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Jacob deGrom optimistic contract extension with Mets can be reached before season | Newsday

The Mets’ ace said he remains optimistic that he and the team can work out a long-term deal by the start of the regular season, which is about two weeks away. Instead of getting personally involved in those negotiations, though, deGrom said he has let his agent, Jeff Berry of CAA, “do his thing.”

“I try to eliminate as many things as I can and just focus on getting guys out,” deGrom said Tuesday. “Being a part of the future is definitely something I would like to be. That was a goal of mine. I think we’re hopeful, so we’ll just see what happens.”

Said general manager Brodie Van Wagenen: “I’m not going to put a label on it. [There have been] discussions. There’s been open dialogue, and I think that’s important.”

Jim Furtado Posted: March 13, 2019 at 09:17 AM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Howie Menckel Posted: March 13, 2019 at 10:11 AM (#5822360)
It has been noted that the best pitcher to spend his entire career as a Met may well be.... Bob Apodaca.
   2. SoSH U at work Posted: March 13, 2019 at 12:17 PM (#5822421)

It has been noted that the best pitcher to spend his entire career as a Met may well be.... Bob Apodaca.


Who else could it be?

   3. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 13, 2019 at 12:37 PM (#5822431)
It has been noted that the best pitcher to spend his entire career as a Met may well be.... Bob Apodaca.

DeGrom & Syndergaard are already 1 & 2 in pitching WAR. Craig Swan would be #2 but he pitched 5 innings for the Angels in his final year
   4. JJ1986 Posted: March 13, 2019 at 01:18 PM (#5822447)
Unless I'm missing someone, Zack Wheeler is third and Steven Matz is sixth.
   5. Walt Davis Posted: March 13, 2019 at 10:00 PM (#5822641)
Well, the Cubs have been around a long time and Kyle Hendricks is the leader on the course at 16.8 and the leader in the clubhouse is Mark Prior at 15.8. Pitchers almost always move on at some point. I'd guess a number of team leaders are guys who blew their arms out at 25 or so.

EDIT: Walter Johnson's gonna be tough to beat. Looks like Gibson is #2.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: March 13, 2019 at 10:27 PM (#5822645)
Hubbell (Giants), Faber (White Sox), Palmer (Browns/O's).
Feller (Indians), Drysdale (Dodgers), Rivera (Yanks ... or Ford if you don't like reliever WAR).
Bridges (Tigers), Felix (Ms).

And that's your top 100 pitcher WAR and we're up to just 10 teams. The Yanks do well (add Guidry and Stottlemyre at least). The next post-expansion guy I see who's also a team leader is Brandon Webb at 33 WAR. Higuera at 30 WAR. Looks like Soto for the Reds at 27 WAR, beating out Gary Nolan by 1 WAR. Strasburg for Expos/Nats. Dennis Leonard for the Royals. JR Richard for the Astros. I'm up to 500 at that point.
   7. Sweatpants Posted: March 13, 2019 at 10:46 PM (#5822647)
Strasburg isn't even the WSN/MON leader among right-handed pitchers named Stephen.
   8. SoSH U at work Posted: March 13, 2019 at 11:00 PM (#5822649)
Pitchers almost always move on at some point. I'd guess a number of team leaders are guys who blew their arms out at 25 or so.


You've got some guys whose career were ended by injuries, but not many like Prior at a very young age 25. You do have three early deaths (Charlie Ferguson, Don Wilson, Jose Fernandez).

The rest are either a starter who lasted awhile or somebody who was only good enough to play a very short while (whoever leads the Rockies and Pads). Plus two long-lasting relievers.

JR Richard for the Astros.


Nope, Wilson.

Faber (White Sox),


Lyons.
   9. SoSH U at work Posted: March 13, 2019 at 11:10 PM (#5822650)
I'm up to 500 at that point.


You missed a few.

Rommel (the best, and just about only, guy to spend his entire career with the A's)

Ferguson and Leever (Phils and Pirates, as long as you don't mind 19th century types).

