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Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Holmes: The story behind Ty Cobb’s tardy arrival to his Hall of Fame induction

Uhh…the New Bomb Turks were playing that weekend?

The answer is far less sinister.

Cobb and his son were late because their train arrived late in Albany. Ever a frugal man, Ty had decided against arriving a day early in Cooperstown and staying a hotel. Instead he and his son booked an overnight train for Albany and rented the car to travel the remaining 40+ miles. He was late because of poor travel planning.

Ty arrived soon enough to climb the steps of the Museum and make a brief statement, which was recorded by movie cameras on hand. He signed autographs for fans who assembled on Main Street, and took a tour of the new Museum, where he was particularly impressed with the exhibit showing a baseball reported to be the first used in a professional ballgame (it wasn’t). He told Hall of Fame officials that he would ship several items from his baseball career to them, so they could put them on display. He also walked across Main Street and visited the Cooperstown post office, which was issuing special stamps that day for the historic occasion. Ty plunked down $1.25 and purchased a book of stamps (they were 3 cents at the time).

Cobb was very happy to see a plaque that hung outside the Museum with the list of inductees. His name – Tyrus Raymond Cobb – was at the top of the list. He was sure that his father, who never got a chance to see him play a professional game, would have been proud of his accomplishments.

In future years, Cobb would travel to Cooperstown nearly every year for the Hall of Fame induction ceremony, and he campaigned for several of his former teammates (most notably Sam Crawford) and players against whom he competed. But he wa slate on theat first day in 1939, and as a result he is missing from one of baseball’s most famous photographs.

Repoz Posted: January 16, 2013 at 09:48 PM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. ajnrules Posted: January 16, 2013 at 10:00 PM (#4348624)
Christy Mathewson couldn't have been there that day because he died in 1925. Still, a good article that showed a different side of the oft-vilified Cobb.
   2. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: January 16, 2013 at 10:33 PM (#4348642)
In future years, Cobb would travel to Cooperstown nearly every year for the Hall of Fame induction ceremony,

That's worth noting for the fact that in the first decade of HoF inductions, previous inductees were notorious for not attending those ceremonies. The Sporting News ran several articles that detailed and complained about this, and it's nice to know that Cobb was one of the exceptions.
   3. AndrewJ Posted: January 16, 2013 at 10:55 PM (#4348655)
Another anecdote about Cobb was that only three people from major league baseball attended his funeral, presumably because he such was a jerk. According to Richard Bak's book Peach, however, it turns out MLB was about to send a contingent to the services, but Ty's family -- perhaps wary of a media circus -- requested a quick, family-only ceremony before most of the baseball people could make it down to Georgia.
   4. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: January 16, 2013 at 11:10 PM (#4348666)
Ty plunked down $1.25 and purchased a book of stamps (they were 3 cents at the time).

He bought a book containing 41 and 2/3 stamps?
   5. Howie Menckel Posted: January 16, 2013 at 11:21 PM (#4348677)

weirdest part of Ken Burns Baseball is the footage of Cobb throwing out the first pitch for the Los Angeles Angels' (not of Anaheim, then) first AL game in 1961; he died a few months later...

   6. Morty Causa Posted: January 16, 2013 at 11:30 PM (#4348686)
He bought a book containing 41 and 2/3 stamps?


May be that outside the post office stamp vendors could do a markup.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: January 16, 2013 at 11:36 PM (#4348691)

or he got 2 cents back as change?

   8. Ray (RDP) Posted: January 16, 2013 at 11:40 PM (#4348695)
Holmes: The story behind Ty Cobb’s tardy arrival to his Hall of Fame induction


Well, the Hall of Fame will be late to the Clemens and Bonds inductions, so, I guess mistakes are made on both sides.
   9. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 16, 2013 at 11:41 PM (#4348696)
Presumably 40 stamps in a book for $1.20.
   10. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM (#4348764)
it will take a while to sort out the extent to which Al Stump has dominated/contaminated our view of Cobb
   11. Walt Davis Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:23 AM (#4348784)
Presumably 40 stamps in a book for $1.20.

Exactly. Ever tried to "plunk down" a dime? Can't be done, least plunkable coin known to humans. If you want a good plunk, it's gotta be a quarter, assuming no half-dollar available, even if that means getting a nickel back.

