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Indians Designate Johnny Damon For Assignment

Yugoloth a job.

The Indians announced that they designated Johnny Damon for assignment…

The 38-year-old didn’t provide much offense, hitting just .222/.281/.329 with four home runs in 224 plate appearances as a left fielder and designated hitter. Damon now has 2769 hits, 235 home runs and 408 stolen bases in his 18-year career.

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1. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:32 PM (#4200009)

Question I asked in the lounge: Damon played for eight teams - all AL, no NL. I asked there if anyone can top or beat those -- in other words, what's the most teams anyone has played for in one league without ever playing in the other league?

Davo noted that Juan Beniquez has been on eight AL teams but no NL teams.

Can anyone top that?

2. Guapo Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:41 PM (#4200014)

I think Lenny Harris has 8 NL teams, no AL teams.

3. Ziggy Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4200018)

*plays Taps*

4. Guapo Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:45 PM (#4200020)

Also, I think Damon only played for 7 teams.

5. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:46 PM (#4200022)

Beniquez is the only all-AL eight-team player. Damon's only played for seven. There are a few eight-team NL players, including Gary Bennett and Chris Jones, modern players who I don't remember at all.

Jack Glasscock played for eight NL teams before the AL existed, but he also spent a year in the Union Association. More importantly, Jack Glasscock.

6. Guapo Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:46 PM (#4200023)

I found another one: Gary Bennett. 8 NL teams, 0 AL teams.

EDIT: I fought The Long Arm of Rudy Law, and The Long Arm of Rudy Law won.

7. Danny Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:49 PM (#4200027)

Livan almost makes it--but he spent part of a season in Minnesota.

8. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:50 PM (#4200029)

EDIT: I fought The Long Arm of Rudy Law, and The Long Arm of Rudy Law won.

And now you must break Rock Raines in the hot sun.

9. gef the talking mongoose Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:52 PM (#4200035)

Extremely well played, both of you.

10. Nasty Nate Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:52 PM (#4200036)

Ok, the Red Sox are a mess. I say they sign Damon and the recently DFA-ed Lowe. I don't even care if they play, but every night's postgame press conference would be those two and Ortiz joking around, telling stories about Manny and the rest of the '03 and '04 teams, prank-calling Bellhorn etc instead of the usual depressing postgame presser of Kermit-voiced Valentine issuing inane and bumbling excuses or a sullen Lester or Beckett saying stupid things. Also, bring back the chicken n' beer.

11. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:53 PM (#4200038)

Dan Brouthers and Julian Tavarez are the only ones to play for nine teams in one league, but Brouthers spent a year in the American Association and a year in the Players League. Tavarez spent a lot of time in the AL. Beniquez and Ruben Sierra are the only ones to play for 8 AL teams.

12. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:54 PM (#4200040)

He didn't quite make it. Who's the next great hope for a middling player to reach 3000 hits?

Pierre's not gonna do it. Edgar Renteria looks done. Mike Young looks done.

Carl Crawford was perhaps the hope of the next generation, but he's lost two years now, and there's a case to be made that Crawford had the first half of a borderline HoF career. He was certainly better than Damon, Pierre, or Renteria.

EDIT: No, he wasn't much better than Damon. A Carl Crawford that chugged along at a 110 OPS+ with declining defense and baserunning isn't a bad comp for Damon.

13. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:55 PM (#4200041)

Reggie Sanders played for 7 NL teams but then ruined everything by ending his career with the Royals.

14. The District Attorney Posted: August 03, 2012 at 04:55 PM (#4200043)

Who's the next great hope for a middling player to reach 3000 hits?

Starlin!

15. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4200059)

Who's the next great hope for a middling player to reach 3000 hits?

You dismissed him, but I think among guys who are at least 2/3 of the way there it's Michael Young.

(I assume we are not counting Beltre as "marginal.")

16. SoSH U at work Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:10 PM (#4200067)

(I assume we are not counting Beltre as "marginal.")

He's not a middling player because of his position and defense, but Beltre could very well end up with some middling career offensive numbers and 3,000 hits.

17. Ray (RDP)

Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:10 PM (#4200070)

231 hits shy, and now running on fumes. And we can't say he wasn't given a shot by the Indians.

I think one more team might take a flyer on him, but I really can't see another 231 hits.

----

The Sox should sign Damon, Lowe, Manny, Pedro, and Clemens to finish out the year.

