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Friday, November 20, 2009

Henry, Yankees Catch Break as Soccer, Baseball Ban Video Replay

The left hand of Thierry Henry and the left-field foul line at Yankee Stadium have something in common: No instant replay.

France reached soccer’s World Cup finals on an overtime goal against Ireland that was set up by what replays showed was a ball illegally directed by Henry’s left hand onto the path of teammate William Gallas.

A month earlier and 3,500 miles (5,600 kilometers) to the west, the New York Yankees won a first-round game in Major League Baseball’s playoffs with help from a final-inning call on a fly ball down the left-field line by Joe Mauer of the Minnesota Twins that was called foul.

Video replays led even the umpire who called it, Phil Cuzzi, to say that the ruling should have been fair. The Yankees won 4-3 in the bottom of the 11th on their way to claiming a record-extending 27th World Series title.

Each case brought cries for the use of video replay to help determine the correct call. Both sports’ leaders said, ‘No.’

“Until I am no longer president, there will be no chance” for replays, said Sepp Blatter, the head of soccer’s governing body FIFA, which said yesterday that the France-Ireland result stood.

#### the Yankees. #### France.

Gamingboy Posted: November 20, 2009 at 04:25 PM | 11018 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1001. Biff isn't really an apt handle anymore Posted: April 11, 2010 at 06:16 PM (#3500046)
Does the winner of the FA Cup qualify for the Champions League over the 4th-placed team? It would be pretty amusing for Portsmouth to steal that spot, though ultimately it would produce poorer football in the Champions League.
   1002. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: April 11, 2010 at 06:19 PM (#3500053)
Good for Pompey, that's a nice story
   1003. Mattbert Posted: April 11, 2010 at 06:19 PM (#3500054)
The winner of the FA Cup qualifies for the Europa League, not the Champions League. If Pompey somehow pull off an even bigger miracle, though, they ain't playing in Europe next season because they didn't register. I believe their spot would then go to the 6th place team in Premiership.
   1004. Biff isn't really an apt handle anymore Posted: April 11, 2010 at 06:21 PM (#3500059)
The winner of the FA Cup qualifies for the Europa League, not the Champions League. If Pompey somehow pull off an even bigger miracle, though, they ain't playing in Europe next season because they didn't register. I believe their spot would then go to the 6th place team in Premiership.

Ah, OK. Don't know why I thought they qualified for the Champions League. Thanks.
   1005. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 11, 2010 at 06:26 PM (#3500067)
I miss the cuo winners cup. That was awesome.
   1006. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: April 11, 2010 at 06:33 PM (#3500073)
Yeah, Liverpool's done. They didn't play all that poorly today -- not that they played all that great, either, particularly in the final third -- but Fulham parked the bus and Liverpool couldn't crack it. I swear that Maxi Rodriguez has had four or five really good looks the past two weekends and hasn't finished one of them.

Oh well. Playing for fifth or sixth at this point sucks, but staying in Europe is better than the alternative.
   1007. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 11, 2010 at 07:40 PM (#3500172)
Congratulations to Portsmouth! Commiserations to my fellow Liverpool fans.
If Pompey somehow pull off an even bigger miracle, though, they ain't playing in Europe next season because they didn't register.
There's actually a late registration thing they can do, if they can get their finances sorted by the summer. But they will need to be financially sound to get a UEFA licence. Right now they don't seem to have a hope in hell - I predict they are still in administration in August when the new season kicks off, which will mean a further points deduction.
   1008. Juan V Posted: April 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM (#3500458)
analysis of the Clasico, by the awesome zonalmarking.net

I don't know how much Pellegrini is to blame here... but people just keep offering Xavi space, don't they?
   1009. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 12, 2010 at 01:47 PM (#3500483)
I didn't know about that website, Juan, thanks. It seems great.
   1010. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: April 12, 2010 at 08:28 PM (#3500897)
Damn -- Juan stole my thunder. Zonal Marking is excellent -- a Liverpool blogger that I follow links it frequently and it's particularly useful for someone like me who knows very little about the more 'technical' aspect of the game. Currently on the front page there's also a pretty funny post on Rory Delap that's certainly apt for the discussion earlier in the thread.
   1011. ursus arctos Posted: April 14, 2010 at 08:49 PM (#3502788)
You'll be lucky with a draw, as you have been in every league game this decade. Tottenham live to get their faces rubbed in the mud by Arsenal - it's their raison d'etre.


Flynn, how's that working out for you?

