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Indians sweep Orioles, win 18th straight | MLB.com

Indians still can’t lose.

Jim Furtado Posted: September 11, 2017 at 06:19 AM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: September 11, 2017 at 05:27 PM (#5529874)
Indians passed the Astros for best record in AL.
   2. Walt Davis Posted: September 11, 2017 at 05:40 PM (#5529878)
During the streak, they're hitting 309/387/568 (a team ISO of 259!) and have scored about 6.7 r/g. In the 162 IP, they've got a 163/33 K/BB and 11 HR allowed with an ERA of 1.78 and not a single unearned run. The game log summary doesn't give a slash line but it's around 205/254/291. Only 3 of 18 wins are by 1 run.
   3. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 11, 2017 at 06:10 PM (#5529886)
Alex‏ @nullster 5h5 hours ago

From @jonahkeri : On June 14, Cleveland stood at 31–31, having scored 11 more runs than the team had allowed. Since then: 56–25, +198.


The run differential during the streak is about half of that. They have hit more HRs than total runs allowed. They've trailed for only 4 innings in those 18 games.

I might be misremembering one or two of those slightly, but this is so impressive.
   4. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: September 11, 2017 at 08:03 PM (#5529926)
I might be misremembering one or two of those slightly, but this is so impressive.


It really is. It seems the A's had some magic in that 20 gamer. This has just been ruthless efficiency.
   5. PeteF3 Posted: September 11, 2017 at 08:38 PM (#5529937)
And now the Tribe has a 7-0 lead in the 4th. This has been the story of the streak--in almost every game it seems they're putting up a crooked number before the other team even has a chance to breathe. And when Kluber or late-season Bauer is on the mound when that happens, it's like the game is over before it even begins. They really haven't even needed Andrew Miller because they rarely even have tight leads to protect late.
   6. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 11, 2017 at 08:49 PM (#5529939)
I'm sure the Indians will tie the '47 Yankees tonight and likely beat the '35 Cubs on Thursday, but that 18 game win streak by the '53 Yankees wasn't too shabby either. The last 14 of that streak were compiled by sweeping an entire "Western swing" through Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit and Cleveland. AFAIK only the 1916 Giants had ever done that before, during their 17 game streak when they swept through the West with a 13-0 record.

But here's the topper: When those '53 Yankees returned home, they lost their first game to the 7th place Browns, who themselves snapped a 14 game losing streak. Whitey Ford took the loss, and it was his first loss ever as a starter after he'd won his first 16 starts in the Majors. Johnny Mize got his 2000th hit in the loss, and Satchel Paige came out of the bullpen in the 9th to strike out Mickey Mantle and get the save. All in all, it may have been one of the bigger upsets in Major League history.
   7. Nasty Nate Posted: September 11, 2017 at 08:56 PM (#5529945)
There was Rocktober in '07, so this is ... SepTriber?
   8. spycake Posted: September 11, 2017 at 08:58 PM (#5529948)
But here's the topper: When those '53 Yankees returned home, they lost their first game to the 7th place Browns, who themselves snapped a 14 game losing streak. Whitey Ford took the loss, and it was his first loss ever as a starter after he'd won his first 16 starts in the Majors. Johnny Mize got his 2000th hit in the loss, and Satchel Paige came out of the bullpen in the 9th to strike out Mickey Mantle and get the save. All in all, it may have been one of the bigger upsets in Major League history.


30,000 saw that, it must have been a heck of a game.

Then they hopped off the bandwagon as the next day's game drew only 9,000.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 11, 2017 at 09:16 PM (#5529955)
19 is pretty much in the bag.
   10. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: September 11, 2017 at 09:19 PM (#5529959)
How did I miss this? This is cool.
   11. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 11, 2017 at 09:22 PM (#5529961)
But here's the topper: When those '53 Yankees returned home, they lost their first game to the 7th place Browns, who themselves snapped a 14 game losing streak. Whitey Ford took the loss, and it was his first loss ever as a starter after he'd won his first 16 starts in the Majors. Johnny Mize got his 2000th hit in the loss, and Satchel Paige came out of the bullpen in the 9th to strike out Mickey Mantle and get the save. All in all, it may have been one of the bigger upsets in Major League history.

30,000 saw that, it must have been a heck of a game.


Yeah, I'd say so, since the Yankees were looking to tie their own AL record and Ford was shooting for his 17th straight win as a starter.

Then they hopped off the bandwagon as the next day's game drew only 9,000.

Well, back then there was a big difference in the sort of crowds that midweek night games and day games used to draw, and that second game was a day game. In 1953 the Yankees had only 14 scheduled home night games for the entire season, and that first game against the Browns was only made into a night game in anticipation of a large walkup crowd. BB-Reference must have depended on the original schedule, since it mistakenly called it a day game.
   12. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 11, 2017 at 09:36 PM (#5529965)
They've trailed for only 4 innings in those 18 games.


4 innings out of 162. A now soon to be 4 out of 171 innings.

That is just insane. Of course they'll be bounced in the first round of the playoffs by the wild card winner...introducing your Minnesota Twins!
   13. Baldrick Posted: September 11, 2017 at 09:42 PM (#5529966)
What a weird season this has been. The Cleveland streak coinciding so closely with the impossible Dodgers catastrophe only makes them both seem that much weirder.
   14. Man o' Schwar Posted: September 11, 2017 at 09:56 PM (#5529969)
The Cleveland streak coinciding so closely with the impossible Dodgers catastrophe only makes them both seem that much weirder.

Imagine if they were in the same division, and over the last 20 days the Indians had made up about 16 games in the standings.
   15. Walt Davis Posted: September 12, 2017 at 12:35 AM (#5529996)
Imagine if they were in the same division, and over the last 20 days the Indians had made up about 16 games in the standings.

Not the same thing of course but the Astros did have an 8-game lead when the streak began, now 1.5 behind. They're just a half-game off the Nats and 4.5 games off the Dodgers (could be 4 by the end of the day) for best record overall.(They were 20 back of the Dodgers before the streak).
   16. TomH Posted: September 12, 2017 at 07:54 AM (#5530026)
what would be weirdererest is if the Indians suddenly lost 8 of 9 or so beginning todsy.
   17. TomH Posted: September 12, 2017 at 07:57 AM (#5530027)
How important is momentum? I introduce Artifact #1: the Dodgers are betting favorites to win tonight's road game with the Giants "-260", or 72%-28%. I guess the old adage the "momentum is tomorrow's starting pitcher" applies when Kerhsaw takes the mound.
Would they be about 80%-20% favorites if they had won 11 (instead of 1) of their last 16? I don't even think the needle would move that much. Maybe 80-20 if they will still hot AND they were home.
   18. SoSH U at work Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:19 AM (#5530076)

Would they be about 80%-20% favorites if they had won 11 (instead of 1) of their last 16? I don't even think the needle would move that much. Maybe 80-20 if they will still hot AND they were home.


You should be able to find your answer with whatever odds exist for the Tribe-Tigers game tonight, when Cleveland has Kluber in a home start against Matthew Boyd.

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