18. RJ in TO Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:12 PM (#4200073)

He didn't quite make it. Who's the next great hope for a middling player to reach 3000 hits?

Paul Konerko is at 2100 hits, and still going strong. On a rate basis, by WAR, he's been a roughly average player for his career.

19. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:16 PM (#4200076)

There are a few eight-team NL players, including Gary Bennett and Chris Jones, modern players who I don't remember at all.

When they start giving out an award for career backup catchers they're going to call it the Gary Bennett Memorial Trophy.

Bennett was my backup catcher on a long series of Diamond Mind teams, and put up a couple of small sample size fluke splits against lefties that made him an awesome platoon catcher and lefty-killing pinch hitter. He went 400/462/600 against righties in 2006. God bless Gary Bennett.

20. Tippecanoe Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:21 PM (#4200081)

Beltre could very well end up with some middling career offensive numbers and 3,000 hits

Currently at 110 OPS+. If he makes it to 3000 but falls to 109 OPS+, he'd be equal to...Lou Brock!

21. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:22 PM (#4200084)

Matt Holliday will be halfway there by the end of the season. He got a late start, but he'd been chucking out 180-190 hits a year pretty consistently until missing time last season, and he's on pace for 193 this year. All he's got to do is keep that up till he's 40, and he's in.

22. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4200089)

Mark Sweeney was the first name that came to mind, but he only played for seven teams, all in the NL.

Dan Brouthers and Julian Tavarez are the only ones to play for nine teams in one league

I honestly have no memory of Tavarez playing for anyone other than the Indians. That is kinda amazing to me that he played for 11 teams.

23. villageidiom Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:26 PM (#4200091)

prank-calling Bellhorn etc

(phone rings)

Damon, Lowe: tee hee!

(phone is answered) Hello?

Lowe: Hello, is this Curt Schilling?

Curt: Yes.

Lowe: Mr. Schilling, is your company running?

Damon: Tee hee!

Curt: Uh, no.

Damon: WELL YOU BETTER GO CATCH IT!

Lowe: You idiot! He said no! Now that makes no sense. YOU RUINED THE WHOLE THING!

Curt: Damon, is that you?

Damon: What? No. I get that a lot. Who's Johnny Damon?

Lowe: SHUT UP! He said Damon, not Johnny Damon.

Damon: Damon who?

Lowe: Just hang up! HANG UP!

(click)

Shonda: Who was it?

Curt: Just another prank call.

Shonda: I thought we had a restraining order on Millar already.

Curt: We do. But it was Damon and Lowe this time.

(doorbell rings)

Curt: I'll get it.

(Opens door, sees a pile of towels, aflame on his front steps. Stomps out the flames and finds his feet covered in ####.)

Curt: (shaking his fist) MANNY!

24. BochysFingers Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:36 PM (#4200102)

Moises Alou: seven NL teams, no AL. And this for a guy who really should have been a DH for like the last 10 years of his career.

25. BochysFingers Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:39 PM (#4200106)

what I want to see is a player perform for all the teams in one division, and no other team.

26. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:40 PM (#4200107)

Who's the next great hope for a middling player to reach 3000 hits?

Nick Markakis is a guy in his 20s with a long shot chance to make a Damonic run at 3000.

Another idea -- a long shot and a loooong way off, but maybe Delmon Young is our man. Through age 26 he's ahead of Damon & Pierre's pace, and not all that far behind Jeter's. He started young. He doesn't walk. He has no defensive value. He also has some hitting talent and is still young enough to improve to the point that he can have a long career hitting 300/340/440 for mediocre teams. At the very least he has a chance to make a run at Billy Buckner and Ruben Sierra as the player with the lowest WAR and 2000+ hits in the post-integration era.

EDIT: Hell, at his current pace of 1 WAR over his first 900 hits, Young would be at 3.3 WAR when he got his 3000th hit, thus crushing Doc Cramer (4.2 WAR, 2705 hits) as the lowest WAR player with 2000+ hits. This is an entirely scientific analysis and I am certain that it will turn out this way.

27. Dale Sams Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:46 PM (#4200115)

but Beltre could very well end up with some middling career offensive numbers and 3,000 hits.

450 hrs and 1500 rbis isn't middling for a 3B.

28. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:49 PM (#4200120)

Id be surprised if Delmon Young is in the majors in five years.

