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Sunday, September 29, 2013

Henderson Alvarez closes Miami Marlins’ season with no-hitter

It was a crazy ending to an abysmal season.

Henderson Alvarez pitched the fifth no-hitter in Marlins history, but didn’t know it until a wild pitch in the bottom of the ninth scored the game’s only run in a 1-0 victory over the Detroit Tigers.
[...]
Alvarez became the first pitcher since Virgil Trucks in 1952 to pitch a complete game no-hitter that was decided on a walk-off play. He also became the first pitcher since Mike Witt in 1984 to toss a no-hitter on the final day of the regular season.

That’s one way to handle Fan Appreciation Day…

Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 29, 2013 at 06:51 PM | 40 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: florida, general, history, marlins, milestone, no-hitters

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   1. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: September 29, 2013 at 07:19 PM (#4554186)
That Witt game was a perfecto. I was 12 and had met him at a signing at a local mall a few months earlier.

I was ESTATIC when he threw the perfect game. He was my favorite Angel from then until he went away in 1989 or 1990. Loved his curve. It was a great pitch.

</angelhijack>
   2. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: September 29, 2013 at 07:54 PM (#4554202)
Well, if it wasn't true before (it was), it's definitely true now: no-hitters have jumped the shark.
   3. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: September 29, 2013 at 08:05 PM (#4554207)
"This doesn't mean anything," I keep saying to myself. "The Tigers will hit in the playoffs. This doesn't mean anything...!"
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: September 29, 2013 at 08:20 PM (#4554216)
Well, if it wasn't true before (it was), it's definitely true now: no-hitters have jumped the shark.


Huh? That ninth inning was fun as hell.
   5. bobm Posted: September 29, 2013 at 08:30 PM (#4554222)
http//www.miamiherald.com/2013/09/29/3659346/walkoff-no-hitters.html

Walkoff No-Hitters
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Sept. 29, 2013 — Henderson Alvarez, Miami vs. Detroit, 1-0, Luke Putkonen wild pitch
July 12, 1997 — Francisco Cordova (9 innings) and Ricardo Rincon (1), Pittsburgh vs. Houston, 3-0, 10 innings, Mark Smith pinch-hit home run
May 15 1952 — Virgil Trucks, Detroit vs. Washington Senators, 1-0, Vic Wertz home run
Sept. 9, 1945 — Dick Fowler, Philadelphia Athletics vs. St. Louis Browns, 1-0, Irv Hall single
Sept. 20, 1908 — Frank Smith, Chicago White Sox vs. Philadelphia Athletics, 1-0, Freddie Parent fielder's choice
July 4, 1908 — Hooks Wiltse, N.Y. Giants vs. Philadelphia Phillies, 1-0, 10 innings, Ernie Courtney error
   6. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 29, 2013 at 08:47 PM (#4554229)
"This doesn't mean anything," I keep saying to myself. "The Tigers will hit in the playoffs. This doesn't mean anything...!"

For what it's worth, in the scenario where the Red Sox make the ALCS, I'd rather they face the A's than the Tigers. The Tigers scare me.
   7. DKDC Posted: September 29, 2013 at 09:19 PM (#4554249)
Don't the Tigers scare everyone? With that pitching staff and the big boppers, they are scary as hell in a short series.

There aren't any other truly scary teams in the AL. The Red Sox have to be the least scary #1 seed I can remember. I'll be shocked if they win two playoff games. I'll be disappointed if they win even one.
   8. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: September 29, 2013 at 09:42 PM (#4554260)
The Red Sox have to be the least scary #1 seed I can remember.


2008 Cubs
   9. Howie B. Posted: September 29, 2013 at 09:59 PM (#4554266)
First no hitter I've seen live in the 36 years since my first game! I brought all three of my kids and we were screaming and cheering like it was a playoff game. Jumped the shark my ass...
   10. Cooper Nielson Posted: September 29, 2013 at 10:07 PM (#4554267)
Huh? That ninth inning was fun as hell.

