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Tuesday, March 26, 2013

Indianapolis adaptive reuse project converts a ballpark into residences.

If you lived here, you’d be safe at home by now.

Indianapolis-based Heartland Design is working on the $22 million Stadium Lofts project, which broke ground a year ago this month. “We preserved quite a bit of the stadium,” said James Cordell, principal at Heartland, noting his belief that the project is the first conversion of a stadium to housing. “It’s just a very unusual thing to do.”

Bush Stadium’s stone art deco entrance and flanking brick walls have been incorporated into the new building, and the stadium’s steel canopy forms the roof. The existing structure has been shored up and windows added to the brick walls. To create space for a wood-frame structure housing 134 residences on three stories, the team removed the stadium’s staggered concrete seating platforms and support girders.

Bush Stadium’s unique shape, it turns out, makes for varied apartment layouts. “There are some very bizarre units in this building that we expect will appeal to young professionals and students,” said Cordell. A new glass-and-metal panel wall opens on to the former baseball diamond, with balconies overlooking the infield. Third-floor units will feature tall ceilings with exposed, original steel girders.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:07 AM | 39 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: adaptive re-use, architecture, ballparks, indianapolis

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   1. Greg K Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:24 AM (#4396563)
"Victory Field" in Indianapolis remains the only stadium I've ever seen a minor league game in.

I don't actually recall much about the game, but the roster of the Indianapolis Indians for that year included future stars like Sean Casey, Paul Konerko, Aaron Boone, Jason LaRue, Damian Jackson, Brook Fordyce, Brendan Donnelly, Pete Rose Jr., Roberto Petagine, Steve Parris, Danny Graves, Dennys Reyes, and Scott Williamson. I assume at least one or two of those guys were playing that day.
   2. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:37 AM (#4396573)
That looks fantastic, actually. If I lived in Indianapolis I would be all over that if I could afford it.
   3. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:39 AM (#4396575)
Hello Detroit, you listening?
   4. Cris E Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:43 AM (#4396581)
I hope they continue to mow patterns into the courtyard forever. I have doubts that the homeowners assn is going to go for it after week three, however...
   5. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:47 AM (#4396584)
I hope they continue to mow patterns into the courtyard forever. I have doubts that the homeowners assn is going to go for it after week three, however...

That would be my biggest worry. Keeping up the park would be really important, I think, in a development like this.
   6. Flynn Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:47 AM (#4396585)
said James Cordell, principal at Heartland, noting his belief that the project is the first conversion of a stadium to housing. “It’s just a very unusual thing to do.”


Well you believe wrong. Arsenal did it with Highbury and it looks great, though not as good as this (they turned the pitch into a garden).
   7. McCoy Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:47 AM (#4396586)
Perhaps I'm missing something but why would any developer waste so much space by leaving a ballfield in the middle of his site? Sounds quirky but ultimately stupid.
   8. SoSH U at work Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:48 AM (#4396588)

That would be a substantial upgrade on what the place looks like now.


Former Bush Stadium.

Victory Field is a beautiful stadium, but I retain a soft spot for the old Bush Stadium, where Razor Shines was a legend and much of Eight Men Out was filmed.
   9. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:53 AM (#4396592)
Bah, that's nothing compared to this stadium in Osaka.
   10. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:56 AM (#4396599)
Perhaps I'm missing something but why would any developer waste so much space by leaving a ballfield in the middle of his site? Sounds quirky but ultimately stupid.

Maybe they think they can charge more as the park is an amenity. Maybe they have a deal with the city to retain the green space as a public easement. Maybe once they get approval and funding they will cut back how much of the park they leave undeveloped.

Stadium Lofts sits at the edge of the 170-acre 16 Tech district, a formerly industrial area now housing many of Indianapolis’ technology and life sciences companies. Develop Indy, the city’s economic development organization overseeing the district, is working to make the area into a sustainably-minded corridor within walking distance of the Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis campus, with new parks and an updated streetscape along Indiana Avenue.

