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Tuesday, August 07, 2018

It’ll take more than blind optimism for Aaron Boone to resurrect Yankees

The whole Chicken Little baseball coverage irks me. The Yankees have injuries. Some of their better healthy players aren’t playing at their peaks. It happens. It’s a long season, though. The Yankees can pull things together in September, win the Wild Card game, and crush everyone in the playoffs. If it happens, their current stretch won’t matter. A Red Sox historic season would be tarnished. And all that is assume the Red Sox don’t get crushed by injuries and the Yankees don’t quickly rebound, which is also possible.

If baseball seasons were perfectly predicable there would be no reason for the games.

Jim Furtado Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:09 AM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. rconn23 Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:06 PM (#5722348)
If only there were some prior reference of the Yankees playing an extended stretch of mediocre baseball and then finishing on a hot streak. Oh yeah, it was last year. That seemed to work out OK, and this team is better than that team.

The division race is over. The only things that matter are getting Judge and Sanchez back and healthy and Severino back to form. The latter is the most important. The A's are surging, but probably playing over their heads right now. I'm not worried about the Mariners.
   2. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:13 PM (#5722351)
I'm not worried about the Mariners


If this were an old-timey baseball novel, somebody would forward this comment to Scott Servais, and he would hold a team meeting tonight where he repeated it over and over till the Seattle club rose as one man and went on a tear to win the World Series.
   3. JJ1986 Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:15 PM (#5722354)
The A's just added Mike Fiers, but looking ahead to a potential WC game, they don't have a good right-handed starter. Trevor Cahill is having the best season and they also have Edwin Jackson.
   4. bunyon Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:26 PM (#5722363)
The division race is over. The only things that matter are getting Judge and Sanchez back and healthy and Severino back to form. The latter is the most important. The A's are surging, but probably playing over their heads right now. I'm not worried about the Mariners.

In a single game playoff, there is no team that shouldn't worry you.

Even the Rays. Even the Orioles.
   5. PreservedFish Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:27 PM (#5722364)
The A's just added Mike Fiers, but looking ahead to a potential WC game, they don't have a good right-handed starter.

Bullpen game!
   6. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:30 PM (#5722365)
The only things that matter are getting Judge and Sanchez back and healthy and Severino back to form.

To that I'd add Sabathia's endurance, plus Lynn's and Happ's ability to match their sub-3.00 career ERAs against the Red Sox in games going forward. They're going to need a lot more innings from their starters than they've had in recent weeks, because no bullpen can stand up to being called up for 3 or 4 innings nearly every single game.
   7. rconn23 Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:35 PM (#5722368)
"In a single game playoff, there is no team that shouldn't worry you.

Even the Rays. Even the Orioles."

I understand that. I'm talking about getting and keeping a wild card spot. It's one game, but I'd rather have home field and my best pitcher healthy and ready to go.
   8. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: August 07, 2018 at 01:20 PM (#5722399)
The division isn't over yet either. After the games of April 20th this year the Sox had a 7.5 game lead on the Yankees, on May 10th the Yankees had a 1 game lead. In a 17 game span the Yanks made up 8.5 games and that's with the Sox going 8-8. Baseball seasons are long, 51 (NY) and 49 (BOS) games left including 9 head to head is an eternity. Are the Sox fairly solid favorites right now because of the 9 game lead? Sure and I expect the Sox to win the division. But nothing is over yet.
   9. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 07, 2018 at 01:30 PM (#5722407)
If Severino regains his form and Tanaka continues to pitch as he has lately, the Yankees would be a formidable playoff foe, assuming they end the season healthy. Getting some value out of the 3rd & 4th starters may be the key to deploying the bullpen optimally. Let's see how they finish before jumping to any conclusions.
   10. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 07, 2018 at 01:37 PM (#5722416)
The division isn't over yet either. After the games of April 20th this year the Sox had a 7.5 game lead on the Yankees, on May 10th the Yankees had a 1 game lead. In a 17 game span the Yanks made up 8.5 games and that's with the Sox going 8-8. Baseball seasons are long, 51 (NY) and 49 (BOS) games left including 9 head to head is an eternity. Are the Sox fairly solid favorites right now because of the 9 game lead? Sure and I expect the Sox to win the division. But nothing is over yet.

I agree, but realistically about the only way the Sox could blow their current lead would be if Ray showed up and said "It's over. It's always been over."
   11. karlmagnus Posted: August 07, 2018 at 01:47 PM (#5722426)
How big was the Sox lead on September 1, 2011? That was later in the season. This looks a better team, but there was talk of that one as the GOAT, as well.
   12. SoSH U at work Posted: August 07, 2018 at 02:45 PM (#5722479)
How big was the Sox lead on September 1, 2011?


Going into the games that day, they led the Yanks by 1.5 and the Rays by 9. They were playing .615 ball compared with .699 now.

