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Thursday, September 05, 2019

Heyman: Dayton Moore to receive “long extension” once sale is approved - Royals Review

However according to MLB Network reporter Jon Heyman, the Royals could be committing to Moore for a bit longer. Appearing on the Big Time Baseball podcast, Heyman discussed the sale of the Royals (go to the 40 minute mark), praising the succession plan laid out by David Glass as a “positive thing.” As for Moore, Heyman says that Moore will be in Kansas City for quite a long time.

“But John Sherman, from what I understand, knows Dayton Moore well…is an admirer of Dayton Moore, according to league sources. My understanding is that Dayton Moore, once this is approved, will receive a long extension and be there for a long time.”

Jim Furtado Posted: September 05, 2019 at 11:10 AM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dayton moore, royals

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   1. WSPanic Posted: September 05, 2019 at 11:45 AM (#5876937)
This is terrible news. I really thought this sale was going to be our chance to avoid the collision course our managerial position is on with Mike Matheny.
   2. Rough Carrigan Posted: September 05, 2019 at 12:18 PM (#5876942)
Yes, Moore led the organization to a championship. But they've been total crap for most of his tenure. I thought Sherman was supposed to be some kind of admirer of using analytics.
   3. Walt Davis Posted: September 05, 2019 at 05:18 PM (#5877009)
They were crap while they waited for the nice pieces to develop. Then they were surprisingly good. Now they're back to crap after not re-signing "stars" and drafting late. Other than the 3-4 very top GMs, that's what a successful GM resume looks like these days. Any other candidates' resume is going to either be (a) I was in charge of a failed rebuild or (b) I was the scouting director/asst GM of a successful rebuild.

But yeah, the Moore administration is pretty long in the tooth and, unless the latest drafts have been awesome, hasn't achieved the sort of excellence to consider a "lifetime" appointment. It might be a good idea to get fresh blood in.
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 05, 2019 at 05:30 PM (#5877014)
, unless the latest drafts have been awesome


They had a string of really bad drafts, but FWIW, last year's draft already has 3 pitchers considered to be Top 100 guys, plus they got Bobby Witt this year.
   5. Rough Carrigan Posted: September 05, 2019 at 10:40 PM (#5877056)
Tampa, for one, has done a hell of a lot better, on average, than KC during Moore's tenure. Yup KC won a title. But if he was worthy of some 20 year reign wouldn't he have fewer completely terrible years?
   6. Walt Davis Posted: September 06, 2019 at 02:15 AM (#5877063)
Crikey! I didn't realize Moore had been there 14 seasons. I thought it was like 9-10. Has it really been that long since Allard Baird? I remember (obviously not as well as I thought) when he took over that I opined that the organization was a huge mess and that there was little any GM could do about to get them winning sooner than 5 years or so. But 8 is a bit much. So his resume is sort of "I was in charge of a failed rebuild but they let me stay on and I was in charge of a successful rebuild and now I'm staying on for a 3rd rebuild that's off to a pretty lousy start."

So I'll amend to: pretty close to nuts to give this guy an extension.

   7. Dock Ellis Posted: September 06, 2019 at 11:15 PM (#5877333)
Wow Allard Baird, I haven't thought of that dude in at least a decade. This morning, I just happened to think of Candlebox, whom I hadn't thought of in at least that long, either. What will I think of next!
   8. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 07, 2019 at 09:02 AM (#5877351)

Baird is currently assistant GM for scouting and player development for the Mets. By most accounts I've heard he's doing a pretty good job.
   9. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 07, 2019 at 11:10 AM (#5877363)
Wow Allard Baird, I haven't thought of that dude in at least a decade. This morning, I just happened to think of Candlebox, whom I hadn't thought of in at least that long, either. What will I think of next!


"Boy Meets World."
   10. Mr Dashwood Posted: September 07, 2019 at 11:28 AM (#5877367)
I opined that the organization was a huge mess and that there was little any GM could do about to get them winning sooner than 5 years or so. But 8 is a bit much. So his resume is sort of "I was in charge of a failed rebuild but they let me stay on and I was in charge of a successful rebuild and now I'm staying on for a 3rd rebuild that's off to a pretty lousy start."

This is making far too light of a difficult task. Dombrowski ran the Tigers for twelve years, and never won a ring. Rizzo has run the Nationals for a decade now, and has no ring to show for it. Beinfest ran the Marlins for two years and got one.

Just saying 'Billy Beane' should end this line of argument.

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