This excerpt FTA makes me think keeping the green space is part of the plan the developers have agreed to in conjunction with the city planners.
   11. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:59 AM (#4396604)
Or maybe all those vehicles stored on the grass have turned it into a Superfund site and they CAN'T build anything directly on it???
   12. SteveM. Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM (#4396608)
That looks awesome. I lived in Indy for two years and loved the city. Unlike outside of Philly where I live now, rents were reasonable as was the cost of living. Indy is a very underrated town.
   13. McCoy Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:03 AM (#4396612)
Maybe they think they can charge more as the park is an amenity. Maybe they have a deal with the city to retain the green space as a public easement. Maybe once they get approval and funding they will cut back how much of the park they leave undeveloped.

This excerpt FTA makes me think keeping the green space is part of the plan the developers have agreed to in conjunction with the city planners.


My money is on the ballfield not existing by the time they actually have people move in to the units. It just isn't a real selling point and it contains a lot of unnecessary costs that creates no real value to the property or to the tenants.
   14. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:09 AM (#4396617)
I'm not certain if this is the exact design, but I recall a presentation about this project by a young man at our Indy Chapter SABR meeting about 4 years ago. I was quite impressed by it, as it would be quite the accomplishment for this to succeed. The area is hardly wealthy. Small homes ($10k-100k) and light industry surround the area. It could use a little sprucing up.

Old Bush Stadium is west/NW of downtown Indy by about 2.5 miles and sits about 2.5 miles due east of Indianapolis Motor Speedway on 16th St. The Med School/Center is a 10 minute walk from this, transportation is accessible and this is meant to be part of a larger scale project, though it seems this is meant to be a key piece.

Bush Stadium was storing 'cars for clunkers'.
   15. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:16 AM (#4396623)
My money is on the ballfield not existing by the time they actually have people move in to the units. It just isn't a real selling point and it contains a lot of unnecessary costs that creates no real value to the property or to the tenants.

It might not be their decision to make. Like I said, it could be part of the agreement they made with the city in order to get the right to develop the stadium into the apartments. The article actually makes it seem that's the case.
   16. McCoy Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:32 AM (#4396633)
RTA and it appears the "ballfield" is going to be earth tone concrete and grass. That makes a lot more sense than an actual real ballfield in the middle of the complex. I'm still betting it isn't going to be just a vast sea of grass and some concrete though. That is too much of a bland waste for a housing project.
   17. zack Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM (#4396648)
That sucks, because the actual play and green space is by far the best part of the development. The rest is just condos.
   18. zonk Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:47 AM (#4396651)
Perhaps I'm missing something but why would any developer waste so much space by leaving a ballfield in the middle of his site? Sounds quirky but ultimately stupid.

Maybe they think they can charge more as the park is an amenity. Maybe they have a deal with the city to retain the green space as a public easement. Maybe once they get approval and funding they will cut back how much of the park they leave undeveloped.

Stadium Lofts sits at the edge of the 170-acre 16 Tech district, a formerly industrial area now housing many of Indianapolis’ technology and life sciences companies. Develop Indy, the city’s economic development organization overseeing the district, is working to make the area into a sustainably-minded corridor within walking distance of the Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis campus, with new parks and an updated streetscape along Indiana Avenue.

This excerpt FTA makes me think keeping the green space is part of the plan the developers have agreed to in conjunction with the city planners.


While Indy isn't a village -- I don't think space is at nearly the premium you'd see on the east coast, or even like some areas of Chicago.

Indianapolis certainly has its downtown and I admit to not knowing this particular area of it at all, but generally speaking -- you can afford to essentially 'waste' space if it's not at such a premium that stacking another 100 units is necessary to make the parcel economically viable.

When the Cubs move to Rosemont, I certainly hope I can afford a Wrigley condo!
   19. McCoy Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM (#4396667)
When I talk about wasting space I don't mean that they should stack another 100 units on in the middle of the field but that a grassy field in the middle of the units is a waste of green space. I'm sure they'll add amenities and landscaping to the project.
   20. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:11 AM (#4396686)
Hello Detroit, you listening?

Well, (a) the stands at Tiger Stadium have already been torn down, and (b) nobody wants to live there, anyway. So, no, they're not listening.
   21. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:17 AM (#4396695)
9: I'd never heard of that; thanks!
   22. Hack Wilson Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM (#4396699)
I certainly hope I can afford a Wrigley condo!


Sorry, federal law won't permit housing to be built on contaminated land.
   23. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:23 AM (#4396705)
Sorry, federal law won't permit housing to be built on contaminated land.