Truly bizarre. I've never seen a pitcher nail down a no-hitter from the on-deck circle.
   11. SteveM. Posted: September 29, 2013 at 10:09 PM (#4554268)
So the Marlins will now trade him to save money.
   12. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:00 PM (#4554288)
Truly bizarre. I've never seen a pitcher nail down a no-hitter from the on-deck circle.
The weird thing is there was no reason for him to be on-deck. He couldn't have batted that inning.
   13. Select Storage Device Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:05 PM (#4554294)
I yelled out in the middle of a Burger King. Fun stuff.
   14. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:06 PM (#4554296)
The weird thing is there was no reason for him to be on-deck. He couldn't have batted that inning.


True, but I don't think you ever don't have the next guy in the order in he on-deck circle in that situation.
   15. Steve Treder Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM (#4554299)
Well, if it wasn't true before (it was), it's definitely true now: no-hitters have jumped the shark.

With Balls in Play hitting new all-time lows every year, a record rate of no-hitters is an expected result.
   16. Select Storage Device Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:16 PM (#4554301)
The weird thing is there was no reason for him to be on-deck. He couldn't have batted that inning.


This is a pretty fun strategy scenario, because I am more inclined to give him another inning than possibly blow his no-no with a PH.
   17. VoodooR Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:19 PM (#4554304)
2008 Cubs


Aside from them being... you know .. the Cubs, what was unscary about them that year? I mean, that was a pretty damn good team. At least I thought so and so did the Cubs fans around these parts.
   18. SoSH U at work Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:22 PM (#4554305)
This is a pretty fun strategy scenario, because I am more inclined to give him another inning than possibly blow his no-no with a PH.


The point is, he couldn't bat that inning. The inning couldn't possibly end after the Dobbs PA. Either a run scores (and the game ends), or an out is made and the Marlins have to go back in the field.

Happened once to my team in a Legion game. I said the same thing to the batter than that Larry did, and it took him awhile to figure out there was no way he could come to the plate that inning.

For what it's worth, the PBP guy today immediately knew that Alvarez couldn't hit, and was starting to mention that when MLB cut back to the studio.
   19. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM (#4554306)
I completely forgot there was a contending Cubs team that recently. Um... that team would have had... Carlos Zambrano... Ryan Dempster... Derrek Lee... Aramis Ramirez... Soriano... some other players I guess.
   20. SoSH U at work Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:31 PM (#4554308)
The Red Sox are an odd No. 1 seed, and I agree they're not particularly scary. They have neither a legitimate MVP nor Cy Young candidate. They're simply solid overall. If they resemble any recent No. 1 seed, it might be the '05 White Sox.

Now, the idea that it would be shocking* if they won 2 games of the ALDS is, of course, ludicrous, though I think DKDC's next sentence explains that little bit of lunacy.

* There isn't ever a situation where a team winning a playoff serious could be considered shocking.

   21. VoodooR Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:32 PM (#4554310)
I completely forgot there was a contending Cubs team that recently. Um... that team would have had... Carlos Zambrano... Ryan Dempster... Derrek Lee... Aramis Ramirez... Soriano... some other players I guess.


Jim Edmonds!
   22.     Hey Gurl Posted: September 29, 2013 at 11:39 PM (#4554315)
The Jays season ends with their starter giving up six runs in the first inning while the guy they traded away pitches a no-hitter against the Tigers. Perfecto.
   23. Cooper Nielson Posted: September 30, 2013 at 02:22 AM (#4554354)
The point is, he couldn't bat that inning. The inning couldn't possibly end after the Dobbs PA. Either a run scores (and the game ends), or an out is made and the Marlins have to go back in the field.

Yeah, I was thinking about that too. What's the point in even putting on a batting helmet in that situation? Either the game is over or you're heading back to the mound.

What would have been more interesting is if Alvarez would have been the last batter (instead of on-deck), with the chance to win the game and seal his own no-hitter.
   24. Cooper Nielson Posted: September 30, 2013 at 02:28 AM (#4554355)
The Red Sox are an odd No. 1 seed, and I agree they're not particularly scary. They have neither a legitimate MVP nor Cy Young candidate. They're simply solid overall.

