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Wednesday, August 13, 2014

How Burke Badenhop uses Pitch F/X data

What can Badenhop glean from the site after an outing? He recently pulled up the data from an outing last week against the Cardinals — a one-batter appearance in which he struck out Matt Holliday on four pitches.
The first thing he looks at is velocity. Although Badenhop generally finds velocity overrated, there’s obviously value to knowing how hard he threw in a particular outing. Often, the radar-gun readings say more about his effort level and his aggressiveness on the mound than, say, his level of fatigue. He pointed to a game earlier this season when he walked Jose Bautista on a full-count sinker at 88 mph.
“The two [pitches] before that were 91-92,” he said. “So I guided that one there. I wasn’t pitching to contact. I was trying to stay away from anything.”

Jim Furtado Posted: August 13, 2014 at 09:00 AM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: burke badenhop, pitchfx, sabermetrics

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   1. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 13, 2014 at 02:42 PM (#4770295)
“It’s kind of helped me make adjustments,” he said. “You get in trouble when you try to make the ball move. For me, it’s maybe I’m not finishing my pitches, maybe I need to be on the ball a little longer, maybe I need to get on top just a little better. That’s kind of what it means to me.”


You gotta respect both the guy's receptiveness to data and his ability to translate it into meaningless scoutspeak cliches.
   2. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 13, 2014 at 03:17 PM (#4770334)
You gotta respect both the guy's receptiveness to data and his ability to translate it into meaningless scoutspeak cliches.


I don't know - the guy's a successful major league pitcher. I think he probably knows a little bit about what he's talking about.
   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 13, 2014 at 04:16 PM (#4770408)
I don't know - the guy's a successful major league pitcher. I think he probably knows a little bit about what he's talking about.


Probably. But the way he's expressing it is pretty meaningless. It sounds like maybe he's trying to allude to his release point, but there's no way of really knowing. My comment was meant to show the vacuousness of scoutspeak, not to imply that Badenhop didn't have any underlying knowledge.
   4. Zach Posted: August 13, 2014 at 06:49 PM (#4770527)
"Be on the ball longer" and "get on top just a little better" sound like they have pretty specific mechanical meanings.
   5. The District Attorney Posted: August 13, 2014 at 06:59 PM (#4770536)
Hey, it's better than what C.J. Wilson gets out of stats.
Jerry Dipoto, the Angels' general manager, recently presented C.J. Wilson with statistics on a sheet of paper. The key statistic Dipoto wanted to emphasize to Wilson: When you throw 60% of your pitches for strikes, you win... In the seven starts in which he has thrown 60% of his pitches for strikes, he is 5-0 with two no-decisions. The Angels are 6-1 in those starts.

Wilson said he understood the efforts of Dipoto and the Angels' coaching staff to keep his mind focused on one easy-to-comprehend goal.

"I kind of took it as, 'OK, dude, whatever,'" Wilson said. "It kind of validates the simplicity aspect for them."

After all, he said, he hears the suggestion to 'throw strikes' all the time.

"People from the stands always yell it," Wilson said. "Brilliant coaching advice, especially from a guy in the 18th row who's had four beers. I'm like, 'Dang, I forgot.'"
(DISCLAIMER: I like C.J. Wilson and think he's a smart guy. Also, in this case, he has a helluva point.)

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