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Wednesday, June 24, 2009

Inman: Rickey rants at A’s reunion

Rickey Henderson as you’ve never seen him! (much like Inspector Henderson’s eye-shredoozy take as Parisian police Inspector Lona!)

ON TODAY’S PLAYERS’ LOVE OF THE GAME

I don’t think they love the game like they should. If you love the game and feel like you’re going out there doing your best, you can’t have any pressure. Because you can’t do anything else, as long as you’re trying your best and having fun.

ON ANYONE TODAY THAT REMINDS HIM OF HIMSELF

I can’t say there’s a guy out there that reminds me of myself. I was not a one-dimensional guy. Players out there can’t do as many things as I could do on the ballfield. You got some fast guys out there I like. Jimmy Rollins is from here and I like him as a ballplayer. He used to follow me, and some of the stuff he carries out on the field, I see it in me. He has the heart. The ballplayers, to me, is lacking that, or lacking ‘Where do I want to go as a ballplayer? What do I want to be and achieve?’ Not, ‘What did I get?’ I don’t think you dig deep and say, ‘Can I accomplish what Willie Mays did? Can I accomplish what Ty and Willie did? What Babe Ruth did? What do we shoot for? We used to have films. We used to have to go to a room to look at film of the great ballplayers, to give you an idea of: ‘I want to be like that. I want to be like him. I want to be like Ty Cobb. Ty was crazy but stealing all kinds of bases. I wanted to be like Ty because he was aggressive. I don’t think the kids, I don’t think we teach them that. And I don’t think we teach them fundamentals. Now it’s one-dimensional. All we do is hit home runs. I played with Billy (Martin) and the BillyBall. We squeezed. We bunted ‘em over. We hit and run. We stole. We did the little things.

Repoz Posted: June 24, 2009 at 05:10 AM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bhaakon Posted: June 24, 2009 at 05:35 AM (#3230574)
Ty Cobb? Howe strangely appropriate. Even in retirement, the Rickey just keeps getting awesomer.
   2. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: June 24, 2009 at 05:37 AM (#3230579)
Hey you kids! Get off Rickey's lawn!
   3. Rich Rifkin Posted: June 24, 2009 at 05:58 AM (#3230583)
No one owns the 3rd person better than Rickey-be-Rickey:
Rickey was, as they say, in the john. You hear all the noise and everything shaking. Rickey thought it was the fans getting fired up for the game. When Rickey got out of there, they said, 'Did you feel the earthquake?' I said, 'No, Rickey didn't feel the earthquake. Rickey heard all the fans were yelling.' They said, 'You got to get outside.' So Rickey got dressed and went outside.
   4. BeanoCook Posted: June 24, 2009 at 06:05 AM (#3230587)
If I had to put together an all time lineup card in a game of Humans v Martians for Earth's survival, Rickey is batting leadoff.
   5. Cooperstown Schtick Posted: June 24, 2009 at 06:18 AM (#3230594)
I think there's more existing footage of Ty Cobb playing golf than there is of his playing baseball. Maybe Rickey wanted to be like Cobb because of how super fast he was moving in the film?
   6. Lassus Posted: June 24, 2009 at 06:32 AM (#3230600)
If I had to put together an all time lineup card in a game of Humans v Martians for Earth's survival, Rickey is batting leadoff.

Beano and I finally in complete agreement about something.

THAT THE MARTIANS ARE COMING!

(The Rickey thing, too.)
   7. Shock Posted: June 24, 2009 at 06:35 AM (#3230603)

If I had to put together an all time lineup card in a game of Humans v Martians for Earth's survival, Rickey is batting leadoff.


For which team?
   8. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: June 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM (#3230638)
If I had to put together an all time lineup card in a game of Humans v Martians for Earth's survival, Rickey is batting leadoff.


For which team?

Took it right out of my mouth.
   9. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: June 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM (#3230646)
Well, there definitely is nobody quite like Rickey out there, both in terms of perforamnce and personality. There was probably no everyday player in the 1980s who would make me stop what I was doing and watch his at bats more than Rickey. And if he got on base, I was stopping to see what he do on the bases, too.
   10. Twoey Guillen Posted: June 24, 2009 at 11:56 AM (#3230659)
He really takes his Man of Steal nickname seriously:

ON POSSIBLITY OF PLAYING FOR GIANTS IN WORLD SERIES

I could have been playing for the other side. And I wonder what would have happened? There still might have been an earthquake, but we might have been up 2-0.


