottaras is 29 and has spent four years cementing his status as a backup. If that's the kind of bone that A's fans want to be thrown, they must be as desperate as those people in "The Gulag Archipelago" who were excavating a river that had been frozen for thousands of years, uncovered some extinct salamanders and immediately ate them.
   239. Willie Mayspedester Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:05 PM (#4197499)
Yeah, this year doesn't seem very impressive to me. No real holy #### trades, no real marquee players (I guess Pence or Ramirez, but they're not really what they once were), not all that much talent moving around.


Grienke is pretty good.
   240. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4197500)
An hour after the deadline, some beat writers are passing along trade news as if it is still news. It's kind of cute.
   241. Dan Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4197502)
I could be wrong, but I think we could see a really active trade market during August with some players on large enough contracts to slip through waivers.
   242. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:09 PM (#4197504)
Grienke is pretty good.


I forgot about Greinke!

I'm still not that impressed, but less not impressed. Pressed.
   243. zonk Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:10 PM (#4197505)
I could be wrong, but I think we could see a really active trade market during August with some players on large enough contracts to slip through waivers.


The Soriano-Tigers deal was being talked about for one -- the Cubs/Tigers were supposedly close, but with the Dempster madness and the fact that Soriano would glide through waivers with ease, word is that they figured no harm in putting it off.
   244. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:10 PM (#4197506)
I could be wrong, but I think we could see a really active trade market during August with some players on large enough contracts to slip through waivers.

There was talk that the Alfonso Soriano to the Tigers talk will be put on hold until after the deadline when he will clear waivers, so that the Cubs could spend their precious minutes taking care of Dempster.

EDIT: coke to zonk.
   245. Willie Mayspedester Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:13 PM (#4197507)
Would Rollins clear waivers?
   246. zonk Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4197510)
What are the PTBNL rules?

Can teams legitimately just "decide on" the player, but not announce him until the postseason? I can't imagine it's like the Cubs are getting Castellanos for Soriano -- but at the same time, it's got to be a bit nerve-wracking to have a guy you want not really be "yours" until the season is over... leaving all sorts of room for injury or instruction you don't like.
   247. asinwreck Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4197511)
The Yankee deal was just one way in which the Pirates improved their offense today. Travis Snider and Gaby Sanchez are -- even if they do exactly what they've done the past month or so -- substantial improvements over the offensive sinkholes Clint Hurdle had been penciling into the lineup.

Best WTF moment was seeing Pods get dealt. Why was Kevin Towers interested?
   248. asinwreck Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4197513)

The Soriano-Tigers deal was being talked about for one -- the Cubs/Tigers were supposedly close, but with the Dempster madness and the fact that Soriano would glide through waivers with ease


Note to Kenny Williams -- do NOT think about it.
   249. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:23 PM (#4197515)
Joe Sheehan spent about 15 minutes on his last podcast episode talking about how sickening it was that the Marlins traded their "competitive balance" draft pick for the Tigers' "competitive balance" draft pick. I did not know what his point was, but maybe he had one. Now the Marlins have also acquired the Pirates' "competitive balance" draft pick in the Sanchez/Hernandez trade. It's still not clear why the "competitive balance" draft picks were made tradeable, but the fact that the Marlins are the team most excited to exchange them means it's probably a bad thing.

Oh, and I am overjoyed that the Pirates got something for Gorky's Zygotic Hernandez. When he was acquired for Nate McLouth three or four years ago it was already clear that he could not hit enough to play in the majors.

Since then he's gone from 5 home runs a season at AA to 2 home runs a season at AAA. At least he's stayed consistent with a strikeout every game, a walk every 5 games, and lots of SB and CS.
   250. Steve Treder Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:30 PM (#4197520)
What are the PTBNL rules?

Can teams legitimately just "decide on" the player, but not announce him until the postseason?


I don't see why not. I'm pretty sure it's just whatever the teams agree upon.

And I'm pretty sure that the way it usually goes is that the teams agree upon a short list, say 3 or 4 players, and within an agreed-upon time frame the "getting" team decides which one they'll take. So if their #1 choice gets hurt, they can take someone else.
   251. zonk Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:30 PM (#4197521)
Well, this could explain the Rangers' late entrance into the Dempster derby: Neftali Perez was scratched from a rehab start and Texas has announced he has a torn UCL and will undergo TJ surgery in a week.
   252. zonk Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:47 PM (#4197532)
I don't see why not. I'm pretty sure it's just whatever the teams agree upon.

And I'm pretty sure that the way it usually goes is that the teams agree upon a short list, say 3 or 4 players, and within an agreed-upon time frame the "getting" team decides which one they'll take. So if their #1 choice gets hurt, they can take someone else.