Long Live High Road Danny Rose.
   1012. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 14, 2010 at 09:04 PM (#3502800)
Great game. I thought Spurs thoroughly outplayed Arsenal, who couldn't create anything until Van Persie came on. But wow, RVP looked sharp. If he'd been able to play the full 90 I don't think it would even have been close.
   1013. Baldrick Posted: April 14, 2010 at 10:24 PM (#3502847)
Congrats to Chelsea fans on winning the title.
   1014. Mattbert Posted: April 15, 2010 at 11:57 AM (#3503078)
I was travelling on business yesterday and didn’t get home until late. I called Wifebert as I was waiting for my last train of the evening; there were about six minutes to go until full time, and then she told me Bendtner had just pulled one back for the Goons. I hung up the phone immediately. She called me back later to let me know Spurs had held on.

Anyone got a link to highlights? All I’ve seen from the match is Rose’s goal, which I’ve watched a couple dozen times now. I heard Gomes had a blinder and pretty much singlehandedly denied a bunch of potential equalisers from Van Persie.

We love you, Gomes!
And yes it’s quite alright,
Heurelho Gomes,
You can shag my wife!
   1015. Flynn Posted: April 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM (#3503089)
Flynn, how's that working out for you?

not very f**king well.
   1016. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: April 15, 2010 at 12:19 PM (#3503090)
I just saw the highlights on FSC last night but Gomes made about three terrific saves in the last ten minutes. From the sounds of things he had little to do most of the night until those final few minutes.
   1017. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 15, 2010 at 12:49 PM (#3503105)
Anyone got a link to highlights?

Best I can do. For some reason they seem to insist on showing the goals before each half, before the rest of the chances. But if you know the score that won't matter much.

Incidently, I thought the Rose goal was a bit over-hyped. It was a fierce strike, no doubt about it, but it was straight at te middle of the goal. Almunia for some reason never got off the ground, and quite frankly, he should have done better.
   1018. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: April 15, 2010 at 12:56 PM (#3503109)
Incidently, I thought the Rose goal was a bit over-hyped. It was a fierce strike, no doubt about it, but it was straight at te middle of the goal. Almunia for some reason never got off the ground, and quite frankly, he should have done better


I had that reaction the first time I saw it but I changed my mind after seeing it a few times. While I agree Almunia should have done better Rose took a ball that had been punched high in the air and volleyed it with a lot of force on target. Considering where Almunia was he was going to have to make an excellent effort to save it. 99% of the time that ball gets popped into Row Z, scuffed into the ground or just not attempted at all. Rose made a terrific strike and that he didn't put it into the top corner is nitpicky I think.
   1019. Mattbert Posted: April 15, 2010 at 01:11 PM (#3503122)
Thanks for that, Fancy Pants. I'm surprised Defoe's pass that set up the second goal hasn't elicited more praise in the match reports. That was Xavi-esque.

And Gomes...wow. That sequence of saves almost brought a tear to my eye. I love that guy.
   1020. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: April 15, 2010 at 01:21 PM (#3503129)
Almunia....quite frankly, he should have done better
That's going on his tombstone.

I predict they are still in administration in August when the new season kicks off, which will mean a further points deduction.
Does it really work that way? That seems incredibly dumb, I had thought they only got docked once per administration, doing it per season seems bizarre.
   1021. Juan V Posted: April 15, 2010 at 01:25 PM (#3503136)
Defoe had some other nice passes in that clip, I must say...
   1022. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 15, 2010 at 02:23 PM (#3503200)
I had that reaction the first time I saw it but I changed my mind after seeing it a few times. While I agree Almunia should have done better Rose took a ball that had been punched high in the air and volleyed it with a lot of force on target. Considering where Almunia was he was going to have to make an excellent effort to save it. 99% of the time that ball gets popped into Row Z, scuffed into the ground or just not attempted at all. Rose made a terrific strike and that he didn't put it into the top corner is nitpicky I think.

All I'm saying is that the fact that a competent GK should have really saved it knocks it down from "great to excellent" to "good to very good". Truly great strikes to me aren't saveable. YMMV.