Parnell (Boston)
   10. JJ1986 Posted: March 13, 2019 at 11:37 PM (#5822653)
Does anyone know who the Padre is? I don't think it's anyone in the team's top 50 which goes down to 3.2 WAR. I found Brian Tollberg with 2.2.
   11. SoSH U at work Posted: March 13, 2019 at 11:43 PM (#5822654)
Does anyone know who the Padre is?


I looked last year, and I couldn't figure it out.

   12. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 13, 2019 at 11:47 PM (#5822655)
My first thought was Eric Show, but apparently he was yet another player who randomly finished his career in Oakland. I have no memory of that whatsoever.
   13. Howie Menckel Posted: March 13, 2019 at 11:50 PM (#5822657)
yet another player who randomly finished his career in Oakland.

an Athletics century-old tradition like no other!
   14. bbmck Posted: March 14, 2019 at 12:30 AM (#5822660)
10+ pitching WAR, single franchise and didn't pitch in 2018 is 79 pitchers, 5+ is 152. 1000+ IP, single franchise and didn't pitch in 2018 is 75 pitchers, 500+ is 168. Top 3 or all single franchise 5+ pitching WAR that didn't pitch in 2018:

152.6 - MIN Walter Johnson, Brad Radke 45.7, Jim Shaw 19.4
81.9 - STL Bob Gibson, Al Brazle 21.6, Nat Hudson 6.2
68.7 - SFG Carl Hubbell, Matt Cain 29.3, Hal Schumacher 27.1
68.5 - CHW Red Faber, Ted Lyons 67.6, Jim Scott 28
68.0 - BAL Jim Palmer, Carl Weilman 24.4, Scott McGregor 20.2

65.5 - CLE Bob Feller, Mel Harder 48.7, Addie Joss 46.5
61.4 - LAD Don Drysdale, Sandy Koufax 53.2, Nap Rucker 47.4
56.3 - NYY Mariano Rivera, Whitey Ford 53.5, Ron Guidry 48.2
52.4 - DET Tommy Bridges, Hooks Dauss 36.2, John Hiller 31.2
50.1 - OAK Eddie Rommel, Steve McCatty 9.4, Rollie Naylor 9.4

45.3 - WSN Steve Rogers
41.9 - PIT Sam Leever, Ray Kremer 26.5, Vern Law 26.1
33.0 - ARI Brandon Webb
30.5 - MIL Teddy Higuera, Bill Wegman 17.9
27.6 - HOU Don Wilson, JR Richard 21.6

27.2 - BOS Mel Parnell, Tex Hughson 25.6, Ray Collins 24.3
26.7 - CIN Mario Soto, Harry Gaspar 10.4, Hod Eller 9.3
26.0 - KCR Dennis Leonard, Paul Splittorff 22.7, Steve Busby 16.3
25.6 - PHI Charlie Ferguson, Bob Miller 9.4, Larry Christenson 9.1
17.3 - SEA Hisashi Iwakuma

15.8 - CHC Mark Prior, Carl Lundgren 13.7, Buttons Briggs 7.6
13.4 - ATL Rick Camp, Johnny Cooney 9, Bill James 8.6
12.8 - MIA Jose Fernandez
12.2 - LAA Scot Shields, Fred Newman 5.7
10.7 - TOR Luis Leal, Ricky Romero 10.1, Jerry Garvin 7.2

10.5 - TEX Roger Pavlik, Matt Harrison 9.2, Jeff Zimmerman 7.5
5.7 - NYM Pedro Feliciano, Bob Apodaca 5.5
4.7 - COL Roger Bailey
4.4 - TBR Jeff Niemann
2.2 - SDP Brian Tollberg

21st Mel Stottlemyre 40.8, 22nd Bob Lemon 37.8 and 40th Bob Stanley 23.8 are the Top 3 not to make a Top 3. 140 players with 1+ pitching WAR and single franchise pitched in 2018. 445 only pitched for a single franchise and played in 2018, some of which are multi-franchise position players, franchise leaders who are under contract with the team in 2019 and all 5+ (unsigned):