29. Double-Spin Mechanic Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:57 PM (#4200124)

As a Tiger fan, I'm a bit miffed that he's in the majors right now.

30. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: August 03, 2012 at 05:57 PM (#4200125)

I'd be surprised if Delmon Young is in the majors in five years.

Realistically, me too. But he has the talent to turn his 266/297/404 into 306/337/444, which keeps him around a while. I brought him up because there's no other poor player with anything like Young's shot at 2500+ hits.

31. Kurt Posted: August 03, 2012 at 06:04 PM (#4200131)

450 hrs and 1500 rbis isn't middling for a 3B.

450 hrs and 1500 rbis isn't middling for anybody.

32. Tippecanoe Posted: August 03, 2012 at 06:14 PM (#4200139)

Well, for Damon to have made it, he'd have collected close to 1,800 runs scored, which is not middling either.

If you make it to 3000 hits, you'll have counting stats of some kind. Damon, Beltre, Brock, Young all have rate stats, not counting stats, that are middling.

33. Walt Davis Posted: August 03, 2012 at 06:23 PM (#4200149)

Who's the next great hope for a middling player to reach 3000 hits?

Ichiro? :-)

34. The District Attorney Posted: August 03, 2012 at 06:25 PM (#4200154)

Nope, he already did it.

35. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: August 03, 2012 at 06:25 PM (#4200155)

Vizquel is about seven years away from 3000.

36. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines Posted: August 03, 2012 at 06:26 PM (#4200159)

what I want to see is a player perform for all the teams in one division, and no other team.

Brian Schneider has played for 4 of the 6 NL East teams.

37. Kiko Sakata

Posted: August 03, 2012 at 06:38 PM (#4200169)

what I want to see is a player perform for all the teams in one division, and no other team.

Nolan Ryan played for the first four expansion teams - Mets, Angels, Astros, Rangers - and no other teams.

38. Repoz

Posted: August 03, 2012 at 06:39 PM (#4200170)

but Beltre could very well end up with some middling career offensive numbers and 3,000 hits.

Counting wise...he also has a shot at ending up top 10/20 in 2B's.

39. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: August 03, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4200176)

Steve Finley and Matt Herges played for all the current NL West teams, and Mark McLemore and Gene Nelson played for everyone in the AL West. I think they're the only ones to have covered an entire division, but they also played for other teams. Nelson will fall off the list next year when Houston goes to the AL West, but Ted Savage will then have played for all the NL Central teams.

40. Srul Itza Posted: August 03, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4200181)

Damon is done, proving once again that getting to 3,000 is in fact damn hard to do.

Remember when people said Roberto Alomar was a lock? Remember when I-Rod was going to do it as a catcher?

41. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: August 03, 2012 at 07:11 PM (#4200192)

Damon now has 2769 hits, 235 home runs and 408 stolen bases in his 18-year career.

pretty exclusive group

42. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: August 03, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4200207)

Ichiro should finish this year well over 2600. 3 more years at 165 / 140 / 95?

43. Loren F. Posted: August 03, 2012 at 08:23 PM (#4200243)

Ichiro has so far put up an OPS+ of 81 in 2012, including a solid 66 for the Yankees. His defense in RF, which is not a defense-first position, is no longer anything special. I would be shocked if he is still in the majors in 2015.

44. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: August 03, 2012 at 09:10 PM (#4200287)

Damon is done, proving once again that getting to 3,000 is in fact damn hard to do.

Remember when people said Roberto Alomar was a lock? Remember when I-Rod was going to do it as a catcher?

They never learn.

45. Walt Davis Posted: August 03, 2012 at 10:06 PM (#4200314)

Brian Schneider has played for 4 of the 6 NL East teams.

Neat trick.

46. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: August 03, 2012 at 10:09 PM (#4200316)

450 hrs and 1500 rbis isn't middling for anybody.

Dave Kingman says hell.

47. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 03, 2012 at 10:15 PM (#4200319)

Dave Kingman says hell.

I smell a rat in the clubhouse!

48. Chris Fluit Posted: August 03, 2012 at 10:37 PM (#4200328)

Eric Hinske played for 4 of the 5 teams in the AL East- Toronto, Boston, Tampa and New York. It would have been consecutive too except he spent 50 games with Pittsburgh before going to the Yankees.. He's also spent the last three seasons with Atlanta. Come on, Baltimore! Acquire Hinske so he can complete the set!

49. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: August 03, 2012 at 10:44 PM (#4200330)

Ichiro should finish this year well over 2600. 3 more years at 165 / 140 / 95?

He could hit .165 if he wanted to.

50. Brian White Posted: August 03, 2012 at 10:45 PM (#4200331)

Bruce Chen's first four teams were all in the NL East. Only the Marlins missed out.

51. Chris Fluit Posted: August 03, 2012 at 10:48 PM (#4200332)

Just remembered: Jose Canseco played for the same 4 AL East teams (Boston, Toronto, Tampa, New York) though he of course played a lot longer for Oakland and Texas (and finished up with the White Sox). That also gets him to 7 AL teams/no NL.

52. Horror Posted: August 03, 2012 at 10:58 PM (#4200334)

All AL, no NL:

Eddie Robinson 8 CLE,CHA,NYA,WS1,KC1,BAL,PHA,DET
Juan Beniquez 8 BOS,TEX,CAL,TOR,BAL,NYA,KCA,SEA
Woodie Held 7 CHA,NYA,CLE,CAL,KC1,BAL,WS2
Don Mincher 7 MIN,CAL,TEX,OAK,SE1,WS2,WS1
Jose Canseco 7 OAK,TEX,CHA,BOS,TBA,TOR,NYA

All NL, no AL:

Dan Brouthers 9 TRN,BFN,BSN,LS3,DTN,BLN,BRO,PHI,NY1
Jack Glasscock 8 PIT,CL2,IN3,SLN,SL5,NY1,LS3,WSN
Gary Bennett 8 PHI,MIL,COL,SLN,NYN,WAS,SDN,LAN
Chris Jones 8 COL,ARI,CIN,NYN,SFN,HOU,SDN,MIL
Lenny Harris 8 CIN,LAN,NYN,FLO,ARI,CHN,COL,MIL
Walker Cooper 7 SLN,NY1,BSN,CHN,CIN,PIT,ML1
Joe Schultz 7 BSN,SLN,PHI,PIT,BRO,CHN,CIN
Jerry Denny 7 PRO,IN3,CL4,NY1,LS3,PHI,SL5
Manuel Aybar 7 CIN,NYN,SLN,SFN,FLO,COL,CHN
Moises Alou 7 MON,HOU,CHN,NYN,SFN,FLO,PIT
Manuel Aybar 7 SLN,SFN,FLO,COL,CHN,CIN,NYN
Shad Barry 7 BSN,PHI,SLN,CIN,NY1,CHN,WSN
Frank Thomas 7 PIT,CHN,PHI,CIN,NYN,ML1,HOU
Shawn Estes 7 SFN,NYN,SDN,COL,CIN,ARI,CHN
Mark Sweeney 7 SLN,CIN,COL,LAN,SDN,SFN,MIL
Mike Sullivan 7 WS8,WSN,BSN,CIN,NY1,CHN,CL4
Jim Donnelly 7 WS8,NY1,DTN,BLN,SLN,KCN,PIT

53. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: August 03, 2012 at 11:02 PM (#4200337)

Dave Kingman says hell.

Kingman his own self played in all 4 divisions (that existed at the time) in 1977.
His line for the Yanquis is notable: 250/333/833 --24 AB, 6 hits, 4 of them dingers

54. RMc and His Roster of Rubbish Posted: August 03, 2012 at 11:34 PM (#4200357)

This is an entirely scientific analysis and I am certain that it will turn out this way.

It's based on actual math!

55. Horror Posted: August 03, 2012 at 11:40 PM (#4200359)

He could hit .165 if he wanted to.

He could...but 140 homers with 95 RBI? I don't think he could do that even if he wanted to.

56. SoSH U at work Posted: August 03, 2012 at 11:45 PM (#4200360)

Damon is done, proving once again that getting to 3,000 is in fact damn hard to do.

Remember when people said Roberto Alomar was a lock? Remember when I-Rod was going to do it as a catcher?

Hell, I remember when a guy bet me a BBRef sponsorship Damon would get there.

I think the payoff is coming soon, Mr. DiPerna.

57. Horror Posted: August 03, 2012 at 11:47 PM (#4200361)

In 2007 it seemed impossible that Renteria wouldn't get there. Man, he fell apart quickly.

