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Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Internet Baseball Awards results

Bobby Valentine defeats John Farrell! 

AL MVP: Mike Trout
AL Cy: Justin Verlander
AL ROY: Mike Trout
AL Manager: Buck Showalter

NL results:

NL MVP: Buster Posey
NL Cy: R.A. Dickey
NL ROY: Bryce Harper
NL Manager: Davey Johnson

The District Attorney Posted: November 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: awards, baseball prospectus, internet baseball awards, sabermetrics

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   1. DL from MN Posted: November 14, 2012 at 02:32 PM (#4302612)
If you're interested in awards voting the 2012 MMP voting will start shortly and is open to anyone.
   2. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 14, 2012 at 02:46 PM (#4302638)
Interesting that the IBA voters also ignored the fact that Cano had a better year than Cabrera.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 14, 2012 at 02:53 PM (#4302656)
Apparently Bruce Chen's mom learned how to vote for this.
   4. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: November 14, 2012 at 03:00 PM (#4302667)
Interesting that the IBA voters also ignored the fact that Cano had a better year than Cabrera.

This assumes a degree of certainty that doesn't exist.
   5. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 14, 2012 at 03:12 PM (#4302689)
This assumes a degree of certainty that doesn't exist.

Not really. Cano has a .7 win lead in fWAR, and 1.3 in BBrefWAR. There is some certainty in gaps that large.

If you want to just eyeball it, Cano's offense is clearly close enough to where the value of being a good fielding secondbaseman will allow him to overcome below average (or poor if we are ignoring the numbers) fielding thirdbaseman.

There's plenty of difference in the numbers to create certainty, or the numbers are useless (which they are if ~1 win in value is uncertain) and you can figure it out with a logic. Either way, if you aren't factoring in the unique value of the Triple Crown (which I assume the IBA's are not intending to do, I'm fine with the BBWAA doing it), it looks like a pretty clear win for Cano.

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