62.1 - LAD Clayton Kershaw, Kenley Jansen 15.7, Hyun-Jin Ryu 8.6
51.0 - SEA Felix Hernandez
34.3 - STL Adam Wainwright, Carlos Martinez 13.6, Michael Wacha 7.9
33.6 - CLE Corey Kluber, Carlos Carrasco 20.3, Mike Clevinger 8.5
29.9 - SFG Madison Bumgarner

26.3 - WSN Stephen Strasburg
25.7 - NYM Jacob deGrom, Noah Syndergaard 11.9, Zack Wheeler 6.4, Steven Matz 5.1
16.8 - CHC Kyle Hendricks
16.7 - ATL Julio Teheran
16.5 - PHI Aaron Nola, Jerad Eickhoff 6

15.6 - NYY Masahiro Tanaka, Luis Severino 11.8, Dellin Betances 11.6, Chad Green 5.2
14.2 - KCR Danny Duffy
11.7 - COL Kyle Freeland, German Marquez 8.1, Tyler Anderson 7.5, Jon Gray 7
10.6 - TOR Marcus Stroman, Aaron Sanchez 9.3
9.7 - DET Michael Fulmer

9.3 - MIN Kyle Gibson
9.2 - TBR Blake Snell
8.5 - PIT Jameson Taillon, Trevor Williams 5.3
8.0 - CIN Raisel Iglesias
7.8 - BOS Eduardo Rodriguez

7.4 - OAK Sean Manaea
6.5 - CHW Carlos Rodon, Nate Jones 6.2
6.1 - HOU Lance McCullers Jr, (Dallas Keuchel 18.2)
5.8 - BAL Mychal Givens, (Chris Tillman 9.4)
5.5 - MIL Zach Davies

4.8 - ARI Archie Bradley
3.6 - TEX Jose Leclerc
2.6 - LAA Jaime Barria
1.3 - MIA Jose Urena
0.5 - SDP Jose Castillo, Joey Lucchesi and Robert Stock

Dan Altavilla 0.9 is waiting in the wings if Seattle trades Felix. Brian Tollberg probably remains the leader unless he comes out of retirement for any other team at 46.
   15. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: March 14, 2019 at 01:04 AM (#5822662)
NYM Pedro Feliciano

He did sign with the Yankees for 2 or 3 years but didn't pitch for them.
   16. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 14, 2019 at 01:06 AM (#5822663)
13.4 - ATL Rick Camp, Johnny Cooney 9, Bill James 8.6

how much of that came from his homer on July 4, 1985
   17. bbmck Posted: March 14, 2019 at 02:09 AM (#5822665)
10+ pitching WAR, 10+ seasons and single franchise is 47 until opening day when Strasburg, Jansen and Carrasco join the club. 10+ position player WAR, 10+ seasons and single franchise is 116 until opening day when Freddie Freeman joins the club and Michael Brantley exits.

500+ games at that position, 10+ position player WAR and single franchise which lists some players more than once and doesn't list at least Bob Lemon:

P (1): MIN Walter Johnson
C (16): NYY 3, SFG 3, BOS 2, LAD 2, BAL, CHW, CIN, DET, MIN, STL
1B (14 + Freddie Freeman): NYY 3, MIN 2, BOS, CHC, CIN, COL, HOU, PHI, PIT, SFG, STL
DH (3): BOS Jim Rice, KCR George Brett, SEA Edgar Martinez
2B (16): BOS 2, CIN 2, DET 2, LAD 2, BAL, HOU, KCR, MIL, NYY, OAK, PIT, SFG
3B (19): BAL 2, MIN 2, NYY 2, ATL, BOS, CHC, CHW, CLE, KCR, LAD, NYM, PHI, PIT, SEA, SFG, WSN
SS (18): NYY 3, CIN 2, LAD 2, BAL, BOS, CHC, CHW, DET, LAA, MIL, MIN, PIT, SFG, TEX
CF (12): NYY 4, MIN 2, BOS, CHW, CIN, DET, MIL, STL
LF/RF (29): BOS 4, SFG 4, MIN 3, NYY 3, PIT 3, CLE 2, DET 2, LAD 2, STL 2, KCR, LAA, MIL, SDP