EDIT: And obviously I disagree with your assesment of Almunia. His hands were about an inch under the ball, and his feet were dragging the ground. If he just pushes off slightly, he saves that.
   1023. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 15, 2010 at 04:16 PM (#3503361)
Does it really work that way? That seems incredibly dumb, I had thought they only got docked once per administration, doing it per season seems bizarre.
I don't know if it works once every season, but they will be in the Football League next season, which has its own rules, separate from the Premiership. As things currently stand, they will be docked 10 points at the start of next season, unless they can exit admin before the season starts. Whether it's fair or not I don't know, but the rule has withstood legal challenges to it.
   1024. Mattbert Posted: April 15, 2010 at 08:15 PM (#3503739)
FWIW, I don't think Almunia saw Rose's shot clearly. He got back up to his feet quite quickly after punching the ball out, but he was rooted until the shot was just about past him. I don't think his reflexes are that bad, so I'm assuming he just didn't get a very clean look at it.
   1025. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: April 16, 2010 at 01:07 PM (#3504185)
Look like the Tom Hicks sports empire is almost completely dismantled.
   1026. ursus arctos Posted: April 16, 2010 at 02:50 PM (#3504311)
It's more like he's having a garage sale, though.

He still hasn't found anyone to take the stuff off his lawn for the price he's asking, though.
   1027. Obi One Kenobi Nil Posted: April 16, 2010 at 03:20 PM (#3504351)
I just saw the highlights on FSC last night but Gomes made about three terrific saves in the last ten minutes. From the sounds of things he had little to do most of the night until those final few minutes.


Arsenal were at their worst for most of the game. Zero directness. Lots and lots of sideways passing infront of a tight, packed defense which didn't give them any space. Nobody willing to shoot, nobody willing to make runs and Bendtner being forced to come deep or drift wide to get a sniff of the ball -- which meant there was never anybody in the box.

Which is why when anyone says Arsenal play like Barcelona I give an old-fashioned look. Barcelona are incredibly direct, if there is no opening they recycle the ball back to Valdes and start again. The only similarity is that they both keep possession very well.

Defoe had some other nice passes in that clip, I must say...


That's why Defoe is infuriating. He has the technical ability to pass but half the time just refuses to and just instinctively shoots if he is within sight of the goal - has no football head.
   1028. Juan V Posted: April 16, 2010 at 03:49 PM (#3504397)
Barcelona are also considerably better than Arsenal at winning the ball back.
   1029. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 16, 2010 at 04:59 PM (#3504470)
It's more like he's having a garage sale, though.

He still hasn't found anyone to take the stuff off his lawn for the price he's asking, though.
The money those two want for Liverpool is absurd. They've weakened the playing squad and the league position, trashed the balance sheet, and they want more than double what they paid for the club, just 3 years later.

There's a special place in hell for those two.
   1030. ursus arctos Posted: April 16, 2010 at 05:11 PM (#3504489)
They are also completely shameless, as made manifest in this quote from their statement today:

"Having grown the club this far we have now decided together to look to sell the club to owners committed to take the club through its next level of growth and development."

If the club's future owners are going to "grow the club" in the same way, your are going to be looking forward to derbies with Tranmere Rovers.
   1031. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 16, 2010 at 05:15 PM (#3504491)
The money those two want for Liverpool is absurd. They've weakened the playing squad and the league position, trashed the balance sheet, and they want more than double what they paid for the club, just 3 years later.

There's a special place in hell for those two.


Sounds like Mike Ashley at Newcastle, after taking them from top 4 to a relegation fight, and then asking for three times what he paid for the club.* During the largest financial downturn in living memory no less...


*He did reduce his demand after they actually got relegated...
   1032. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 16, 2010 at 05:42 PM (#3504519)
Sounds like Mike Ashley at Newcastle, after taking them from top 4 to a relegation fight
I'm not defending Ashley as an owner or a businessman, but this isn't right. He bought Newcastle in the 2007 offseason - they had just finished 13th. They last finished in the top 4 in 2002/3, under Robson. Newcastle were in a mess long before Ashley.
   1033. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 16, 2010 at 05:54 PM (#3504530)
You're right, I meant to put a "contender" in there. I changed it from "Champions League contender", because that obviously means something else, and accidently dropped the "contender" part too.

They finished fifth in 04 and seventh in 06, and despite their weak finish in 07, were viewed to have one of the few squads with the potntial of breaking into the top 4 again. At least, that's how it was seen in Newcastle at the time, not that Geordies have a particluarly strong attatchment to reality...
   1034. ursus arctos Posted: April 16, 2010 at 07:56 PM (#3504640)
As proven by the fact that you can find members of the Toon Army who would describe the current squad in the same terms.
   1035. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 17, 2010 at 12:08 PM (#3505105)
So, if you're a neutral, I think you have to be hoping for a United win today. Would keep both the title race, and the race for fourth going.
   1036. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 17, 2010 at 01:42 PM (#3505126)
Holy crap,
   1037. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: April 17, 2010 at 01:44 PM (#3505127)
Well, how about that?
   1038. Obi One Kenobi Nil Posted: April 17, 2010 at 01:45 PM (#3505130)
I'm not defending Ashley as an owner or a businessman, but this isn't right. He bought Newcastle in the 2007 offseason - they had just finished 13th. They last finished in the top 4 in 2002/3, under Robson. Newcastle were in a mess long before Ashley.


