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Thursday, December 21, 2017

Indians to sign Yonder Alonso

On Wednesday night, sources confirmed to MLB.com that Alonso’s deal with the Indians will be worth $16 million and will include an $8 million vesting option for 2020. The contract is pending a physical, which is scheduled for Thursday. The club has not confirmed any agreement. Once complete, Alonso will take over at first base, where Santana played for the past few seasons before leaving via free agency this offseason.
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Overall, Alonso had a 43.2 percent fly-ball rate in ‘17, compared to 33.3 percent in ‘16 and 34.3 percent for his career. That increase was driven by a stellar start to the season with Oakland. From Opening Day through June 22, when Alonso’s season OPS was at least 1.000 for the last time last summer, he hit .296 with a .611 slugging percentage and a 50.7 percent fly-ball rate in 234 plate appearances. Over the final 78 games (287 plate appearances), Alonso hit .242 with a .411 slugging percentage and a 37.2 percent fly-ball rate.

Jim Furtado Posted: December 21, 2017 at 06:01 AM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. TDF didn't lie, he just didn't remember Posted: December 21, 2017 at 09:36 AM (#5596142)
Alonzo was highly regarded prospect back in the day, and there was a significant part of Reds fandom that thought the Reds should've traded Votto for Latos instead because (1) they would've saved money (Votto was MVP in '10 (Alonzo's cup of coffee year) and entering his arb years), (2) he was at least as good as Votto (he hit .330 in '11, Votto .309), and (3) Marty said Votto sucked because he walked all the time - which Alonzo certainly didn't.

P.S. - In 8 pro seasons, Alonzo has 7.9 bWAR over 2864 PA; Votto had 7.5 bWAR in 704 PA last season.
   2. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: December 21, 2017 at 12:00 PM (#5596250)
there was a significant part of Reds fandom that thought the Reds should've traded Votto for Latos instead

Seriously? I don't remember that at all.
   3. TDF didn't lie, he just didn't remember Posted: December 21, 2017 at 01:26 PM (#5596322)
Seriously? I don't remember that at all.
Maybe it was just the nutjobs I heard from, but it was certainly out there.
   4. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: December 21, 2017 at 01:47 PM (#5596332)
I do recall some debate in the Reds' blogosphere about whether Grandal would turn out better than Mesoraco. Aside from 2014, he has.
   5. Ziggy: The Platonic Form of Russell Branyan Posted: December 21, 2017 at 02:12 PM (#5596352)
Grandal was the one that it hurt to lose. Alonso, meh. He was a prospect, but there wasn't much more to say about him than that.
   6. Rally Posted: December 21, 2017 at 03:02 PM (#5596400)
Alonso is only one year younger than Santana. For some reason that seems weird, but I see that they both debuted in the same year, 2010. Maybe it's because Santana was the hitter he is now from day one, where Alonso took a long time to develop.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: December 21, 2017 at 03:58 PM (#5596481)
I recall there was a lot of debate linked here and taking place here among the prospect hounds as to just how good of a prospect Alonso was. That he, Grandal and Volquez are all still in the majors suggests the Reds really did give up a lot of talent in that trade. Heck, apparently even Boxberger was still active in 2017.

Another big effect of this trade is that the Padres apparently liked Alonso more than Rizzo allowing the Cubs to get Rizzo. The Padres acquired Alonso on Dec 17 and traded Rizzo on Jan 6. Merry Orthodox Christmas!!

Latos -- 9 WAR for Reds, 9 WAR for rest of career (that includes the Reds bit)
Alonso -- 6 WAR for Padres, 8 WAR total
Grandal -- 5 WAR for Padres, 11 WAR total
Volquez -- -1 WAR for Padres, 3 WAR total
Boxberger -- 0 WAR for Padres, 2 WAR total
Cashner -- 3 WAR for Padres, 7 WAR total
Rizzo -- 20 WAR for Cubs, 20 WAR total

Hey we win!!
   8. Sunday silence Posted: December 21, 2017 at 06:27 PM (#5596596)
Yonder lies the castle of Alonso.
   9. 'Spos Posted: December 21, 2017 at 09:42 PM (#5596645)
Fly balls to right are over Yonder?
   10. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: December 22, 2017 at 02:03 AM (#5596694)
Alonzo was highly regarded prospect back in the day,
The Padres, having traded Latos for Alonzo, felt freed to acquire Andrew Cashner from the Cubs for Anthony Rizzo. Nice move, Padres.
   11. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: December 22, 2017 at 02:48 AM (#5596697)
Yonder lies the castle of Alonso.
Bah! I came to this thread specifically to make this joke!
   12. vortex of dissipation Posted: December 22, 2017 at 03:59 AM (#5596700)
Fly balls to right are over Yonder?


Way over Yonder.

After the Mariners acquired Yonder this summer, I got out my copy of Carole King's "Tapestry", and played it for the first time in years. I'd forgotten what an incredibly strong album that is...
   13. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: December 22, 2017 at 09:24 AM (#5596742)
After the Mariners acquired Yonder this summer, I got out my copy of Carole King's "Tapestry", and played it for the first time in years. I'd forgotten what an incredibly strong album that is...

OK, I give, what's the connection? I'm guessing there is a song called "Yonder", which I don't remember?

I never bought "Tapestry" because "everybody" else had it. I spent my meager disposable income on some more esoteric album. "Tapestry" is terrific.
   14. vortex of dissipation Posted: December 22, 2017 at 12:52 PM (#5596916)
"Way Over Yonder" - a wonderful gospel-influenced ballad. Wasn't one of the hits, but it's a great song.
   15. Joe Bivens Recognizes the Kenyan Precedent Posted: December 22, 2017 at 05:19 PM (#5597000)
Carole King may have been the worst singer ever to record a best selling album. When she belts it out dogs howl in pain.
   16. Sunday silence Posted: December 22, 2017 at 06:47 PM (#5597020)
not sure of her singing, but at this point it sounds like she's batshi# crazy.
   17. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: December 22, 2017 at 07:36 PM (#5597030)
#14, thanks, I do vaguely remember that song upon listening.

#15, I can understand that her voice might grate, but it was laced with such longing that I liked it.
   18. . . . . . . . . . . Posted: December 22, 2017 at 08:49 PM (#5597037)
Just like the hitters with the most strikeouts are sometimes the most valuable players, because they’re so good at everything else, Carole King’s voice makes cats scatter but she had more song writing talent in her youth than, almost literally, the rest of the country collectively. ‘Specially when she was working with Goffin.

   19. Joe Bivens Recognizes the Kenyan Precedent Posted: December 22, 2017 at 08:53 PM (#5597039)
That's fine but shushy, Carole, for the love of all that is good and holy this blessed season.
   20. BDC Posted: December 22, 2017 at 09:39 PM (#5597044)
more song writing talent in her youth than, almost literally, the rest of the country collectively. ‘Specially when she was working with Goffin

Yes, the range in particular, from many R&B hits to Herman's Hermits to Steve & Eydie (and later James Taylor, after the Goffin years). There have been pop songwriters with more hits, but rarely in so many distinct styles.

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