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Is Scott Boras Working on Another End-Around? | FanGraphs Baseball

The greater question might be: how long is this a viable tactic for an agent?

At some point, I suspect, front-office executives will advise their bosses (club owners) — or already have — about this page from the agent playbook and note how it worked out with Fielder, Pujols, and Wieters. But the play might still be working for now, and agents certainly would have a motivation to employ it with so many players still looking for work with less than a month before camps open.

With logic and reason winning out thus far this offseason, it might be time to appeal to emotion and the owner’s suite.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 22, 2018 at 01:47 PM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: free agency, padres, scott boras

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   1. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: January 22, 2018 at 05:40 PM (#5611291)
Do people normally say "end-run around" or "end-around"? I'm used to the former.
   2. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: January 23, 2018 at 10:35 AM (#5611612)
It's usually either "end around" or just "end run". I've never seen "end run around" used seriously before that I can remember.

Also I find it highly amusing how "logic and reason" is used as a euphemism for collusion.
   3. Nasty Nate Posted: January 23, 2018 at 10:37 AM (#5611616)
Do people normally say "end-run around" or "end-around"? I'm used to the former.
If you're announcing an NFL game, you sometimes exclaim "Double-Reverse!"
   4. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 23, 2018 at 10:58 AM (#5611640)
Do people normally say "end-run around" or "end-around"? I'm used to the former.

I would just say "end run". "Doing an end run", already implies going around.
   5. Jose is an Absurd Kahuna Posted: January 23, 2018 at 11:13 AM (#5611652)
I've never heard "end run around"
   6. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: January 23, 2018 at 11:45 AM (#5611691)
Google comes up with 484K hits for "end run" and 312K hits for "end run around". So ~65% of "end run" hits are "end run around" hits. The latter tend to be in sentences like, "So the workers are doing an end run around both Alaska and the port, taking their grievances directly to the people of SeaTac." So "around" is a preposition linking the end run with whatever it is that is being bypassed or circumvented.

Do people normally say "end-run around" or "end-around"? I'm used to the former.
An end run is a wide run outside of the tackles by a running back, while an end around is a direct handoff to a wide receiver coming across the backfield. An end around is bordering on trick play territory, while the end run is just an attempt to go to the outside. I think a clever writer would be sensitive to the difference and would use "end run" as a metaphor for a straightforward attempt to bypass something, while an end around would be reserved for something a little sneakier. There is a sense of deviousness in Boras' approach as described in the article, so maybe the author was thinking that way.
   7. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: January 23, 2018 at 12:39 PM (#5611731)
Ah. I didn't realize that an end run and end around were different plays. Thanks for the explanation.
   8. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: January 23, 2018 at 05:31 PM (#5612070)
If you're announcing an NFL game, you sometimes exclaim "Double-Reverse!"

Football broadcasters consistently get this wrong.

Wide receiver runs behind the line and takes the ball from the quarterback: that's an end around, but broadcasters usually call it a reverse.

A reverse is the running back (or the QB acting like a running back) running right and then handing the ball to the wide receiver who then runs left. Broadcasters usually call this a double reverse.

A double reverse is the above but then the receiver hands it to the other receiver (or possibly, at the college level, the quarterback; this play is all but unheard of in the NFL) who then goes right with it. By the time this happens the broadcasters are usually too excited to pronounce any coherent words at all.
   9. Nasty Nate Posted: January 23, 2018 at 05:35 PM (#5612071)
Football broadcasters consistently get this wrong.
Yup. Although they have gotten better at it as the end around (in various forms) has become a standard part of playbooks.

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