By team:

18 - NYY: Joe Collins, Earle Combs, Frankie Crosetti, Bill Dickey, Joe DiMaggio, Brett Gardner, Lou Gehrig, Tommy Henrich, Derek Jeter, Mickey Mantle, Don Mattingly, Gil McDougald, Thurman Munson, Jorge Posada, Phil Rizzuto, Red Rolfe, Roy White, Bernie Williams
11 - SFG: Harry Danning, Jim Davenport, Travis Jackson, Jo-Jo Moore, Mel Ott, Buster Posey, Bill Terry, Robby Thompson, Mike Tiernan, Wes Westrum, Ross Youngs
10 - BOS: Bill Carrigan, Dom DiMaggio, Bobby Doerr, Mike Greenwell, Dustin Pedroia, Rico Petrocelli, Jim Rice, Jason Varitek, Ted Williams, Carl Yastrzemski
10 - MIN: Bob Allison, Ossie Bluege, Kent Hrbek, Walter Johnson, Buddy Lewis, Joe Mauer, Clyde Milan, Tony Oliva, Kirby Puckett, Cecil Travis
8 - LAD: Roy Campanella, Andre Ethier, Carl Furillo, Jim Gilliam, Pee Wee Reese, Jackie Robinson, Bill Russell, Mike Scioscia

7 - CIN: Johnny Bench, Dave Concepcion, Bug Holliday, Barry Larkin, Bid McPhee, Ron Oester, Joey Votto
7 - DET: Bill Freehan, Charlie Gehringer, Bobby Higginson, Al Kaline, Mickey Stanley, Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker
6 - PIT: Gene Alley, Carson Bigbee, Roberto Clemente, Bill Mazeroski, Willie Stargell, Pie Traynor
5 - STL: Ray Blades, Pepper Martin, Yadier Molina, Terry Moore, Stan Musial

4 - BAL: Rich Dauer, Chris Hoiles, Cal Ripken Jr, Brooks Robinson
4 - CHW: Luke Appling, Ron Karkovice, Johnny Mostil, Lee Tannehill
3 - CLE: Jack Graney, Bob Lemon, Al Rosen, (Michael Brantley)
3 - KCR: George Brett, Alex Gordon, Frank White
3 - MIL: Ryan Braun, Jim Gantner, Robin Yount

2 - ATL: Chipper Jones, (Freddie Freeman)
2 - CHC: Ernie Banks, Stan Hack
2 - HOU: Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio
2 - LAA: Gary Disarcina, Tim Salmon
2 - PHI: Ryan Howard, Mike Schmidt

1 - COL: Todd Helton
1 - NYM: David Wright
1 - OAK: Dick Green
1 - SDP: Tony Gwynn

1 - SEA: Edgar Martinez
1 - TEX: Elvis Andrus
1 - WSN: Ryan Zimmerman
0 - ARI, MIA, TBR, TOR

23 of the 117 players are active in 1989, 22 in 1992 and 1988. The most recent season 20+ players were active was 2011 and then Varitek and Posada retire. 12 of the 117 players played their 10th or later season in 2018 in part because they haven't finished their career playing for the Athletics yet. 10 in 1972-74, 1986-92, 1995, 2004 and 2016.
   18. Sweatpants Posted: March 14, 2019 at 02:54 AM (#5822668)
13.4 - ATL Rick Camp, Johnny Cooney 9, Bill James 8.6
Cooney is an odd one. He wasn't a one-team player, but he still sort of counts.

For the first ten seasons of his career, all with the Braves, he was a pitcher who got occasional playing time at other positions. Then he was out of the majors for a few years, before resurfacing with the Dodgers as a singles-hitting outfielder, the role he played for the last ten seasons of his career. He never pitched after his return, meaning that he could qualify as a one-team pitcher. For all I know he's the most recent player with both a top-ten ERA finish and a top-ten BA finish.

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