   13. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 07, 2018 at 03:05 PM (#5722493)
Well, this is certainly a surprise - Jacoby Ellsbury Has Season-Ending Surgery. Supposedly there was a medical reason - a torn left hip labrum. Only two years left on his contract.
   14. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: August 07, 2018 at 03:21 PM (#5722513)
That's too bad about Ellsbury. I never particularly warmed to him even as good as he was and while I didn't want him to succeed with the Yankees you never want to see a guy get hurt. Man this has been predictable though. Even in his younger days durability was a problem (largely because he played the game like one of those video game cars that drives full speed until hits a wall then turns) so seeing him struggle to stay healthy in his 30s was fairly predictable.
   15. Swoboda is freedom Posted: August 07, 2018 at 03:49 PM (#5722537)
"In a single game playoff, there is no team that shouldn't worry you.

Even the Rays. Even the Orioles."


Don't count out the Orioles yet. With the win yesterday, they are only 44 1/2 games out.
   16. Lassus Posted: August 07, 2018 at 03:54 PM (#5722544)
In a single game playoff, there is no team that shouldn't worry you.
Even the Rays. Even the Orioles.


Ahem.
   17. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: August 07, 2018 at 03:59 PM (#5722547)
The A's just added Mike Fiers, but looking ahead to a potential WC game, they don't have a good right-handed starter. Trevor Cahill is having the best season and they also have Edwin Jackson.


Fiers, Cahill and Edwin Jackson? Is this 2008?
   18. bunyon Posted: August 07, 2018 at 04:00 PM (#5722550)
Lassus, I'd say the Mets should worry the Red Sox in a one-game playoff but they're not in the same league.

Plus, they're terrible.
   19. Lassus Posted: August 07, 2018 at 04:04 PM (#5722558)
I may not have been crystal clear. I was disputing your assertion. ;-)
   20. bunyon Posted: August 07, 2018 at 04:10 PM (#5722568)
Ah. Condolences on the downturn this year. It looked good there for awhile.


   21. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 07, 2018 at 04:12 PM (#5722572)
Lassus, I'd say the Mets should worry the Red Sox in a one-game playoff but they're not in the same league.

In a one game playoff, I'd never bet much money against de Grom, no matter what his W-L record may be. He's just in the wrong borough.
   22. bunyon Posted: August 07, 2018 at 04:28 PM (#5722591)
de Grom has been great this year. He's a clear ace.

The Mets have lost, what?, 2/3 of his starts?


My only point above was, phrases like, "the division is over but I'm not worried about X" are off-base. I get the sentiment and completely agree, you'd rather be the home team and you'd rather have all your guys healthy for the one-game playoff. But it's still a one-game playoff. I know that isn't lost on anyone here and I was being overly pedantic.
   23. SoSH U at work Posted: August 07, 2018 at 04:43 PM (#5722607)
"the division is over but I'm not worried about X" are off-base.


I think he was expressing confidence that the Yankees wouldn't be overtaken by both Seattle and Oakland to miss the wild card game entirely, not that he would think neither team would pose a threat in a one-game playoff.
   24. Astroenteritis Posted: August 07, 2018 at 05:55 PM (#5722664)
Enough already. A team has to be dead to qualify for resurrection, right? The Yankees are very much alive, as best I can tell.
The Orioles, maybe, need resurrection.
   25. Walt Davis Posted: August 07, 2018 at 06:42 PM (#5722692)
magic number to eliminate O's from division: 6
magic number to eliminate O's from WC: 18 (there's hope!)
   26. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2018 at 06:51 PM (#5722697)
Enough already. A team has to be dead to qualify for resurrection, right? The Yankees are very much alive, as best I can tell.
"Well, it just so happens that your team here is only *mostly* dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and *all* dead. ... Mostly dead is slightly alive. All dead...well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do."

"What's that?"

"Go through their uniforms and look for loose millions."
   27. SandyRiver Posted: August 08, 2018 at 01:05 PM (#5723193)
Baseball seasons are long, 51 (NY) and 49 (BOS) games left including 9 head to head is an eternity.

Nine? they've played 13 already, so I think they have 6, with 3 at each venue. Agree with the rest of the post.
   28. Hysterical & Useless Posted: August 08, 2018 at 01:11 PM (#5723199)
getting Judge and Sanchez back and healthy


Before the 28th, I have tickets for that game.
   29. bunyon Posted: August 08, 2018 at 01:22 PM (#5723214)

I think he was expressing confidence that the Yankees wouldn't be overtaken by both Seattle and Oakland to miss the wild card game entirely, not that he would think neither team would pose a threat in a one-game playoff.


So, I was pedantic and wrong. Not a good look.
   30. TomH Posted: August 08, 2018 at 01:23 PM (#5723217)
I vote for YES that blind optimism will be enough. Chuck Tanner!
   31. Swoboda is freedom Posted: August 08, 2018 at 02:10 PM (#5723270)
So, I was pedantic and wrong. Not a good look.

I think that is the BBTF motto.

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