Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Thursday, November 21, 2013

Ian Kinsler-Prince Fielder trade eerily foreshadowed in 2010 ESPN commercial | Dallas Morning News

Creepy.

Jim Furtado Posted: November 21, 2013 at 06:16 PM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: ian kinsler, prince fielder, rangers, tigers, trades

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 21, 2013 at 07:11 PM (#4604169)
Just saw this, and it amused me. It's from a Fangraphs chat earlier this week.
   2. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: November 21, 2013 at 07:38 PM (#4604179)
#1 - Thanks for sharing that. He's the best. And by the best, I mean the worst.

Edit: Well, the deal in the commercial is Kinsler for Lincecum then sweetened to Kinsler and Prince for Lincecum. So the foreshadowing is a bit off.
   3. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 21, 2013 at 07:38 PM (#4604180)
To clarify, I think that in the commercial, Real Ian Kinsler offers Real Prince Fielder Imaginary Ian Kinsler and Imaginary Prince Fielder for Imaginary Tim Lincecum. No Fielder-Kinsler trade is proposed.

EDIT: Coke to 2.
   4. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 21, 2013 at 07:44 PM (#4604182)
#2:

I don't think Cameron was as wrong as you're proposing. Detroit had to pitch in cash to offset the Fielder contract.
   5. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: November 21, 2013 at 08:15 PM (#4604194)
Detroit had to pitch in cash to offset the Fielder contract

The delta between cash and the Cy Young winner is pretty large. And then he said Texas wouldn't even consider it. He was pretty wrong.
   6. Justin T., Director of Somethin Posted: November 21, 2013 at 08:39 PM (#4604200)
Seriously.
   7. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 21, 2013 at 09:07 PM (#4604207)
Detroit had to pitch in cash to offset the Fielder contract

The delta between cash and the Cy Young winner is pretty large. And then he said Texas wouldn't even consider it. He was pretty wrong.


Not necessarily. The question of whether to take [Fielder + Fielder's contract + 30M] or [Fielder + Fielder's contract + Scherzer] is the same as just [30M] or [Scherzer]. If someone asked you if you'd rather have Max Scherzer or $30M, you'd have to think about it. That's not a huge difference, in my mind, especially considering you'd have to pay Scherzer either $14M in arb money or give him an albatross extension once you made the trade. You can do a lot of things with $30M.

   8. Justin T., Director of Somethin Posted: November 21, 2013 at 09:09 PM (#4604208)
Like sign Jason Vargas.
   9. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 21, 2013 at 09:15 PM (#4604210)
Like sign Jason Vargas.


Come on, you could sign at least three Jason Vargases for $30M!
   10. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki Posted: November 22, 2013 at 03:07 AM (#4604334)
"The delta between cash and the Cy Young winner is pretty large. And then he said Texas wouldn't even consider it. He was pretty wrong."

B.S. Scherzer has a lot more value to DET than a random $30M. But, you've likely got a Cameron axe to grind so grind on Bob. DET's likely jettisoning a contract they don't want so they can extend Scherzer.
   11. TR_Sullivan Posted: November 22, 2013 at 11:04 AM (#4604398)
If you listen to this commercial closely....

Kinsler proposes trading Lincecum to Fielder for Kinsler: "Hey Prince about trading me for him."

Fielder says maybe...

Then Kinsler says proposes trading Kinsler and Fielder for Lincecum: "How about us for him."

Fielder: "I get us and you get him."

So Kinsler first proposes trading Lincecum... and then proposes getting him back in a deal. He proposes Fielder trading Kinsler and then trading for him."

I think.
   12. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: November 22, 2013 at 11:12 AM (#4604403)
Scherzer has a lot more value to DET than a random $30M


Exactly. Cameron asserted that the Rangers wouldn't even consider a deal that would be considerably better for them than the one they took. He's about as wrong as you can get.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Vegas Watch
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogHall of Fame Announces Changes to Voting Process for Recently Retired Players, Effective Immediately
(83 - 6:30am, Jul 28)
Last: Sunday silence

NewsblogSchoenfield: Why didn't the Braves win more titles?
(50 - 6:23am, Jul 28)
Last: Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October

NewsblogFull Count » Mike Carp, Felix Doubront and the challenges of player discontent on a struggling team
(7 - 6:19am, Jul 28)
Last: Jim Furtado

NewsblogOTP - July 2014: Republicans Lose To Democrats For Sixth Straight Year In Congressional Baseball Game
(3292 - 6:14am, Jul 28)
Last: Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October

NewsblogDJ Short: Maximum stay on Hall of Fame ballot changed from 15 to 10 years
(57 - 6:05am, Jul 28)
Last: Sunday silence

NewsblogDodgers and Diamondbacks Triple-A teams involved in wild brawl
(12 - 5:43am, Jul 28)
Last: Robert in Manhattan Beach

NewsblogFull Count » Mike Carp explains why he requested a trade from Red Sox
(18 - 3:18am, Jul 28)
Last: ellsbury my heart at wounded knee

NewsblogGossage on Bonds, McGwire Hall hopes: ‘Are you f–king kidding?’
(106 - 3:02am, Jul 28)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogRoger Angell goes into the Hall of Fame
(28 - 12:49am, Jul 28)
Last: bobm

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread- July 2014
(967 - 12:31am, Jul 28)
Last: clowns to the left of me; STEAGLES to the right

NewsblogGiants purchase contract of 2B Uggla
(8 - 12:09am, Jul 28)
Last: Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick.

NewsblogOMNICHATTER 7-27-2014
(145 - 11:46pm, Jul 27)
Last: Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim

NewsblogHoVG: John Rocker Shows Up in Cooperstown… “Survivor” Up Next
(31 - 10:52pm, Jul 27)
Last: depletion

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1956 Ballot
(7 - 9:28pm, Jul 27)
Last: neilsen

SABR - BBTF ChapterWho's going to SABR??
(100 - 6:40pm, Jul 27)
Last: Scott Fischthal

Page rendered in 0.1637 seconds
52 querie(s) executed