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Sunday, April 20, 2014

Ivan Nova’s season in jeopardy after tearing elbow ligament

Yankees right-hander Ivan Nova has been diagnosed with a serious elbow injury, the Yankees announced Sunday morning, putting him in jeopardy of requiring season-ending surgery.

bayside627 Posted: April 20, 2014 at 12:52 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Publius Publicola Posted: April 20, 2014 at 03:27 PM (#4689719)
Fear and pain. It's a tough combination.
   2. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: April 20, 2014 at 05:45 PM (#4689803)
Well, at least we can't blame this on his U14 AAU coach.
   3. shoewizard Posted: April 21, 2014 at 12:58 AM (#4690026)
Something is very wrong in baseball.
   4. LionoftheSenate (Brewers v A's World Series) Posted: April 21, 2014 at 01:25 AM (#4690038)
PEDs, or lack of, are the new "climate change".
   5. Dr. Vaux Posted: April 21, 2014 at 01:33 AM (#4690039)
It's certainly an explanation that would make sense. Injuries seem to have increased since the PED crackdown.

I guess maybe we should be celebrating every DL trip.
   6. Chip Posted: April 21, 2014 at 07:48 AM (#4690056)
Nah, instead we'll be getting columns telling us that the injury increase shows PED use is still rampant - remember all those anecdotal analyses during the scaremongering phase prior to testing, about how PEDs and the resultant Popeye muscles put undue stress on the surrounding connective tissue. All events must only and ever lead to demands for more frequent and more invasive testing and more severe penalties for use.
   7. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: April 21, 2014 at 07:52 AM (#4690057)
I'm yet to see a reason to believe this is anything but an insignificant statistical cluster. Pitchers get Tommy John surgery a lot.
   8. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2014 at 08:53 AM (#4690085)
I think the biggest thing is we are getting better at identifying these injuries. Between improved diagnostic technologies and a culture that is getting better at encouraging players and managers to look into injuries I don't think this is happening more I just think we are finding out about it more.
   9. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:43 AM (#4690121)
And the incremental improvements in the surgical procedure leads to fewer partial tears being rehabbed and more guys going under the knife even if there is no corresponding rise in the number of injuries.
   10. Publius Publicola Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:59 AM (#4690167)
I think pitchers are becoming like thoroughbreds. They're approaching their anatomical limits, and like the ankles of racehorses, their elbows are exploding from torque and stress. It used to be throwing 90 meant you were a stud. 90 nowis an entry-level fastball.
   11. tshipman Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:10 AM (#4690182)
This is not in jeopardy, right? It's just over. You can't pitch with a torn elbow ligament.
   12. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:13 AM (#4690184)
I think pitchers are becoming like thoroughbreds. They're approaching their anatomical limits, and like the ankles of racehorses, their elbows are exploding from torque and stress. It used to be throwing 90 meant you were a stud. 90 nowis an entry-level fastball.

I'd like to hear some doctors weigh in on that interpretation, but intuitively it makes a lot of sense.
   13. bunyon Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM (#4690192)
This is not in jeopardy, right? It's just over. You can't pitch with a torn elbow ligament.

Right. Season is over. Career is in jeopardy (that is, TJ will likely take care of it but it isn't certain).
   14. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:50 AM (#4690223)
I think pitchers are becoming like thoroughbreds. They're approaching their anatomical limits, and like the ankles of racehorses, their elbows are exploding from torque and stress. It used to be throwing 90 meant you were a stud. 90 nowis an entry-level fastball.


Is the injury rate increasing in sprinters as well? Interesting theory.
   15. Willie Mayspedester Posted: April 21, 2014 at 04:39 PM (#4690505)
   16. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: April 21, 2014 at 05:52 PM (#4690568)
This is not in jeopardy, right? It's just over. You can't pitch with a torn elbow ligament.


My understanding is that pitchers pitch with partially torn ligaments all the time; with elbow ligaments it's mostly a question of how long you can tolerate the pain before you have to get it repaired. People sometimes ask "why don't teams just have their pitchers MRI'd routinely once a month, it's not THAT expensive" and the answer, as I understand it, is that nearly all those MRIs would show partial tears. A pitcher goes in for Tommy John when the pain level in his elbow goes from the routine "hurts by the end of an outing, just ice it" to "feels like someone is stabbing me in the elbow with a dull rusty steak knife every time I deliver a pitch".

That Matt Harvey is being encouraged by the team to get his elbow fixed whereas Gary Nolan was told to quit being a ##### and get out there and pitch is the big development of the last few decades, besides Tommy John surgery itself.

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