You could probably say the same thing about the A's. Donaldson's a legitimate MVP candidate by WAR, but I think most mainstream fans don't think of him that way (yet). And Colon had an excellent season but he's no one's idea of a dominant ace.

On the other hand, the Tigers have the likely MVP and the almost-certain Cy Young (and possibly the Rookie of the Year) yet they suddenly look like the team everyone wants to play. Or at least that's what my idiot Facebook acquaintances (Tiger fans) are saying.
   25. Cooper Nielson Posted: September 30, 2013 at 03:08 AM (#4554359)
Walkoff No-Hitters
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Sept. 20, 1908 — Frank Smith, Chicago White Sox vs. Philadelphia Athletics, 1-0, Freddie Parent fielder's choice


Does anyone know how this one happened? Did the fielder screw up and forget the game situation? Did they fail to get the second out of a potential inning-ending double play? Was it a meaningless "after-the-fact" putout where a baserunner left the field without touching the next base (with less than 2 outs) and the infielder, knowing the game was already over, stepped on the base anyway?
   26. vortex of dissipation Posted: September 30, 2013 at 03:36 AM (#4554361)
Does anyone know how this one happened? Did the fielder screw up and forget the game situation?


From Smith's SABR bio.

Smith held the visiting Philadelphia Athletics hitless through nine innings, before Chicago finally pushed across a run in the bottom of the ninth. Isbell led off for Chicago and reached first on a grounder deflected by first baseman Danny Murphy. After Isbell advanced to third, Connie Mack ordered the next two Chicago batters, George Davis and Freddy Parent, intentionally walked. On the third outside lob to Parent, the infielder "grasped his bat as near the tip of its handle as he dared, and reached for that ball." One account had Parent stepping across the plate, but his tapper to second baseman Barr resulted in Isbell scoring the game's only run on a close play at home, giving Smith his second career no-hitter in a thrilling 1-0 win.


   27. bunyon Posted: September 30, 2013 at 06:24 AM (#4554371)
I'm not absolutely certain of this but in leagues I played, we were required to have someone in the on-deck circle. And that person had to have a helmet on. I don't know if that applies to MLB or not. But would explain both the "odd" observations noted above. FWIW, I'd have let Alvarez hit had it been possible. And his being on deck with a helmet on says to me the Marlins were going to.
   28. bunyon Posted: September 30, 2013 at 06:30 AM (#4554372)
I FINALLY saw the wild pitch. Solid scoring, but I think the catcher should've had it. Didn't look like it hit the ground until it was by him. He actually looked crossed up.
   29. TerpNats Posted: September 30, 2013 at 06:33 AM (#4554373)
Aside from them being... you know .. the Cubs, what was unscary about them that year? I mean, that was a pretty damn good team. At least I thought so and so did the Cubs fans around these parts.
They couldn't even get the 100-year mojo working for them.

Oh, and speaking of 1908, the Frank Smith walk-off no-hitter came in the midst of a wild AL pennant race, the one the Tigers won by half a game over the Chisox and Cleveland. Great races in both leagues (people forget the Pirates were also in the NL hunt along with the Cubs and Giants), so if things had changed slightly along the way (no Merkle base-running blunder, the Tigers having to play the game that was wiped out, etc.), we could have ended up with all sorts of World Series possibilities -- Cobb vs. Wagner a year ahead of schedule, a Pittsburgh vs. Cleveland WS, the Sox and Cubs in a rematch of 1906, and so on).
   30. villageidiom Posted: September 30, 2013 at 06:38 AM (#4554376)
Well, if it wasn't true before (it was), it's definitely true now: no-hitters have jumped the shark.

Huh? That ninth inning was fun as hell.


They've at least jumped the neon dolphin.
   31. Cooper Nielson Posted: September 30, 2013 at 07:08 AM (#4554379)
One account had Parent stepping across the plate, but his tapper to second baseman Barr resulted in Isbell scoring the game's only run on a close play at home, giving Smith his second career no-hitter in a thrilling 1-0 win.

Ah, I forgot about that rule. A "fielder's choice" doesn't have to involve an out, does it?