58. Mayor Blomberg Posted: August 03, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4200364)

Manuel Aybar 7 CIN,NYN,SLN,SFN,FLO,COL,CHN
Moises Alou 7 MON,HOU,CHN,NYN,SFN,FLO,PIT
Manuel Aybar 7 SLN,SFN,FLO,COL,CHN,CIN,NYN

Two Manny Aybars played for the same seven teams in different order?

59. Horror Posted: August 04, 2012 at 12:26 AM (#4200377)

58 -- yes. :)

Hm, lahmandb and wikipedia have Edgar Renteria born 1975, but BBRef says '76. Interesting. Even BR Bullpen says '75. Huh.

60. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance Posted: August 04, 2012 at 12:57 AM (#4200387)

He could...but 140 homers with 95 RBI? I don't think he could do that even if he wanted to.

That's a job for Matt Wieters.

61. vortex of dissipation Posted: August 04, 2012 at 01:20 AM (#4200394)

Eddie Robinson 8 CLE,CHA,NYA,WS1,KC1,BAL,PHA,DET

Those are both the same team - the Athletics. Robinson played for seven of the then-eight AL clubs, missing only the Red Sox.

62. Horror Posted: August 04, 2012 at 02:21 AM (#4200398)

Good catch. There are probably a couple of those.

Most AL franchises:

Ruben Sierra 8 TEX,OAK,DET,TOR,CHA,SEA,NYA,MIN
Juan Beniquez 8 BOS,TEX,NYA,SEA,CAL,BAL,KCA,TOR
Ed Farmer 7 CLE,DET,BAL,ML4,TEX,CHA,OAK
Ken Sanders 7 BOS,KC1,OAK,ML4,CLE,MIN,CAL,KCA
Mike Morgan 7 OAK,NYA,TOR,SEA,BAL,MIN,TEX
Ken Sanders 7 BOS,KC1,OAK,ML4,MIN,CAL,CLE,KCA
Woodie Held 7 NYA,KC1,CLE,WS2,BAL,CAL,CHA
Jamie Quirk 7 KCA,ML4,CHA,CLE,BAL,NYA,OAK
Ken Brett 7 BOS,ML4,CHA,NYA,CAL,MIN,KCA
Jose Canseco 7 TEX,BOS,OAK,TOR,NYA,TBA,CHA
Phil Roof 7 CAL,CLE,KC1,OAK,ML4,CHA,MIN,TOR
Greg Cadaret 7 OAK,NYA,KCA,DET,TOR,ANA,TEX
Sal Fasano 7 KCA,OAK,ANA,BAL,NYA,TOR,CLE
Eddie Robinson 7 CLE,WS1,CHA,PHA,KC1,NYA,BAL,DET
Pat Borders 7 TOR,KCA,CAL,CHA,CLE,SEA,MIN

Most NL franchises:

Julian Tavarez 9 SFN,COL,CHN,FLO,PIT,SLN,ATL,MIL,WAS
Dan Brouthers 9 TRN,BFN,DTN,BSN,BRO,BLN,LS3,PHI,NY1
Lenny Harris 8 CIN,LAN,NYN,ARI,COL,MIL,CHN,FLO
Henry Blanco 8 LAN,COL,MIL,ATL,CHN,SDN,NYN,ARI
Gary Bennett 8 PHI,COL,NYN,SDN,MIL,WAS,SLN,LAN
Jack Glasscock 8 CL2,SL5,IN3,NY1,SLN,PIT,LS3,WSN
Chris Jones 8 CIN,HOU,COL,NYN,SDN,ARI,SFN,MIL
Ron Villone 8 SDN,CIN,COL,HOU,PIT,FLO,SLN,WAS
Todd Zeile 8 SLN,CHN,PHI,LAN,FLO,NYN,COL,MON
Paul Bako 8 HOU,ATL,FLO,MIL,CHN,LAN,CIN,PHI
Elmer Dessens 8 PIT,CIN,ARI,LAN,COL,MIL,ATL,NYN

Most total franchises:

Octavio Dotel 13 NYN,HOU,OAK,NYA,ATL,KCA,CHA,COL,LAN,PIT,SLN,TOR,DET
Mike Morgan 12 OAK,NYA,TOR,SEA,BAL,LAN,CHN,SLN,CIN,MIN,TEX,ARI
Matt Stairs 12 MON,BOS,OAK,CHN,MIL,PIT,KCA,DET,TEX,TOR,PHI,SDN,WAS
Ron Villone 12 SDN,SEA,ML4,CLE,CIN,COL,HOU,PIT,FLO,NYA,SLN,WAS

63. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: August 04, 2012 at 03:09 AM (#4200402)

The Renteria birthdate thing is a known controversy. Back in the day it was considered an "open secret" that despite being listed as born in 1975, Renteria was actually born in 1976, meaning he would not be old enough to be signed when the Marlins signed him. Much like the Adrian Beltre case where he initially was listed as a 1978 birth year.