He could've prevented that earthquake if he played for the Giants.
   11. Cris E Posted: June 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM (#3230669)
But he understands the game: if they were losing before the fifth he'd have let the earthquake go and started the game over fresh. It's the little things...
   12. YR Denies Jesus Montero Posted: June 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM (#3230673)
If I had to put together an all time lineup card in a game of Humans v Martians for Earth's survival, Rickey is batting leadoff.


I'll put those Martians in place with my team of mutant atomic supermen. Rickey can still lead off.
   13. MajorTom Posted: June 24, 2009 at 01:11 PM (#3230708)
The only guy I can think of that reminds me of Rickey at all playing right now is Carl Crawford. And that's a stretch.
   14. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: June 24, 2009 at 01:23 PM (#3230717)
The only guy I can think of that reminds me of Rickey at all playing right now is Carl Crawford. And that's a stretch.

Even taking it back a hundred years, you'd have to combine at least two players in order to come up with Rickey. I'd have to put together the batting eye of Eddie Yost, the baserunning dazzle and power skills of Jackie Robinson, and the personality of Dizzy Dean, whose most memorable quote was pure Rickey: "It ain't braggin' if you can back it up."
   15. PepTech Posted: June 24, 2009 at 04:44 PM (#3231086)
Posters here regularly crack me up with their riffs on Rickey... then the real thing comes along and reminds us that none of us come close. I don't think Mars is quite far enough - maybe Betelgeuse.
   16. tfbg9 Posted: June 24, 2009 at 04:51 PM (#3231096)
What do I want to be and achieve?’ Not, ‘What did I get?'


But oddly, Rickey was considered a bit of a malingerer type at times when he was active, especially when he had
signed a long-term, secure deal, and noticed in the midle years of it that he was no longer one of the top salaried guys.
   17. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: June 24, 2009 at 05:01 PM (#3231119)
I'd have to put together the batting eye of Eddie Yost


Was it so much his batting eye? I thought that a lot of it was his crouch that gave him a strike zone the size of a postage stamp.
   18. winnipegwhip Posted: June 24, 2009 at 06:36 PM (#3231284)
If I had to put together an all time lineup card in a game of Humans v Martians for Earth's survival, Rickey is batting leadoff.


The Martians can have Rickey, as long as The Fonz is with the Earth squad. Remember he saved the Earth from Mork on Happy Days. (Post Jumping the Shark episode without a doubt.)
   19. Backlasher Posted: June 24, 2009 at 07:43 PM (#3231396)
Was it so much his batting eye? I thought that a lot of it was his crouch that gave him a strike zone the size of a postage stamp.


I was set to respond to this with:

I thought that after 1969, the strike zone was fixed on the batters stance at the time they swing at the ball (as opposed to when they first step in the box).

Then I did some research. It appears the interpretation of the post 1969 strike zone provisions has been controversial, especially with the Rickey.

Here is a Chass article that discusses that controversy, along with Frank Tanana saying he wishes Rickey would try to hit HRs.
   20. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: June 24, 2009 at 08:05 PM (#3231428)
It appears the interpretation of the post 1969 strike zone provisions has been controversial, especially with the Rickey.


Might this explain the widely-used-but-foolish notion that each player has the same strike zone? Or this that merely an artifact of the PitchZone virus?
   21. Backlasher Posted: June 24, 2009 at 08:25 PM (#3231455)
Might this explain the widely-used-but-foolish notion that each player has the same strike zone? Or this that merely an artifact of the PitchZone virus?

That is another curiosity of mine. I cannot see a discernable difference in any type of electronic strike zone representation from batter to batter. I presumed this was just because of my limits in perception (e.g. I might not be able to identify a type of wine by its taste, but I could differentiate two wines if I drank them side-by-side). Are these K-zone things really giving everyone the same strike zone?

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