I guess I'm more wondering about whether the acquiring team has -- even if it's just under-the-table talk -- any modicum of 'control' over the players in question... If it's a pitcher, can the acquiring team ask that the selling team employ a stricter pitch count? Ask that player X start or relieve, or be shifted to a different position?
   253. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: July 31, 2012 at 05:57 PM (#4197539)
I didn't understand the Chad Qualls thing when the Yankees got him, and I don't understand why the Pirates want him.

*double-checks bb-ref*

Nope, still don't get it.
   254. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: July 31, 2012 at 06:04 PM (#4197544)
Apparently, the Yankees were going to DFA Qualls when Joba came back, and so they were able to get a player for him. In that context, getting a non-embarassing 1B for a week or so is a decent haul.
   255. villageidiom Posted: July 31, 2012 at 06:07 PM (#4197546)
I could be wrong, but I think we could see a really active trade market during August with some players on large enough contracts to slip through waivers.
I just noted this in another thread: Boston's deadline deals have managed to free up two spots on the 40-man roster, and their poor record as of today has them in decent position for waiver claims.
   256. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: July 31, 2012 at 06:11 PM (#4197547)
If you roll Ichiro and Greinke into today, I think it was an above-average trade deadline day.

And this is a lot better than when the deadline was midnight EDT. Trades took place after virtually everyone went to bed in the East.
   257. Steve Treder Posted: July 31, 2012 at 06:13 PM (#4197548)
If it's a pitcher, can the acquiring team ask that the selling team employ a stricter pitch count? Ask that player X start or relieve, or be shifted to a different position?

I suspect the acquiring team can ask anything they want, but the issue is whether the other team will agree, and whether the acquiring team has any capacity to enforce the terms of their request in any case. My guess is it's a whole lot simpler for everyone to just agree upon a short list of players and let the acquiring team decide which one they want when they're ready to make the transfer.
   258. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: July 31, 2012 at 06:24 PM (#4197554)
I'd rather have gorkys and the pick than gaby.
Even if I'm Pittsburgh and badly need a 1b.
   259. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: July 31, 2012 at 07:32 PM (#4197587)
Sean McAdam tweets that Lars Anderson was traded to CLE.


I'm happy for Lars. I've always liked him and it was clear he needed a change of scenery if he was going to do anything in MLB. Cleveland seems like the ideal spot for him. They're pretty much out of it, Kotchman is busy proving that 2011 was a fluke, and Damon is looking awfully toasty. So there's no reason not to play Lars and see if he has any potential as a Major Leaguer.
   260. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 31, 2012 at 08:35 PM (#4197637)
Heh, the depleted Phillies knock around Strasburg for 6 runs/8 hits in 4 innings. Rollins got an inside the park HR when Harper's cleats got tangled in the mesh. It looked scary for Harper for a minute but I think he's okay.
   261. Sunday silence Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:09 PM (#4197656)
Posted: July 31, 2012 at 06:04 PM (#4197544)

Apparently, the Yankees were going to DFA Qualls when Joba came back, and so they were able to get a player for him. In that context, getting a non-embarassing 1B for a week or so is a decent haul.


OK but why do the Pirates want Qualls?
   262. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:27 PM (#4197664)
The Blue Jays are betting that pitchers moving from the NL Central to the AL East is a market inefficiency.
   263. McCoy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:37 PM (#4197668)
Heh, the depleted Phillies knock around Strasburg for 6 runs/8 hits in 4 innings. Rollins got an inside the park HR when Harper's cleats got tangled in the mesh. It looked scary for Harper for a minute but I think he's okay.

And the new Cubs getting no-hit through 15 outs.
   264. McCoy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:39 PM (#4197669)
Now 3 innings to go.
   265. Kiko Sakata Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:45 PM (#4197674)
getting a non-embarassing 1B for a week or so is a decent haul.


McGehee's OPS+ the last two years is 69 and 88 with sub-.300 OBPs both years. Even granting that "non-embarassing" is an exceptionally low bar, I'm not sure McGehee clears it.
   266. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 31, 2012 at 09:55 PM (#4197688)
After acquiring Gary Sanchez, Casey McGehee was a lot more expandable, especially with Garrett Jones around. Maybe they planned on DFA'ing him before they talked to the Yankees.
   267. Kiko Sakata Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:04 PM (#4197698)
Maybe they planned on DFA'ing him before they talked to the Yankees.