If they threw home and the runner beat the throw, that could be scored as a "hit" or a "fielder's choice," depending on whether the official scorer thought the batter could have reached first safely had the play been to first?
   32. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: September 30, 2013 at 07:25 AM (#4554381)
The Red Sox have to be the least scary #1 seed I can remember.


Since the Dynasty Yankees of the Nineties.
   33. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 30, 2013 at 08:26 AM (#4554399)
You guys are nuts or haven't watched the Red Sox much. They are as much like the late 90s dynasty Yankees I can remember in that they have no holes. Remember, those Yankee teams NEVER had an MVP candidate (Except Jeter in 1999) or really a cy young candidate either. What they did have were 9 guys who were constantly on base, a deep bench, and 5 good starting pitchers. That's what the Red Sox remind me of. Killer.
   34. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 30, 2013 at 08:28 AM (#4554400)
Hey, has there been any speculation that the catcher let that one roll away? The tigers had every reason to want the game over and probably zero interest in extra innings. It was hardly the wosrt wild pitch ever and, yeah, he could have had it.
   35. zonk Posted: September 30, 2013 at 08:44 AM (#4554406)
Aside from them being... you know .. the Cubs, what was unscary about them that year? I mean, that was a pretty damn good team. At least I thought so and so did the Cubs fans around these parts.


I think it maybe overstates it to say that they were "unscary" -- they were end-to-end solid, with no real holes. A good lineup with no real blackholes, a good bench, a good and deep rotation, and a solid bullpen.

Their problem - and perhaps why they weren't 'scary' - the rotation was deep but lacked a true ace (at least, an ace where you feel like you can put 2 games in your pocket). Ryan Dempster was their best SP -- Zambrano was already sliding into oblivion (but still pretty good), they also had Ted Lilly, and Rich Harden... Harden's really the only guy on that list you look at and think "this guy could 1 hit us over 8 innings if he's on". The bullpen had Wood and a then nasty Marmol - plus some nice complimentary pieces like Mike Wuertz, a young Sean Marshall, and the emergent Bullpen Jesus.

On the offensive side, you had a nice core in DLee, Soriano, and A-Ram -- plus the resurgent Edmonds, surprising Geo Soto, and solid performances from DeRosa, etc.

It was a team that I think you'd figure to be a playoff contender, maybe even favorite to make the playoffs... but it's just not a team where you look at it and worry that there are guys who could literally carry a team through a short series.
   36. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 30, 2013 at 08:51 AM (#4554410)
With Balls in Play hitting new all-time lows every year, a record rate of no-hitters is an expected result.


The last season that had fewer no-hitters than this one was 2009.
   37. JE (Jason) Posted: September 30, 2013 at 08:52 AM (#4554411)
Hey, has there been any speculation that the catcher let that one roll away? The tigers had every reason to want the game over and probably zero interest in extra innings. It was hardly the wosrt wild pitch ever and, yeah, he could have had it.

Well, the catcher had made a pretty decent stop of another pitch in the dirt when it was second and third and two out.
   38. Bob Tufts Posted: September 30, 2013 at 09:07 AM (#4554421)
Since this no-hitter came during the time when the rosters were expanded, according to some sportswriters it doesn't count?

And I expect "Balls In Play' to be a new BBTF handle in 2014.
   39. BDC Posted: September 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM (#4554480)
The Red Sox looked dazed and confused when I saw them in Arlington in May: but that was their worst month of the year, and they were still .500.

They seem to me a lineup based on the classic principle of oWAR: if you get decent enough hitting from your SS and 2B and C and CF, compared to everyone else in the league, you don't need the big monster cleanup hitter. Except they also have the big monster cleanup hitter :)

And they have Uehara, who seemed to be unable to stomach taking the mound in Arlington in 2011 but is now apparently unhittable. I guess he just had to get to the media backwater that is Fenway Park, away from all the pressure :)
   40. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM (#4554484)
Middlebrooks has an 87 OPS+ and Ortiz has a 159 OPS+. The other top 9 PA-getters on the Red Sox are between 110 and 139. There are just no easy outs in the line-up (...other than Stephen Drew vs. LHP). That would be the scary thing. Every inning carries run-scoring potential, even when the bottom of the order is due up.

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