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Monday, May 01, 2017

Is the Save’s Stranglehold on MLB Bullpens Finally Slipping?

Kill the Save!

Jim Furtado Posted: May 01, 2017 at 02:19 PM | 4 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: bullpen, closers, sabermetrics, save

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   1. Walt Davis Posted: May 01, 2017 at 09:21 PM (#5446271)
Maybe! As the article makes reasonably clear near the end, what we're seeing so far might better be classified as "when the closer gets hurt or stinks, are teams now more willing to try to fill in by committee?" ... with the possibility that maybe we've just seen more early season upheaval in closers than we usually see.

Note the article looks at other stuff too and there is no evidence yet of an Andrew Miller revolution. With the exception of Chris Devenski who, so far, is having a bit of a classic Gossage season (I kid you not).
   2. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 01, 2017 at 09:27 PM (#5446278)
there is no evidence yet of an Andrew Miller revolution.


I'm still surprised that anyone, including Lindbergh here, thought there would be.
   3. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: May 01, 2017 at 09:28 PM (#5446280)
I think that you really need to do this sort of analysis separately for pre-FA guys and post-FA guys. Because part of why the Mariners are willing to use Edwin Diaz as a non-traditional closer is because that keeps his saves down, which keeps his future costs down.
   4. Greg Pope Posted: May 02, 2017 at 07:48 AM (#5446442)
I don't know. Look at the Astros use of Giles the last couple of days.

5 run lead, bring on generic guy. Guy gets 2 outs but then lets 2 on. Giles comes in.

4 run lead, bring on generic guy. Guy gets one out but let's one on. Giles comes in.

Usage completely driven by the save stat.

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