Serial club killer Graeme Souness took us out of contention for the top 4

As proven by the fact that you can find members of the Toon Army who would describe the current squad in the same terms.


You can say the same about nearly any club. Newcastle hasn't had a good squad since the year of Patrick Kluivert.
   1039. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: April 17, 2010 at 01:46 PM (#3505131)
That finish made waking my ass up to watch this fairly blah game worthwhile. How did City NOT score on that scramble in front around the 80th minute or so?
   1040. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 17, 2010 at 02:03 PM (#3505136)
Dunno. United had a couple of "how did they not score" moments too. Roney and Giggs in the first half. And then Giggs again in the second half, when he sort of bundled it into Given around the edge of the box.

Other than that, City defended really well though. United seemed to be oddly content with playing the posession game. Both sides looked like they were lacking in ideas up front...
   1041. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 17, 2010 at 04:49 PM (#3505212)
Dreat start from Spurs, they deserve the lead.
   1042. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 17, 2010 at 06:03 PM (#3505256)
Terry off, that's game over. Wow. Chelsea still have to be favourites for the title though. Stoke and Wigan at home should be gimmes, and they should have too much for my poor Liverpool.
   1043. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 17, 2010 at 06:16 PM (#3505260)
What was Terry thinking? I should have been sent off 2 mins earlier, I'd better rectify that?

Chelsea have been quite lucky. Tottenham could easily have scored 2 or so more. Then they'd be in danger of loosing the GD advantage...
   1044. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: April 17, 2010 at 06:32 PM (#3505266)
Crazy to think that late one from Lampard could be important. +3 instead of +2 right now in GD over United.

Tottenham fans must be delirious right now. I think if you said they would get 4 points from this stretch of Arsenal/Chelsea/United they would have been satisfied, 6 points already and United still to be played is terrific.
   1045. Juan V Posted: April 18, 2010 at 12:46 AM (#3505687)
Well, look at Spurs now....
   1046. Swedish Chef Posted: April 18, 2010 at 02:56 PM (#3506443)
What a pathetic collapse for Arsenal. To think people were comparing them to Barcelona.
   1047. Juan V Posted: April 18, 2010 at 03:10 PM (#3506447)
   1048. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 18, 2010 at 03:14 PM (#3506451)
Yes, the volcano is annoying. It was supposed to turn the sunset purple the day it happened, but it just screwed up the flights. Oh well.

Good to hear the games are going ahead though, there was talk of calling them off earlier. Eurostar is ofc unaffected so the British teams will be fine.
   1049. rfloh Posted: April 18, 2010 at 03:26 PM (#3506462)
1047. Swedish Chef Posted: April 18, 2010 at 10:56 AM (#3506443)
What a pathetic collapse for Arsenal. To think people were comparing them to Barcelona.


Serves Wenger right for his stubbornness: Fabianski. Fabianski keeps ####### up, but Wenger refuses to learn. And Silvestre? Really? Wenger's central defenders for the match were 2 old guys he picked up at bargain rates, one because he is utter crap (Silvestre), the other because he spent most of the season not playing because he made the mistake of signing for Notts County (Campbell) and then wanted out after realising how stupid that was. If Wenger is going to pay #### all attention to the defense, he deserves to have to whine and moan like a little baby and blame everyone else except himself for Arsenal always falling short.
   1050. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: April 18, 2010 at 04:02 PM (#3506494)
Portsmouth administrator Andrew Andronikou:
"We've had discussions with a number of first-team players and we've resolved some contractual issues over playing in the FA Cup final - and the only player who is not available is Aruna Dindane. The chairman of his club Lens has dug his heels in - he wants four million euros for him to play another game for Portsmouth and we are not in a position to pay that. I've asked the player and his agent to go and see the club. I'm hoping something positive will happen from that a meeting will take place shortly."

4m for one game? Talk about extortion.
   1051. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 18, 2010 at 04:30 PM (#3506507)
4m for one game? Talk about extortion.
No, it's not extortion.