The retirement stories in the spring all said he was 35, and of course if he was born in 1975 he would have been 36. I'm not sure, but I'd put my money on the 1976 birthday.

64. Walt Davis Posted: August 04, 2012 at 04:24 AM (#4200406)

He could...but 140 homers with 95 RBI? I don't think he could do that even if he wanted to.

140 is the OBP (lots of SFs) but, alas, even Ichiro can't ISO a -70 -- lord knows he's tried!

65. Matt Chico's Bail Bonds (Dan Lee) Posted: August 04, 2012 at 10:40 AM (#4200452)

Seems like a lot of the guys on the "most franchises" lists were either backup catchers or reasonably decent players who weren't quite good enough to get a franchise to commit to them as a long-term option. And then there's...

Chris Jones 8 CIN,HOU,COL,NYN,SDN,ARI,SFN,MIL

An outfielder without speed or power, who didn't get on base, who could fake CF but not all that well, who somehow managed to spend parts of 9 seasons in MLB with 8 clubs, never getting more than 209 AB in a season or more than 331 AB with any one franchise. That's a really impressive career in its own weird way.

66. booond Posted: August 04, 2012 at 11:02 AM (#4200460)

That's a really impressive career in its own weird way.

Naked pictures? Good in the clubhouse? Or is that the same thing?

67. JE (Jason Epstein)

Posted: August 04, 2012 at 11:47 AM (#4200476)

It's mildly interesting that Dotel has played for 13 teams but never the same club twice.

68. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 04, 2012 at 12:36 PM (#4200495)

It's mildly interesting that Dotel has played for 13 teams but never the same club twice.

I think I've pointed this out before, but before he got dealt to St. Louis last year, Octavio Dotel had played for 11 teams, and Russell Branyan had played for 10, yet they had never played for the same franchise at any time in their careers.

On July 26th, 2011:

Dotel (1999-2011): NYM, HOU, OAK, NYY, KCR, ATL, CHW, PIT, LAD, COL, TOR
Branyan (1998-2011): CLE, CIN, MIL, TB, SDP, PHI, STL, SEA, ARI, LAA

And they'd only faced each other in a game 3 times.

69. Gern Blanston Posted: August 04, 2012 at 12:46 PM (#4200503)

EDIT: I fought The Long Arm of Rudy Law, and The Long Arm of Rudy Law won.

And now you must break Rock Raines in the hot sun.

Fantastic.

70. Gern Blanston Posted: August 04, 2012 at 12:49 PM (#4200505)

Currently at 110 OPS+. If he makes it to 3000 but falls to 109 OPS+, he'd be equal to...Lou Brock!

Other than, y'know, the difference between an awesome defensive third baseman and a mediocre defensive left fielder. (Apologies in advance if my sarc-detector's on the fritz...)

71. Tippecanoe Posted: August 04, 2012 at 12:57 PM (#4200509)

No, I wasn't really suggesting that they were of the same value as players.

72. TomH Posted: August 04, 2012 at 02:26 PM (#4200544)

Damon is 31st alltime in runs scored. The only active players ahead of him are the two old Yankees. No active player is gonna catch him real soon. Pujols probably will.

73. Horror Posted: August 04, 2012 at 02:43 PM (#4200552)

ZiPS had Damon at 2,795 hits through 2012. Not a bad guess from 2008!

74. Ray (RDP)

Posted: August 05, 2012 at 05:20 PM (#4201067)

Hell, I remember when a guy bet me a BBRef sponsorship Damon would get there.

I think the payoff is coming soon, Mr. DiPerna.

I have a vague recollection that I bet a BBRef sponsorship with you but have no memory of the specifics. But I'll take your word for it. I presume I had bet that Damon would get to 3000 (?). So if he goes unsigned through April of 2013, I'll pay up.

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