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Saturday, February 01, 2014

Ian Chappell says Twenty20 will become a poor impersonation of baseball

I have no idea what any of this means…guess I should have read Greg Shaw’s Bomp! Records liner notes better.

Former Australia captain Ian Chappell feels that Twenty20 cricket has made the game more batsmen-centric and more needs to be done to maintain a balance between the bat and the ball. According to him, if this continues it could lead to the demise of the sport.

Chappell in his column in the Daily Telegraph feels the organisers are putting more emphasis on big hitting and bringing entertainment through bowlers being battered all over the park.

“While sixes are becoming as common as cheerleaders at T20 matches, over 30 percent of the runs at Bellerive were registered via rope-clearing shots. This is more than 10 percent above the previous highest yearly average for international T20 matches. The number of games and the on-ground fireworks aren’t the only explosions occurring in T20 cricket,” Chappel said.

“T20 sixes are on the increase and while this may sound exciting for the patrons, the administrators need to ensure they retain the right balance between contest and entertainment.”

The former prolific batsman points out that this sort of imbalance between the bat and ball could have dire consequences for the sport.

...“Batting is an art but with the boundaries being reduced and bats improving at a rapid rate, there’s plenty of incentive for players to completely ignore technique and concentrate on raw power. If this trend continues, T20 will eventually become a poor impersonation of baseball,” Chappell said.

“There’s definitely a place for hitters who excel but some batting artistry must remain for the game to resemble cricket.”

Repoz Posted: February 01, 2014 at 04:59 PM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: February 01, 2014 at 05:18 PM (#4649886)
I may have asked this before. Does any non-pay-per-view channel show cricket in the US? Last weekend NBC had some sort of world rugby matches on, which surprised me. But I haven't seen cricket. I'd like to watch some and see if I find it interesting but don't know where to look.
   2. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: February 01, 2014 at 05:23 PM (#4649889)
How do you say "Chicks dig the long ball!" in Hindi?
   3. Lassus Posted: February 01, 2014 at 05:37 PM (#4649893)
Does any non-pay-per-view channel show cricket in the US?

In 2010 you could watch cricket live in the middle of the night on ESPN3 for free, online. I haven't really thought about it since, although I really do love to watch it when I find it.
   4. Rennie's Tenet Posted: February 01, 2014 at 05:37 PM (#4649894)
There's some Caribbean cricket on ESPN3 right now (4:30 EST). Leeward Islands v. CCC. Barbados v. Trinidad tomorrow afternoon.
   5. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: February 01, 2014 at 05:37 PM (#4649895)
I've seen t20 rebroadcast on espn2.
   6. Rennie's Tenet Posted: February 01, 2014 at 05:53 PM (#4649901)
I should add to No. 4 thay ESPN is a streaming service, to keep people from going crazy looking for it on their cable.
   7. puck Posted: February 01, 2014 at 05:55 PM (#4649903)
Why would Twenty20 favor the batsmen? Because there's not enough overs to make it through to all the batters, so the better hitters will see more of the uh, pitches?
   8. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: February 01, 2014 at 06:14 PM (#4649908)
I should add to No. 4 thay ESPN is a streaming service, to keep people from going crazy looking for it on their cable.

Thanks. I was going to ask. So, computer only, or can I get it via my DirecTV box somehow?
   9. J.B.S. Posted: February 01, 2014 at 06:27 PM (#4649912)
How do you say "Chicks dig the long ball!" in Hindi?

???????? ???? ???? ?????

Edit: bbtf can't do Hindi.

Why would Twenty20 favor the batsmen? Because there's not enough overs to make it through to all the batters, so the better hitters will see more of the uh, pitches?

Getting a batsman out means much less when there's a maximum of only 20 overs. Wickets (outs) are less precious, so bowlers have less leverage.
   10. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: February 01, 2014 at 06:30 PM (#4649913)
But isn't it then just run rate, which is still something that a bowler can control?
   11. ursus arctos Posted: February 01, 2014 at 06:43 PM (#4649915)
The over limitations (no bowler can bowl more than five overs) are also more significant, especially given the fact that T20 sides tend to favor batsmen over bowlers. Then there is the fact that the pitches tend to be more batter friendly for commercial reasons.
   12. J.B.S. Posted: February 01, 2014 at 06:44 PM (#4649917)
But isn't it then just run rate, which is still something that a pitcher can control?

To some extent, yes, but I think the batsman's fear of getting out is a huge part of that equation. Some very good bowlers have adapted to 20/20 and are able to control risk-taking batsmen even without that leverage, but overall the defensive side of the game is lagging badly.
   13. villageidiom Posted: February 01, 2014 at 08:53 PM (#4649947)
Last weekend NBC had some sort of world rugby matches on, which surprised me.
And it was awesome. My son was like, "Wait, it's like football, but with no pads, no timeouts, and 7 minute halves with almost no stoppages in play? This is the best thing ever."

Seriously, NBC Sports might as well go the Wide World of Sports route. Rugby. Cricket. Darts. Whatever, just show it.
   14. puck Posted: February 01, 2014 at 09:15 PM (#4649952)

Seriously, NBC Sports might as well go the Wide World of Sports route. Rugby. Cricket. Darts. Whatever, just show it.

They kind of do, but a lot of that stuff gets relegated to NBC Universal, which was dropped from a lot of carriers. That Rugby Sevens World series thing gets shown every year, though. They have a stop in Vegas in late January each year.