When Dindane signed on loan for Portsmouth, there were various clauses in the contract. One of them stated that if Dindane played X games for Portsmouth (I believe it's 20 games), Lens would be due 4m euros (roughly £3.5m or $5.4m). This kind of thing is fairly standard in loan contracts - if Dindane is playing lots of games for Portsmouth, it means he's doing well, so Lens should get a higher fee. The counterpart to this is that Portsmouth would have had to pay a lower initial fee. So (sake of argument) Portsmouth could have signed Dindane on loan for 3m euros as a flat fee, or for 1m euros up front then 4m euros if he played in 20 games. As part of the loan, Portsmouth also have the option to sign him (for a set fee) at the end of this loan if they want - although obviously they won't be doing this due to their situation.

Portsmouth are now demanding to renegotiate the contract. It's absolutely not extortion to want to stick to the original terms as agreed. It's not Lens' fault that Portsmouth have messed up their finances. Portsmouth benefited by a lower initial price. They're now trying to get away without paying the bonus. Too bad for them.
   1052. Mattbert Posted: April 18, 2010 at 10:40 PM (#3506747)
Was away for the weekend; just finished watching Spurs-Chelsea that I'd recorded. Spurs played very well, and should've won by three or four goals really, but Chelsea just did not turn up for that one. Couldn't believe it.
   1053. Juan V Posted: April 19, 2010 at 12:22 AM (#3506808)
Well, if flights are still grounded next week and Inter have to take the bus to Barcelona, they'll know exactly where to park it!
   1054. Mattbert Posted: April 19, 2010 at 09:50 AM (#3507258)
*rimshot*
   1055. Flynn Posted: April 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM (#3507263)
Serves Wenger right for his stubbornness: Fabianski. Fabianski keeps ####### up, but Wenger refuses to learn. And Silvestre? Really? Wenger's central defenders for the match were 2 old guys he picked up at bargain rates, one because he is utter crap (Silvestre), the other because he spent most of the season not playing because he made the mistake of signing for Notts County (Campbell) and then wanted out after realising how stupid that was. If Wenger is going to pay #### all attention to the defense, he deserves to have to whine and moan like a little baby and blame everyone else except himself for Arsenal always falling short.

The goalkeeper situation is a mess all over, but I'm not sure what Wenger is supposed to do about it right now. Mannone isn't any better.

As for the centrebacks Vermaelen, Gallas and Song are injured. Campbell has been pretty good (I suppose you might fault him for part of the last goal, but it was just a really good goal) since he came back from no man's land and Silvestre is the dregs of the team.
   1056. Mattbert Posted: April 19, 2010 at 08:24 PM (#3507735)
West Ham are f**king dismal. Good lord.
   1057. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 19, 2010 at 08:31 PM (#3507737)
Sadly the game is on ESPN so I can't watch. Are Liverpool playing well at least?
   1058. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: April 19, 2010 at 08:41 PM (#3507742)
West Ham are f**king dismal. Good lord.
So long as they're less dismal than Wigan this weekend, I like their chances of staying up.

Of course, if they do stay up, given how dismal they are, it does raise the question of what that says about Hull and Burnley.
   1059. Mattbert Posted: April 20, 2010 at 09:21 AM (#3508306)
Sadly the game is on ESPN so I can't watch. Are Liverpool playing well at least?

They didn't look too enthusiastic in the first 15 minutes or so, either. I think a better team would've put them under serious pressure. Bodes ill for the upcoming Chelsea fixture if they play like that again.

Ilan was an utterly useless lump up front, and Cole wasn’t much better. Zola might as well have put out a nine-man team, to be frank. Stanislas and Faubert at least got after it a bit down the right flank, but the delivery was generally very poor. West Ham offered vanishingly little, and a good side like Liverpool ought to have pummeled them but they settled for a "professional performance". I have never heard Anfield that subdued.
   1060. rfloh Posted: April 20, 2010 at 09:59 AM (#3508309)

The goalkeeper situation is a mess all over, but I'm not sure what Wenger is supposed to do about it right now. Mannone isn't any better.

As for the centrebacks Vermaelen, Gallas and Song are injured. Campbell has been pretty good (I suppose you might fault him for part of the last goal, but it was just a really good goal) since he came back from no man's land and Silvestre is the dregs of the team.


I don't fault Campbell, or the signing of Campbell. I fault Wenger for being in a situation where if he hadn't signed Campbell midseason, the Arsenal defense would be utterly screwed.

