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It has a chance to rival Tim Collins/Gregor Blanco/Jesse Chavez for Kyle Farnsworth/Rick Ankiel as the greatest trade of the Dayton Moore era.
Chuck Norris could, if he wanted to.
His K rate ain't too shabby either (8.1/9 over his career, 112 in 130 IP this year).
Villanueva is the prize here, I think, but I'm satisfied with this haul... not thrilled, but satisfied.
Presumably for Brent Lillibridge.
Ranked 10th in the org pre-season.
It wasn't quite the deadline, but Hanley trading hands was pretty big.
I agree though-- Cliff Lee stayed put, ditto Upton, Garza and Johnson...not a ton of fun, but at least there were lots of pieces moving.
I think Sickels had him as a potential 2012 "breakout candidate" in one of his offseason pieces... His line hasn't quite broke him out, but he's having a fine year. He's young - just 20 - signed at 17 out of Mexico. Very good defensively, more than enough glove to stick at 3B, but with the Rangers crowded on the left-side of the IF, talk that he might eventually slide over to 2B. Good speed/power combo, supposedly plus tools across the board... a little like Brett Jackson in that he's fast, but not a blazer, has good power, but not light-tower power, and even has well above average plate awareness for his profile.
Waaaayyyy back when the trade talk was starting -- Villanueva was one of the guys I wanted when I wasn't playing make believe with a Perez or Profar.
I think he's got a nonzero chance to be Terry Pendleton.
Whose hands did he get?
I think it sucks.
Yep, Joseph was a lot to give up for Broxton. I loved the deal when it was first reported as just Sulbaran, now blah.
The Robot Devil's.
Yeah, this year doesn't seem very impressive to me. No real holy #### trades, no real marquee players (I guess Pence or Ramirez, but they're not really what they once were), not all that much talent moving around.
Until we collapsed the waveform, I think he was both.
I don't think we did anything - only Ryan's tears can resolve that little Schrodinger's cat...
Kottaras was just the right sized bone.
Kottaras is 29 and has spent four years cementing his status as a backup. If that's the kind of bone that A's fans want to be thrown, they must be as desperate as those people in "The Gulag Archipelago" who were excavating a river that had been frozen for thousands of years, uncovered some extinct salamanders and immediately ate them.
Grienke is pretty good.
I forgot about Greinke!
I'm still not that impressed, but less not impressed. Pressed.
The Soriano-Tigers deal was being talked about for one -- the Cubs/Tigers were supposedly close, but with the Dempster madness and the fact that Soriano would glide through waivers with ease, word is that they figured no harm in putting it off.
There was talk that the Alfonso Soriano to the Tigers talk will be put on hold until after the deadline when he will clear waivers, so that the Cubs could spend their precious minutes taking care of Dempster.
EDIT: coke to zonk.
Can teams legitimately just "decide on" the player, but not announce him until the postseason? I can't imagine it's like the Cubs are getting Castellanos for Soriano -- but at the same time, it's got to be a bit nerve-wracking to have a guy you want not really be "yours" until the season is over... leaving all sorts of room for injury or instruction you don't like.
Best WTF moment was seeing Pods get dealt. Why was Kevin Towers interested?
Note to Kenny Williams -- do NOT think about it.
Oh, and I am overjoyed that the Pirates got something for Gorky's Zygotic Hernandez. When he was acquired for Nate McLouth three or four years ago it was already clear that he could not hit enough to play in the majors.
Since then he's gone from 5 home runs a season at AA to 2 home runs a season at AAA. At least he's stayed consistent with a strikeout every game, a walk every 5 games, and lots of SB and CS.
Can teams legitimately just "decide on" the player, but not announce him until the postseason?
I don't see why not. I'm pretty sure it's just whatever the teams agree upon.
And I'm pretty sure that the way it usually goes is that the teams agree upon a short list, say 3 or 4 players, and within an agreed-upon time frame the "getting" team decides which one they'll take. So if their #1 choice gets hurt, they can take someone else.