Edit: oh, and the other thing about Sevens is there are 7 players instead of the usual 15 or so on the same sized field, so they have a lot more running room.
   15. puck Posted: February 01, 2014 at 09:16 PM (#4649953)
Then there is the fact that the pitches tend to be more batter friendly for commercial reasons.

Huh? Are they not allowed to throw certain pitches?

Also, so if a wicket is worth less, I suppose this is why there are more sixes--the batter can be more aggressive/take greater risks?
   16. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: February 01, 2014 at 09:36 PM (#4649958)
Then there is the fact that the pitches tend to be more batter friendly for commercial reasons.

Huh? Are they not allowed to throw certain pitches?

He means the grounds, stadium or whatever you want to call it. The pitch they play on.
   17. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 01, 2014 at 10:13 PM (#4649967)

They kind of do, but a lot of that stuff gets relegated to NBC Universal, which was dropped from a lot of carriers. That Rugby Sevens World series thing gets shown every year, though. They have a stop in Vegas in late January each year.


I was wondering about that! When NBC Sports first launched as "NBC Sports", they had darts in the middle of the night quite often. Haven't seen that in a year or more now. It actually got me interested in darts and I'm in a league now.
   18. Greg K Posted: February 01, 2014 at 10:27 PM (#4649973)
Then there is the fact that the pitches tend to be more batter friendly for commercial reasons.

Huh? Are they not allowed to throw certain pitches?

He means the grounds, stadium or whatever you want to call it. The pitch they play on.

I went to see a twenty/twenty match in Nottingham last summer, and my friend who is quite familiar with the ground pointed out where the boundary would be if it had been a test match, which was quite a bit further back from where it was. I imagine that is standard practice for the format.

EDIT: It's my impression from talking to cricket players that twenty/twenty is exactly that - the batsmen need to maintain a higher run rate, and wickets are less costly, so it's much, much more aggressive.

bat design, which is mentioned in the excerpt is another thing I've noticed a lot of cricketers talking about. Apparently back in the day you could really only get a six when you hit it in a very specific sweet spot. But now with thicker edges you can still send it quite far even if you don't catch it perfectly. If I understand it correctly it's the exact opposite of baseball bats getting thinner and thinner (at the handle anyway) allowing for more and more bat speed and power at the cost of less contact.
   19. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: February 02, 2014 at 12:04 AM (#4649998)
Some very good bowlers have adapted to 20/20 and are able to control risk-taking batsmen even without that leverage, but overall the defensive side of the game is lagging badly.

If there's anything Lasith Malinga's continuing success suggests, it is that more yorkers are better. A lot of the younger Indian generation (Varun Aaron, etc) are trying to do that. Moderate success.

I love T20, if only because it is so exciting (most IPL matches go down to the last few overs), but I do worry sometimes if it will kill off Tests for good. Would be a pity; there's a beauty to Test matches, I thin.
Also, so if a wicket is worth less, I suppose this is why there are more sixes--the batter can be more aggressive/take greater risks?

Yes, exactly. In a Test match, a player like Rahul Dravid is worth a ton because he's excellent at defending his wicket forever, without scoring very many runs. In a T20 game, because run rate is especially important and losing 10 wickets in 20 overs requires massive falls of wickets, a Virender Sehwag-type is more what you're looking for. So you get very aggressive play because runs are more valuable (due to the lower totals [in comparison to Tests, at least. They can sometimes approach one-dayers]), runs per ball are more valuable (due to fewer balls), and because retaining your wicket is a less relevant skill. The best players in T20 can prioritise aggressive shot-making without hitting into danger areas, a very difficult skill, and one which is directly transferable to Tests and One Day matches, so at the top, you're selecting the same group of the best (the difficult comes that you're selecting more aggressive batsmen and generally bowlers who can also bat, which has led to a lot of consternation in India about T20 destroying the integrity of the Indian Test squad. Honestly, I'm not as receptive to this kind of thought, since without T20 I'd doubt we'd have found Pujara/Ashwin/much of the younger generation [Kohli maybe]).

Of course, India's been playing horrible in New Zealand so that's, uh, greaaaat. What is so difficult about find a halfway decent fast bowler, anyway? *mutters something about missing Zaheer Khan whenever he isn't there*
   20. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: February 02, 2014 at 09:28 AM (#4650029)
If "Slinga" Malinga isn't the best nickname in sports, I don't know what is. What a cool athlete that guy is. The Carl Hubbell of cricket.

Also, the baseball scout in me imagines that Chris Gayle would've been an incredible hitter. What fabulous bat speed.
   21. puck Posted: February 02, 2014 at 01:16 PM (#4650080)
He means the grounds, stadium or whatever you want to call it. The pitch they play on.


Whoops. I is an American, I guess.
   22. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: February 03, 2014 at 01:42 AM (#4650583)
20/20 is the worst.

Dumbed down cricket for the masses, it's such a load of crap.

Ian Chappell was a pretty good baseballer in his own right , but he is starting to irk me.
   23. ASmitty Posted: February 03, 2014 at 10:42 AM (#4650615)
This thread is infinitely amusing to me. I know that all the posts are written in English, but I simply cannot grasp what on Earth any of them says.
   24. ryanvooris Posted: February 04, 2014 at 03:00 PM (#4651501)
Whenever I mention to my students that I enjoy cricket they ask me to explain the game to them. Every time I do, most of them say things like, "That's it?" or, "I thought it was more complicated."

Cricket is a fun game. I wish more people would take the time to understand what makes it entertaining.

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