Injuries happen to every team. If Fabregas, or van Persie, gets injured, and you are unable to cover for them, then fine. Any team will be affected if its best players get injured. If Man United has Rooney injured, they will be affected; Liverpool, Torres, Chelsea Drogba. Etc. What is unacceptable is how lacking in depth Arsenal are overall. Even when ther non-star starters get injured, they are screwed. Take away Vermaelen, and the Arsenal central D is crap. Song isn't a central D. Combined with an unrealiable goalkeeping situation, and you have a crappy defense.
   1061. Flynn Posted: April 20, 2010 at 10:13 AM (#3508311)
I wouldn't consider Vermaelen a non-star starter at this point. He's been one of the best centrebacks in the Premiership this year.

Song came up through the ranks as a central defender (he played some of Arsenal's CC games over the past few years there) and would clearly be playing there over Silvestre. Silvestre is behind Vermaelen, Gallas, Campbell, Djourou and Song on the depth chart. He's the dregs.
   1062. Baldrick Posted: April 20, 2010 at 07:39 PM (#3508798)
The first half of Inter-Barca has been great. Surprisingly open, some great passing and possession from Barca but Inter isn't folding either. And as long as the fullbacks on both sides continue to believe that defending isn't *really* part of their jobs, we should see plenty of goals.

Inter is clearly (justifiably) terrified of Messi. Any time he touches the ball he's got two, sometimes three, guys on him.
   1063. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 20, 2010 at 08:08 PM (#3508868)
Woohoo!

How do you say "flat-track bully" in Catalunyan?
   1064. Juan V Posted: April 20, 2010 at 11:18 PM (#3509029)
The Special One!!!

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time Guardiola's Barcelona lose by more than one goal.
   1065. ursus arctos Posted: April 20, 2010 at 11:38 PM (#3509058)
That may well be true. It is definitely the first time they have given up three goals this season. And Puyol is out of the second leg.

The tie is far from over, though.
   1066. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: April 21, 2010 at 02:20 PM (#3509609)
This Saturday should be a fun day of soccer. Anybody up for a marathon day at a bar starting at 7:45 am? I kinda like the idea of just wrapping myself up in my Slanket and sipping coffee and eating donuts for the Spurs-United match, but I can be convinced it's in my interests to drink beer at a time when only degnerates should be drinking beer. New York City locales, of course.

United-Spurs 7:45
West Ham-Wigan 10:00
Arsenal-Man City 12:30
   1067. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: April 21, 2010 at 02:38 PM (#3509636)
Anybody up for a marathon day at a bar starting at 7:45 am?
I would love to be, but unfortunately I have a birthday party the night before I am obliged to attend so I don't think I will be in beer-drinking shape at 7:45 that night, let alone in the AM. But we should definitely plan for one before the season is over.
   1068. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: April 21, 2010 at 02:45 PM (#3509647)
My liver is relieved!
   1069. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 21, 2010 at 09:40 PM (#3510054)
Ich liebe die Bayern!
   1070. Mattbert Posted: April 22, 2010 at 01:31 PM (#3510630)
That was pretty crap game, I thought. Lyon tried to park the bus, but their driver must have been tired from the long journey because they weren't very good at it. I'm not entirely sure why you'd do a defensively questionable team like Bayern the favor of not really bothering to attack them much, but there you are. And to then compound that tactical error by giving Arjen Robben the time and space outside the box to beat you...yeesh.
   1071. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: April 22, 2010 at 01:45 PM (#3510641)
I thought Lyon needed to be much more aggressive after Ribery was sent off. Obviously they gave that advantage back but even before that they were not generating a lot of chances and even a 0-0 draw against a 10 man Bayern would have been a disappointment. To actually lose 1-0, they are in a world of trouble. Coming home with a loss and without even the consolation of an away goal is pretty harsh.
   1072. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 22, 2010 at 04:09 PM (#3510785)
I think #1072 was bang-on. I was shocked by Lyon's negativity when they had a man advantage. They got just what they deserved, even if it came about because of a questionable second yellow and a horrible goalkeeping error.

I thought Bayern made a big mistake in bringing on Gomez though. When they were 4-4-1 with men running from midfield they were bossing the game. 4-3-2 just didn't work for them - they were losing possession too easily and lacked shape. At that stage, a competent team would have really started hitting on the break, but competent is not Lyon at the moment.

I think the most relieved man must be Ribery. If Bayern had lost, he'd have been blamed, and it would put the cap on what must be the worst week of his life.
   1073. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: April 22, 2010 at 04:11 PM (#3510791)
I think the most relieved man must be Ribery. If Bayern had lost, he'd have been blamed, and it would put the cap on what must be the worst week of his life.

