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Friday, November 23, 2012

Ichiro surprises keeper of ‘Ichimeter’ with special thank-you presents

Last July, Ichiro was traded to the New York Yankees. An era had ended in Seattle as had Franz’s need to tote the sign to her seats in right field. The Yankees were in Seattle when the swap went down so Ichiro came over in his New York uniform to thank Franz for her support through the years and to autograph the Ichimeter. It was the final chapter in the Ichimeter story.

Only, it turns out that it wasn’t. Franz received a special package on Tuesday afternoon and tweeted that she almost “passed out in the middle of the living room” after opening it.

His days as a Mariner might be over, but Ichiro continues to deliver hits for his fans in Seattle.

Good cripple hitter Posted: November 23, 2012 at 01:39 AM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: ichiro, mariners, the inexhaustible well of greatness that is ichiro

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   1. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: November 23, 2012 at 08:44 AM (#4308242)
No doubt inspired by Derek Jeter and his gift baskets.
   2. Random Transaction Generator Posted: November 23, 2012 at 11:40 AM (#4308284)
Ichiro's handwriting is awesome.
The gift is awesome.
The only way it would be more awesome is if there was a DVD of "Ichiro's All-Star Speeches".
   3. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: November 23, 2012 at 11:46 AM (#4308287)
That's a class act kids.
   4. Gamingboy Posted: November 23, 2012 at 03:26 PM (#4308419)
Ichiro = Awesome
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 23, 2012 at 03:48 PM (#4308431)
The only way it would be more awesome is if there was a DVD of "Ichiro's All-Star Speeches".

Even a Taiwanese Animators version would be a hit! I tremble at the thought of Ichiro signing with a National League team, but perhaps he has no interest in playing for those ########### #############.
   6. Monty Predicts a Padres-Mariners WS in 2016 Posted: November 23, 2012 at 04:05 PM (#4308435)
See, it is possible to become a Yankee but still have fans of your previous team keep liking you.
   7. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 23, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4308458)
It seems obvious to me that a player's relationship with the fans - especially one as generous and open-hearted as this one - should absolutely have a bearing on his Hall of Fame qualifications.
   8. Srul Itza At Home Posted: November 23, 2012 at 06:53 PM (#4308480)
Ichiro is a "stats" candidate for those who (a) include his Japanese League stats; (b) look only at stats like hits, BA and gold gloves or (c) give credence to the WAR numbers for defense and baserunning. He is a "narrative" candidate as well, which includes everything from his "pioneer" status to the "excitement" he generated.

The only people for whom he is not a HOFer are the MLB-only, anti-narrative stat-purists. They will not make a difference in the vote, assuming any of them have a vote.

   9. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: November 23, 2012 at 07:12 PM (#4308489)
Aww. That's fantastic.
   10. Tuque Posted: November 23, 2012 at 07:29 PM (#4308493)
I like that a good gift for a ball player to give is a pair of their used, dirty old shoes.
   11. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: November 23, 2012 at 09:59 PM (#4308530)
That's amazing.

And his handwriting is Teh Awesome.

He has a career writing subtitles for Japanese movies.
   12. John Northey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 01:49 AM (#4308571)
Now that is impressive. A gesture that wasn't expected, asked for, or that got great publicity. Just a player thanking a fan.

The only problem now is I can see tons of fans trying to do the same thing in hopes of a gift. However, to do it for 8 years is not an easy thing unless it is done out of pure joy of the game. Makes one hope Ichiro can get another shot somewhere and play at the 200 hits per season level and keep around for awhile longer.
   13. Erix Posted: November 24, 2012 at 03:14 AM (#4308575)
This makes me happy.
   14. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:53 AM (#4308603)
Ichiro is a "stats" candidate for those who (a) include his Japanese League stats; (b) look only at stats like hits, BA and gold gloves or (c) give credence to the WAR numbers for defense and baserunning. He is a "narrative" candidate as well, which includes everything from his "pioneer" status to the "excitement" he generated.
Not that we need to have this debate again, but once you give Ichiro NPB credit, he's a no-brainer Hall of Famer. (b), (c), and "narrative" are unnecessary.

But returning to the actual story, Ichiro is great. I hope he's got one more Ichiro season in him.
   15. Dan Posted: November 24, 2012 at 12:18 PM (#4308651)
I hope he's got one more Ichiro season in him.


Even if he re-signs with the Yankees?
   16. Baldrick Posted: November 24, 2012 at 03:11 PM (#4308691)
Not that we need to have this debate again, but once you give Ichiro NPB credit, he's a no-brainer Hall of Famer. (b), (c), and "narrative" are unnecessary.

Sure, but the point was that you don't have to accept A. If you are a 'stats' person who only focuses on hits and runs and things, you'd still give him a vote. And, if you're a saber-stats person who doesn't give extra-MLB credit, you'd STILL vote for Ichiro.
   17. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: November 24, 2012 at 03:12 PM (#4308692)
This is great!
   18. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 24, 2012 at 05:57 PM (#4308736)
Not that we need to have this debate again, but once you give Ichiro NPB credit, he's a no-brainer Hall of Famer.

Well, most people aren't willing to do that, absent a change to make the HoF the International Baseball Hall of Fame, in the manner of the basketball Hall of Fame - which I suspect most folks would also oppose. However, for Ichiro, it's sufficient for his NPB service to be an acceptable reason for not penalizing him for a "short" MLB career. The vast majority of HoF voters will go for that, IMHO.
   19. Ray (RDP) Posted: November 24, 2012 at 06:09 PM (#4308741)
However, for Ichiro, it's sufficient for his NPB service to be an acceptable reason for not penalizing him for a "short" MLB career.


There is no "penalty for a short career." The problem is not enough value.

Had he been capable of hitting for more power or getting on base more, his short career wouldn't have mattered.
   20. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:29 PM (#4308775)
There is no "penalty for a short career." The problem is not enough value.

That seems very likely to be the minority view, for all the reasons that have been raised in prior Ichiro threads. Maybe, I'm misremembering, but I believe the anti-Ichiro HoF caucus is not much more than a single Primate.
   21. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:58 PM (#4308796)
There is no "penalty for a short career."


I have to agree with this. It doesn't make sense in the context of a Hall of Fame discussion to talk about penalties. Players put forth markers in an attempt to accumulate enough greatness to be considered. The default should always be that a player isn't qualified for Cooperstown, until he accumulates enough positives.

Of course, Ichiro doesn't have a short career. He has a long career, divided between Japan and the U.S.
   22. Ray (RDP) Posted: November 25, 2012 at 10:22 AM (#4309088)
Maybe, I'm misremembering, but I believe the anti-Ichiro HoF caucus is not much more than a single Primate.


You're misremembering. Some others here also hold my view, and IF we are talking about his MLB career only (yes, I realize this is a huge issue for people) then still more people (including MCOA) agree that his MLB-only career isn't enough.

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