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Sunday, October 21, 2012

Japanese high school pitcher Otani opts for MLB

Exactly what it says in the title.

Gamingboy Posted: October 21, 2012 at 01:21 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: japan, prospects

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   1. Tripon Posted: October 21, 2012 at 01:40 PM (#4278036)
Heard the Dodgers are the favs.
   2. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 21, 2012 at 02:25 PM (#4278061)
I was under the impression that MLB and NPB had a sort of gentleman's agreement that the majors wouldn't poach Japanese amateurs until after the NPB clubs had a chance to draft or sign them. Was I wrong?
   3. Tripon Posted: October 21, 2012 at 02:37 PM (#4278068)
That agreement doesn't apply to the players themselves. For instance, if an American player wanted to play in Japan, MLB couldn't stop them.

Edit: If Japan wants this to stop happening, they need to do the one thing that will likely staunch it. Offer more money to their draftees.
   4. Tim D Posted: October 21, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4278088)
He throws 110 mph, has a wipeout slider, a splitter, a 12-6 hammer curve and is working on a knuckleball. And poise. He will easily be worth $250 million. Compare him conservatively to Walter Johnson. Just so I beat Scott Boras to it.
   5. Gamingboy Posted: October 21, 2012 at 03:16 PM (#4278093)
@2:

Yeah, they do, but as Tripon said, that doesn't apply to the players themselves. However, NPB does have a rule where if a player decides to skip the draft and go straight to America they aren't allowed to come back for a certain amount of time. So if Otani were to sign with, say, the Dodgers, and then quickly flame out for one reason or another, he'd basically be screwed, as no NPB team would be signing him for a few years.
   6. Zach Posted: October 21, 2012 at 03:34 PM (#4278111)
#4 -- All of that still doesn't add up to the simple genius of Matsuzaka and the gyroball. Diasuke was going to own the world due to his mastery of a pitch he didn't throw and which may or may not exist.

The greatest trick the demon mystery pitch ever played was convincing the world it didn't exist...
   7. Zach Posted: October 21, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4278116)
Double post.
   8. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: October 21, 2012 at 04:13 PM (#4278143)
Too bad for Otani that he falls under the new int'l spending caps
   9. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 21, 2012 at 04:25 PM (#4278149)
If you run "Shohei Otani" through Google Translate, you get "Sidd Finch."
   10. depletion Posted: October 21, 2012 at 06:17 PM (#4278203)
The article doesn't say exactly how he accomplishes this. Does he apply for free agency like the Dominican players do? Can anyone apply for free agency in MLB? How does one do this? I couldn't find a form to download on mlb.com. They do have the locations and dates of tryout camps, however.
   11. Darren Posted: October 21, 2012 at 08:06 PM (#4278329)
The only recent somewhat comparable situation was Tazawa, who asked that NPB teams not draft him, then spent a couple of years in industrial leagues. I don't understand why NPB teams would be willing to simply skip on a player who's good enough for MLB to draft. Isn't the whole point of a draft to make the players go where you want them to?
   12. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 21, 2012 at 09:41 PM (#4278512)
...Tazawa, who asked that NPB teams not draft him, then spent a couple of years in industrial leagues. I don't understand why NPB teams would be willing to simply skip on a player...


High school and college players are not eligible unless submit letters of intent to their respective governing organizations. Players who go to the industrial leagues out of high school aren't eligible for the draft until they've played three years. I guess there's nothing that stops a player from leaving the industrial leagues for MLB.

Many other aspects of the NPB draft system seem downright bizarre to me. It's nothing at all like the drafts that we're familiar with for major North American sports.
   13. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 21, 2012 at 11:13 PM (#4278653)
However, NPB does have a rule where if a player decides to skip the draft and go straight to America they aren't allowed to come back for a certain amount of time. So if Otani were to sign with, say, the Dodgers, and then quickly flame out for one reason or another, he'd basically be screwed, as no NPB team would be signing him for a few years.

Therefore, Ichiro should not be in the Hall of Fame.
   14. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: October 22, 2012 at 01:44 AM (#4278700)
Too bad for Otani that he falls under the new int'l spending caps

The Mariners have somehow had a separate line item for signing foreign players - The Ichiro Fund, I think they call it. Now that its namesake is gone, maybe they'll want to spend some big money on another Japanese player.
   15. Boxkutter Posted: October 22, 2012 at 02:55 AM (#4278705)
MLB really needs to get these kinds of international free agents into the draft pool. Some of them could probably get more of a signing bonus now since the IFA rules have changed. Teams now get up to like $3.2MM to spend total on IFAs, but the top seven picks in the last MLB Draft all signed for $3MM or more (with Giolito who slipped to #16 due to an injury getting just shy of that).
   16. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 22, 2012 at 06:40 AM (#4278718)
I hear he's got a hell of a bridging dragon suplex!

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