They should turn it into a children's zoo when it's stop being a stadium. Pet the goats, feed the goats, pet the goats, feed the goats...
   24. zonk Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:25 AM (#4396708)
I certainly hope I can afford a Wrigley condo!



Sorry, federal law won't permit housing to be built on contaminated land.


Was Moises Alou's callous building habit really that extensive? Well, I guess if you had the fandom into the mix...
   25. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:42 AM (#4396736)
   26. Hack Wilson Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:45 AM (#4396741)
As to Wrigley my instructions to my daughter/grandkids are to spread my ashes on the Wrigley vines (I believe the Cubs charge for this) after I die (another 100+ loss year in 2013 should do it). So if there are Wrigley condos my instructions will be to knock on the condo owner's door and when they answer throw the ashes at them. If they have lived there long enough they will be so uncoordinated they will fall down chasing them.
   27. McCoy Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:48 AM (#4396744)
The Cubs have no set policy but they very rarely give permission to allow it and they don't allow any publicity or fanfare over it. They don't allow you to do it during a game.



   28. just plain joe Posted: March 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM (#4396784)
The Cubs have no set policy but they very rarely give permission to allow it and they don't allow any publicity or fanfare over it. They don't allow you to do it during a game.


Churchill Downs allowed my aunt to scatter my uncle's ashes at the start/finish line, per his request. I'm sure the track doesn't advertise or promote this service but the employees that escorted us out onto the track were very respectful and professional about the whole process. Apparently they get several requests for this type of thing a year; from what I understand the only requirement is that it not happen during a race meet and you need to call several days in advance to get it set up.
   29. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: March 26, 2013 at 12:46 PM (#4396817)
The Cubs have no set policy but they very rarely give permission to allow it and they don't allow any publicity or fanfare over it. They don't allow you to do it during a game.


Perhaps my memory is off but didn't somebody spread ashes guerilla-style during a game?
   30. McCoy Posted: March 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM (#4396826)
In 1995 while playing against the Astros and Luis Gonzalez in left field.
   31. Publius Publicola Posted: March 26, 2013 at 01:45 PM (#4396869)
Bush Stadium’s stone art deco entrance and flanking brick walls have been incorporated into the new building,


Not much there worth saving, if you ask me:

Bush stadium entrance

Edit: Actual photograph appears not to be linked
   32. smileyy Posted: March 26, 2013 at 02:09 PM (#4396885)

My money is on the ballfield not existing by the time they actually have people move in to the units. It just isn't a real selling point and it contains a lot of unnecessary costs that creates no real value to the property or to the tenants.


Its kind of sad that that evaluates to true.
   33. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 26, 2013 at 04:10 PM (#4397011)
   34. vortex of dissipation Posted: March 26, 2013 at 06:16 PM (#4397144)
I was at this game a few years ago at Safeco Field where a fan rushed onto the field and tried to scatter his mother's ashes. The Mariners have a strict rule prohibiting ashes being scattered on the field, and prosecute those who try to do so.
   35. Bob Tufts Posted: March 26, 2013 at 06:23 PM (#4397146)
Is there an "Eight Men Out" themed Charlie Sheen condo?
   36. John Northey Posted: March 26, 2013 at 06:33 PM (#4397151)
Sheesh - how hard would it be to have a rule that they can be spread on an off-day, followed by the grounds crew basically raking it into the dirt? Yeah, a bit creepy to think of people's ashes being at your feet, but realistically I'm sure we've all stepped on ashes of the dead without knowing it. Heck, a comic book writer had his ashes put into the ink for a printing of a collection of comics he did years ago so thousands of fans have his ashes at their homes, many without knowing it I'm sure.
   37. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 26, 2013 at 07:37 PM (#4397188)
Leaving the baseball field would probably lead to considerable window damage. Well worth it, of course, but some people are so sensitive about a little property damage.
   38. madvillain Posted: March 26, 2013 at 07:55 PM (#4397192)
I was going to post about Detroit, but #20 nailed it. That ship has sailed, and nobody wants to live there anyways.
   39. Howie Menckel Posted: March 26, 2013 at 09:10 PM (#4397215)

ftfy

"future stars like Paul Konerko"

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