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Friday, February 16, 2018

Jason Vargas, Mets agree to two-year deal

The New York Mets and starting pitcher Jason Vargas have reached agreement on a two-year, $16 million deal, a source confirmed to ESPN on Friday.

The deal, which is pending a physical, includes a club option for 2020, an MLB source told ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick.

Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: February 16, 2018 at 04:32 PM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. PreservedFish Posted: February 16, 2018 at 05:22 PM (#5626247)
I have always been suspicious of Vargas's success ... he basically throws a mix of batting practice fastballs and batting practice changeups. But somehow that gets enough hitters out for him to hang around a 100 ERA+ most of the time. Seems like a solid collusiony deal here for the Mets.
   2. weiss-man Posted: February 16, 2018 at 05:53 PM (#5626263)
Amazingly led the AL in wins last year.
   3. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 16, 2018 at 05:59 PM (#5626265)
I never would have guessed that. I also never would have guessed that this is his second tour of duty with the Mets.
   4. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: February 16, 2018 at 06:13 PM (#5626269)
deGrom, Thor, and Vargas will be in the rotation to start the year barring injury.

That leaves the Mets with Matz and Harvey for the other two spots in the rotation, right? With Wheeler, Lugo, and Gsellman next up if/when someone falters/gets hurt?

It's crazy to think its been 11 years since Vargas was with the Mets last. I thought highly of him when he was younger and have rooted for him.
   5. Walt Davis Posted: February 16, 2018 at 06:42 PM (#5626279)
So since this is the Mets, I assume that means that only 1 of the 3 will be in the rotation to start the year. :-)
   6. Adam Starblind Posted: February 16, 2018 at 06:49 PM (#5626281)
[5] That's the thing. Wheeler needn't concern himself. There's no way all six start the season off the DL.
   7. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: February 16, 2018 at 08:01 PM (#5626291)
I appreciate that Wheeler is mad and it is probably a good thing that he is from a competitive spirit perspective. That said, he hasn't had a good year since 2014. He has not proven he can be relied on.
   8. PreservedFish Posted: February 16, 2018 at 08:30 PM (#5626298)
I watched one of Vargas' starts in his original spin with the Mets. He got rocked and I couldn't have been more dismissive about his potential.
   9. Cowboy Popup Posted: February 16, 2018 at 08:52 PM (#5626301)
he basically throws a mix of batting practice fastballs and batting practice changeups.

I watched a couple of his starts early in the year before he cooled off. His change is the only reason he survives. It was a good, swing-and-miss caliber pitch before the league adjusted.

I think there was a Fangraphs article on how he had changed his approach around May of last year but I forget what it discussed/concluded.
   10. JAHV Posted: February 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM (#5626326)
See? No collusion!
   11. Stormy JE Posted: February 17, 2018 at 04:15 AM (#5626345)
The New York Mets and starting pitcher Jason Vargas have reached agreement on a two-year, $16 million deal, a source confirmed to ESPN on Friday.
In contrast, Braves pried Bartolo away from the Mets last offseason for one year at $12.5 million.
   12. Stormy JE Posted: February 17, 2018 at 04:32 AM (#5626346)
Interestingly, Anthony DiComo says that the Opening Day payroll will now surpass $150 million, which makes it, at most, only a few million less than last year's $155M. Weren't we bracing ourselves for a bigger hit?
   13. OCF Posted: February 17, 2018 at 02:08 PM (#5626420)
I watched one of Vargas' starts in his original spin with the Mets. He got rocked and I couldn't have been more dismissive about his potential.

The Vargas start that I watched was in 2004 - which is to say, it was a Long Beach State game. I watched several games that year, mostly to see Jered Weaver. Weaver was the #1 pitcher on that team, the Friday pitcher. Vargas was the #3 pitcher. (The #2 pitcher was Cesar Ramos.) Vargas was also the regular DH. NCAA rules make it easier to be a pitcher/DH. In the game I attended where he was the starter, he got relieved as a pitcher but stayed in the game as DH, which was allowed.

Here is a link to the stats from that team. As you can see, Vargas had an OPS 100 points higher than Troy Tulowitzki. What did I think at the time? I thought then that if Vargas were ever to have a major league career, it would be as a RF or 1B, not as a P. Could it be that Vargas might outlast both Weaver and Tulowitzki?
   14. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: February 17, 2018 at 02:14 PM (#5626422)
I feel old thinking about Vargas like this but I do remember when he came up with the Marlins, Vargas could rake for a pitcher. He hit .310/.341/.381 in his first two years but has rarely hit since then. Obviously, not a lot of plate appearances but he looked like he knew what he was doing up there.

   15. puck Posted: February 17, 2018 at 02:45 PM (#5626443)
Amazingly led the AL in wins last year.


Wow, yes, 18. I suppose that says something that a pitcher who led the league in wins only received a 2 yr/$16 million deal. I assume 20 years ago he would have received more (relative to the average salaries of the day). Though he is 35.

When he signed the 4 yr deal I think a lot of people thought the 4th year was too much. Yearly WAR totals of 2.4, 0.3, 0.5, and 3.8 are probably similar to what was expected, but in the wrong order.

   16. PreservedFish Posted: February 17, 2018 at 09:39 PM (#5626512)
I feel old thinking about Vargas like this but I do remember when he came up with the Marlins, Vargas could rake for a pitcher. He hit .310/.341/.381 in his first two years but has rarely hit since then. Obviously, not a lot of plate appearances but he looked like he knew what he was doing up there.


I believe he outhit his teammate Troy Tulowitzki in college.
   17. DaVoice of DaPeople Posted: February 17, 2018 at 10:47 PM (#5626518)
Jason Vargas had a pretty funny plate appearance in the 2014 World Series. It was early in the game of course, but still a very high leverage spot—maybe bases loaded and 2 outs? Anyway, he did in fact look like he knew what he was doing, taking a couple close pitches and fouling off the strikes, working the count to 2-2. The next pitch was jusssssat off the plate, the ump called it a ball, and.....Vargas pumped his fist, tossed his bat aside and started jogging to first. He thought it was ball four.

Despite all the tension, players on both sides cracked up over it. He got back in the box and took strike 3 down the middle and the inning was over. It still brings a smile to my face.
   18. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: February 17, 2018 at 10:49 PM (#5626519)
Huh. I could have sworn that one of the things I knew was that Jason Vargas had retired.
   19. OCF Posted: February 17, 2018 at 11:00 PM (#5626520)
I believe he outhit his teammate Troy Tulowitzki in college.

For the 2004 season, certainly so. See the link I posted in #13.
   20. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: February 18, 2018 at 12:16 AM (#5626529)
Where do I post this? The dominoes fall, Hosmer to Padres 8/144, opt out after 5, 20mil per first 5 years.
   21. DaVoice of DaPeople Posted: February 18, 2018 at 08:50 PM (#5626719)

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