That's what that trade looked like to me: two teams trading away guys they were about to DFA anyway.
   268. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4197703)
What may have made this trade deadline unexciting for some was the lack of top prospects that went to new teams. Teams no longer value impending free agents because there are no draft picks (let alone two!) that can be gained from letting them go. Jacob Turner got moved but what other big-name prospects were traded? Does Jean Segura count? The guys the Rangers gave up for Ryan Dempster? Tommy Joseph? Nathan Eovaldi? I'm no prospect mavin, but I do know the top 30 or so names, and more for the teams I follow. But I never heard of any of these guys other than Turner before this week.

For all of the restocking teams like the Astros, Cubs, and Phillies were doing, they didn't get a lot of exciting brand names. Maybe that's why it feels a little underwhelming.

EDIT: Rangers 3B Mike Olt was a name that got named a lot in twitter/mlbtraderumors. He's practically a household name now, but he didn't get moved, either.
   269. McCoy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:13 PM (#4197704)
All I know is that the payroll for the Cubs next year is going to be really low and they are going to really suck.
   270. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:19 PM (#4197710)
Cheer up, you have Kyle Hendricks and Jacob Brigham!
   271. McCoy Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:28 PM (#4197723)
Yeah.
   272. just plain joe Posted: July 31, 2012 at 10:32 PM (#4197729)
Heh, the depleted Phillies knock around Strasburg for 6 runs/8 hits in 4 innings


That figures, I just traded for him on my Roto team.

   273. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: August 01, 2012 at 01:21 AM (#4197790)
The Red Sox get knuckleballer Steve Wright from the Indians.


I was sad because I had no knuckleball, but then I met a man with no hands. So I asked him if he had any knuckleballs he wasn't using.
   274. madvillain Posted: August 01, 2012 at 02:55 AM (#4197805)
And there's no hurry on him. He's the most likely player in baseball history to pass through waivers.


Teams aren't dumb, if a team needs him, they will make the claim. Of course, then they usually have to make a trade, and give up at least token value. It's unusual for a straight claim to go through, but Chicago claimed Alex Rios off waivers straight up.

What teams in contention needs a corner OF bat or DH? On Chicago, Viciedo isn't great shakes (on pace for about 1 war), but he's young and has potential, no way they bench him this late. As for Rios, well, dude leads the team in WAR for position players and is making his salary a bargain.
   275. MM1f Posted: August 01, 2012 at 03:05 AM (#4197806)
Teams aren't dumb, if a team needs him, they will make the claim. Of course, then they usually have to make a trade, and give up at least token value. It's unusual for a straight claim to go through, but Chicago claimed Alex Rios off waivers straight up.


You're right. Teams aren't dumb. Thus, NO ONE will put in a claim on Soriano. NO ONE. Even if they "need" him. Because NO ONE needs to pay Soriano 40-ish million over the next 2.5 years. If you claim Soriano on waivers the Cubs will let you have him and, as a result, you must now pay Soriano every cent he is owed thru October 2014.

Original post was right. Soriano is a 100% mortal lock to pass through waivers unclaimed.
   276. madvillain Posted: August 01, 2012 at 03:23 AM (#4197807)

You're right. Teams aren't dumb. Thus, NO ONE will put in a claim on Soriano. NO ONE. Even if they "need" him. Because NO ONE needs to pay Soriano 40-ish million over the next 2.5 years. If you claim Soriano on waivers the Cubs will let you have him and, as a result, you must now pay Soriano every cent he is owed thru October 2014.

Original post was right. Soriano is a 100% mortal lock to pass through waivers unclaimed


Aren't GMs allowed to agree to a trade before the waiver is processed? Can Dave Dombrowski call Theo and go listen, "I need __________ million and I'll take him" and Theo can agree and then the teams can do the deal?
   277. zonk Posted: August 01, 2012 at 08:38 AM (#4197850)
Aren't GMs allowed to agree to a trade before the waiver is processed? Can Dave Dombrowski call Theo and go listen, "I need __________ million and I'll take him" and Theo can agree and then the teams can do the deal?


Sure - but the player still has to pass down to the team wanting to trade for him. I don't think a team can 'oopsie' a waiver claim, either -- as in, I don't think you can place a claim and then change your mind. If anyone claims Soriano - then Thed will basically say "my work here is done"*

*That said, in the how can I make Dempster pay for this outrage thread -- I believe we settled on the CBA and 10/5 rights still having a role here... Soriano, as a guy with 10/5 rights, can basically invalidate a claim by refusing to go to the claiming team. So in effect, he's doubly certain to pass through waivers -- there are apparently a few teams that he's OK with going to (Detroit being one for some odd reason). The best possible result would probably be one of those teams making a surprise claim - in which case, I doubt the Cubs would shed tears over whatever lukewarm lottery tix they would get from a trading partner.
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