His stock has taken a beating lately, huh? Will he still be one of this summer's Galacticos?
   1074. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: April 22, 2010 at 04:44 PM (#3510841)
If Bayern had lost, he'd have been blamed, and it would put the cap on what must be the worst week of his life.
But she loves them all! How could anyone judge someone who treated his underage hookers so well?
   1075. ursus arctos Posted: April 22, 2010 at 06:47 PM (#3511012)
Pompey's hopes for Europa League reprieve officially dashed.

So, seventh place will be good enough for a Europa League place in both England (because of this ruling) and Italy (because Inter and Roma will be contesting the cup final for the fifth time in six years).

In other news, this is what I would call a "hard cap".

Melbourne Storm have been stripped of two championships in Australia's National Rugby League for breaching the competition's strict salary cap rules.

The Victoria club were found to have spent A$1.6m (£960,541) above the set limit over the course of five years.

The Storm have been fined A$500,000 (£300,000) and ordered to return the A$1.1m (£660,200) prize money they took for winning the 2007 and 2009 titles.
   1076. Mattbert Posted: April 22, 2010 at 08:21 PM (#3511142)
Pompey's hopes for Europa League reprieve officially dashed.

Good. Well, not good--it's obviously very, very bad that a Premiership club got itself into such a state--but you know what I mean. It would've been an embarrassment to have Portsmouth playing in Europe next season.
   1077. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 22, 2010 at 09:11 PM (#3511195)
That was one of the worst games I've seen this season.

Well, one of the 50 worst or so. I've watched a lot of Liverpool.

We should still have enough in the second leg though.
   1078. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: April 22, 2010 at 09:27 PM (#3511209)
AG: Sounds like typical Benitez in Europe this year -- play tight and compact away and then bring the ruckus at Anfield. Really disappointed that Babel didn't start, though. He had a very good stretch of games before his sending off at Benfica, but since then it's been back to the same old, same old.
   1079. ursus arctos Posted: April 22, 2010 at 09:50 PM (#3511227)
Atleti are a different team with Aguero and have performed better away from home in every round of the Europa League so far (twice qualifying on away goals, and winning their other away leg). It won't be as easy for Liverpool as some of the English commentators are assuming.

Good result for Fulham in Hamburg, though they would have loved to get a goal (even if they gave one up).
   1080. ursus arctos Posted: April 23, 2010 at 08:19 PM (#3512277)
Celtic-Rangers.

July 21st.

At Fenway.

What could possibly go wrong?
   1081. sardonic Posted: April 23, 2010 at 08:39 PM (#3512291)
Pretty excited for Spurs - United on the Deuce tomorrow. HD + Martin Tyler = Win.
   1082. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: April 23, 2010 at 09:06 PM (#3512313)
Interesting fact (and taken from oh you beauty) -- Atletico Madrid have won one (!) game in Europe this year (well, two now after yesterday).

-------

Sardonic -- I assume you saw the news about Davies. Provided he's ready-to-go by mid-May(ish), he's still going to the World Cup, right? I'm also interested in who you think is going as the third (and perhaps fourth) forward role(s) -- Bedoya? Gomez? One or two of the MLS guys (Ching, Casey, Findley, Cunningham)?
   1083. ursus arctos Posted: April 23, 2010 at 09:11 PM (#3512317)
That factoid isn't completely correct. Atleti beat Panathinakos in both legs of their Champions League qualifier in order to make it into the group stage. Since then, however, they have only beaten Galatasaray away (and now Liverpool at home) in the Europa League. They couldn't even beat Apoel in their CL group.
   1084. sardonic Posted: April 23, 2010 at 09:28 PM (#3512333)
Sardonic -- I assume you saw the news about Davies. Provided he's ready-to-go by mid-May(ish), he's still going to the World Cup, right? I'm also interested in who you think is going as the third (and perhaps fourth) forward role(s) -- Bedoya? Gomez? One or two of the MLS guys (Ching, Casey, Findley, Cunningham)?


I think Davies at least gets invited to camp. It is disturbing to hear that he won't be ready to step on the field for Sochaux so late in the game though.

I think if Davies can't go at all, we go with Jozy and Deuce as the starters, and Bedoya gets a ticket to SA. Looking at the US depth chart, if something happens to Jozy or Clint, I'd much rather see Donovan up top with Feilhaber, Beasley or Torres taking his spot in the midfield (probably with a formation change as well), than see Casey, Gomez, Buddle, Findley or any of that group.

In that scenario, I wouldn't be surprised to 4-3-2-1 formation that has been busted out in the past, with Bradley, Edu and Feilhaber in the 3, Donovan and Beasley/Holden in the 2 and Deuce or Jozy as the 1.