True, nickels plunk a lot better than dimes but if you plunk down 4 nickels there's too high a chance one is gonna get away, end up on the floor, then you're bending over to pick it up and all the drama from your plunking is lost.

Cobb was a master plunker and knew this situation required a quarter.
   12. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:54 AM (#4348795)
can this be the BTF coins and currency thread?

good piece in WSJ this week on doing away with the penny, nickel and quarter.
   13. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 17, 2013 at 03:57 AM (#4348817)
. . . piece in WSJ this week on doing away with the penny, nickel and quarter.

Not until you pry them from my cold dead hands.
   14. AndrewJ Posted: January 17, 2013 at 06:24 AM (#4348831)
it will take a while to sort out the extent to which Al Stump has dominated/contaminated our view of Cobb

Ty was no sweetheart, but it's pretty clear Stump had his thumb on the scales.
   15. Lassus Posted: January 17, 2013 at 07:53 AM (#4348834)
good piece in WSJ this week on doing away with the penny, nickel and quarter.

But keeping the dime?
   16. TomH Posted: January 17, 2013 at 07:58 AM (#4348835)
I've campaigned for doing away with penny/nickel/dime and keep the quarter. But keeping the dime and having a 50 cent coin would also work. Save oodles of bucks for minitng costs.
   17. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 17, 2013 at 08:44 AM (#4348845)
Just get rid of the penny and the dollar bill. Get people to actually use dollar coins and two dollar bills.

But who cares, really? Pretty soon the only way to pay for anything will be with an iphone app. Then the government really will control everything.
   18. Rants Mulliniks Posted: January 17, 2013 at 09:34 AM (#4348865)
They are getting rid of the Canadian penny this year.
   19. winnipegwhip Posted: January 17, 2013 at 12:40 PM (#4349060)
I still believe that Charles Alexander's bio on Cobb is the definative work on Tyrus. One of my favorite biographies because of the fascinating individual and the quality of the research and writing.
   20. smileyy Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:11 PM (#4349119)
But who cares, really? Pretty soon the only way to pay for anything will be with an iphone app. Then the government really will control everything.


I laughed.

The government will only control everything in the sense that they'll apportion our lives to Apple, Amazon and Google.
   21. Morty Causa Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:20 PM (#4349129)
Yes, some never want to ask who owns the government. The delusion that no one gets anything out of government is a hard one to get free of.
   22. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 17, 2013 at 03:41 PM (#4349277)
The delusion that no one gets anything out of government is a hard one to get free of.


Well, I got an iphone!
   23. Morty Causa Posted: January 17, 2013 at 04:06 PM (#4349291)
You sure that isn't an "eye"phone.

For many of us, the government only does bad meme is our version of What Did The Romans Ever Do For Us.
   24. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 17, 2013 at 04:14 PM (#4349304)
You sure that isn't an "eye"phone.


Actually, it's just an Obamaphone.

What Did The Romans Ever Do For Us


Forced me to take four years of Latin.
   25. Morty Causa Posted: January 17, 2013 at 04:34 PM (#4349326)
Big brother monitoring was forever ruined for me by the eyewitness news clip in The Kentucky Fried Movie. I keep imagining people jockeying for position to see what's going on in our lives.
   26. AndrewJ Posted: January 17, 2013 at 09:30 PM (#4349549)
What Did The Romans Ever Do For Us.

ROMANES EUNT DOMUS
   27. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM (#4349583)
The country started going to hell when they got rid of the half-cent, two-cent, three-cent, half-dime & 20-cent pieces. (The last of which is the only one I don't own an example of; those suckers aren't cheap.)
   28. Morty Causa Posted: January 17, 2013 at 11:07 PM (#4349590)

When were they discontinued?
   29. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 11:18 PM (#4349596)
Sometime after the Civil War. Ask Harveys; he'll remember.

(Except probably the half-cent didn't make it that long.)
   30. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 11:23 PM (#4349600)
Sometime after the Civil War. Ask Harveys; he'll remember.

(Except probably the half-cent didn't make it that long.)

Large cents, which were about the size of half-dollars, I guess, were cool, too. I think the penny as we know it came along in the mid-1850s or so.
   31. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 11:23 PM (#4349601)
Partial double post. Gah!

Anyway, judging from Wikipedia --

Half-cent -- 1847

Two- & three-cent & half-dime -- 1873

Twenty-cent -- 1876

Large cent -- 1857

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