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1. Best Regards, L.M. Posted: August 23, 2008 at 12:01 PM (#2913747)Shocking.
I'm with Hoffman here. You want to change the win definition in some meaningful and useful way, that's worth discussing. You want to do it in a manner to "punish" bullpens (who are probably holding more leads for the starter than the starter would be able to do himself) is stupid. Rewarding starters who "pitch well" was why the Devil created the quality start stat.
And you can write it off to relief pitcher selfishness if you want, but something tells me Hoffman's career 54-66 record never earned him one penny and won't play a part in his HoF case. (And no, he wouldn't be the first pitcher with a losing record to make the HoF -- Sutter was 68-71 and Fingers was 114-118. And technically Satchel Paige was 28-31 but I'll guess he was better than 3 games over 500 in the Negro Leagues. :-)
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