So in some sense, it doesn't matter much which of those guys makes the team, since I doubt that any of them would see significant minutes. I think Bedoya will get the call since he's actually been capped lately. For the same reason, I would project Casey to make the team over the rest of the pu pu platter that is the US forward pool.

My prediction for what the roster will be:

FW: Altidore, Dempsey
MF: Donovan, Bradley, Edu, Holden
D: Bocanegra, DeMerit, Onyewu, Spector
G: Howard

FW: Casey
MF: Feilhaber, Clark, Torres, Beasley, Bedoya
D: Bornstein, Cherundolo, Goodson, Marshall(?)
G: Hahnemann, Guzan
   1085. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: April 24, 2010 at 02:08 PM (#3512871)
Before I could even get in here to post about what a big game this is for West Ham...they're already behind! Man, the bottom of the league is just dreadful this year.
   1086. Biff isn't really an apt handle anymore Posted: April 24, 2010 at 02:47 PM (#3512892)
It is a big game for West Ham, but I really wouldn't be surprised if they lost the remainder of their games and still stayed up. Hull looks pretty dreadful.
   1087. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: April 24, 2010 at 02:57 PM (#3512900)
Jozy better not pull a stunt like that in SA or they might as well not invite him. On the plus side, anything that hurts Hull I'm OK with.
   1088. Langer Monk Posted: April 24, 2010 at 03:22 PM (#3512907)
Is Spector completely overmatched in the EPL? Or have I just caught his poor moments?
   1089. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: April 24, 2010 at 04:16 PM (#3512939)
Woohoo! Safe at last!
   1090. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: April 24, 2010 at 07:12 PM (#3513060)
Is Spector completely overmatched in the EPL? Or have I just caught his poor moments?
The former. But he is still very young.

Unless Burnley beat Liverpool tomorrow, the long-standing bottom 3 are all going down, as we all predicted they would several weeks ago. The relegation fight has been very disappointing this season.
   1091. Mattbert Posted: April 24, 2010 at 09:54 PM (#3513191)
Thank you Gooners for making yourselves at least moderately useful this evening. I'm disappointed Spurs couldn't take a point or more from Old Trafford; United were mediocre but Spurs rolled over for them via a couple mind-bogglingly terrible moments of "defending". With the draw at Emirates, though, at least my boys still control their own destiny.

Now I just hope they have enough gas left in the tank to take care of business against Bolton at home and get the confidence back up. And if Villa can get something from Eastlands, so much the better.
   1092. Biff isn't really an apt handle anymore Posted: April 25, 2010 at 05:35 PM (#3513715)
Well, Chelsea has probably ensured that they'll win the title if they end up level on points with ManU.
   1093. Mattbert Posted: April 27, 2010 at 09:47 AM (#3515099)
Interesting article from the SI vaults by Danny Blanchflower on his brief time as a color man for television broadcasts of pro soccer in the US during the late 60s.
   1094. Juan V Posted: April 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM (#3515101)
Are Inter and Bayern flying or driving or taking the train?
   1095. Mattbert Posted: April 27, 2010 at 12:36 PM (#3515136)
Far as I know, most European airports are back open for business as usual (more or less).
   1096. Swedish Chef Posted: April 27, 2010 at 06:13 PM (#3515504)
Altidore has been run out of Hull, probably chased by an angry mob.
   1097. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: April 27, 2010 at 06:23 PM (#3515518)
I just saw video of the "headbutt", and I've got to say -- that's pretty weak. The sending off was no doubt deserved, but Hutton absolutely takes a dive. There is face-to-face contact, but it certainly wasn't enough to fall to the ground and roll around. Hopefully Altidore plays next year with a club that can actually compete, even if that (likely) means going to a league inferior to the EPL.
   1098. ursus arctos Posted: April 27, 2010 at 07:32 PM (#3515586)
Here's the clip.

Muppets, both of them.
   1099. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: April 27, 2010 at 07:39 PM (#3515588)
Muppets, both of them.

I can see why Altidore lost his cool. A cheap tackle and then having the guy throw the ball at you while you're down is a bit much. Dumb move by Jozy, but the other guy instigated.
   1100. sardonic Posted: April 27, 2010 at 07:52 PM (#3515602)
I can see why Altidore lost his cool. A cheap tackle and then having the guy throw the ball at you while you're down is a bit much. Dumb move by Jozy, but the other guy instigated.


Yeah, definitely a ##### move by Hutton. He definitely deserved to have Jozy get in his grill a little bit about it. Shouldn't have lost his cool though.

EDIT: Not to mention Hutton falling like he was shot by a sniper.
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