I guess I'm more wondering about whether the acquiring team has -- even if it's just under-the-table talk -- any modicum of 'control' over the players in question... If it's a pitcher, can the acquiring team ask that the selling team employ a stricter pitch count? Ask that player X start or relieve, or be shifted to a different position?
*double-checks bb-ref*
Nope, still don't get it.
And this is a lot better than when the deadline was midnight EDT. Trades took place after virtually everyone went to bed in the East.
I suspect the acquiring team can ask anything they want, but the issue is whether the other team will agree, and whether the acquiring team has any capacity to enforce the terms of their request in any case. My guess is it's a whole lot simpler for everyone to just agree upon a short list of players and let the acquiring team decide which one they want when they're ready to make the transfer.
Even if I'm Pittsburgh and badly need a 1b.
I'm happy for Lars. I've always liked him and it was clear he needed a change of scenery if he was going to do anything in MLB. Cleveland seems like the ideal spot for him. They're pretty much out of it, Kotchman is busy proving that 2011 was a fluke, and Damon is looking awfully toasty. So there's no reason not to play Lars and see if he has any potential as a Major Leaguer.
OK but why do the Pirates want Qualls?
And the new Cubs getting no-hit through 15 outs.
McGehee's OPS+ the last two years is 69 and 88 with sub-.300 OBPs both years. Even granting that "non-embarassing" is an exceptionally low bar, I'm not sure McGehee clears it.
That's what that trade looked like to me: two teams trading away guys they were about to DFA anyway.
For all of the restocking teams like the Astros, Cubs, and Phillies were doing, they didn't get a lot of exciting brand names. Maybe that's why it feels a little underwhelming.
EDIT: Rangers 3B Mike Olt was a name that got named a lot in twitter/mlbtraderumors. He's practically a household name now, but he didn't get moved, either.
That figures, I just traded for him on my Roto team.
I was sad because I had no knuckleball, but then I met a man with no hands. So I asked him if he had any knuckleballs he wasn't using.
Teams aren't dumb, if a team needs him, they will make the claim. Of course, then they usually have to make a trade, and give up at least token value. It's unusual for a straight claim to go through, but Chicago claimed Alex Rios off waivers straight up.
What teams in contention needs a corner OF bat or DH? On Chicago, Viciedo isn't great shakes (on pace for about 1 war), but he's young and has potential, no way they bench him this late. As for Rios, well, dude leads the team in WAR for position players and is making his salary a bargain.
You're right. Teams aren't dumb. Thus, NO ONE will put in a claim on Soriano. NO ONE. Even if they "need" him. Because NO ONE needs to pay Soriano 40-ish million over the next 2.5 years. If you claim Soriano on waivers the Cubs will let you have him and, as a result, you must now pay Soriano every cent he is owed thru October 2014.
Original post was right. Soriano is a 100% mortal lock to pass through waivers unclaimed.
Aren't GMs allowed to agree to a trade before the waiver is processed? Can Dave Dombrowski call Theo and go listen, "I need __________ million and I'll take him" and Theo can agree and then the teams can do the deal?
Sure - but the player still has to pass down to the team wanting to trade for him. I don't think a team can 'oopsie' a waiver claim, either -- as in, I don't think you can place a claim and then change your mind. If anyone claims Soriano - then Thed will basically say "my work here is done"*
*That said, in the how can I make Dempster pay for this outrage thread -- I believe we settled on the CBA and 10/5 rights still having a role here... Soriano, as a guy with 10/5 rights, can basically invalidate a claim by refusing to go to the claiming team. So in effect, he's doubly certain to pass through waivers -- there are apparently a few teams that he's OK with going to (Detroit being one for some odd reason). The best possible result would probably be one of those teams making a surprise claim - in which case, I doubt the Cubs would shed tears over whatever lukewarm lottery tix they would get from a trading partner.
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