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Jerry Green: MLB Sabermetrics geeks quick to make silly grand proclamations

And all hail SABR’s Alex Bensky in the comment’s section!

This was considerably before Bill James learned to count to two. So it was somewhat before the creation of Sabermetrics with its collection of numbers freaks. This is the group of baseball intelligentsia who pay homage to James with the mystical belief that statistics never mattered until such arcane data as WAR and OPS were concocted.

Bradley’s gem also was somewhat before Clayton Kershaw’s recent no-hitter for the Dodgers was classified as the second-best baseball game ever pitched. If not the best. This was proclaimed in the Los Angeles Times, the Washington Post, by a so-called expert on CBS Sports’ website and by a writer with ESPN.

Their claim was based on Game Score, a metric that James conjured up to gauge pitching efficiency. He did it by gathering such facts as strikeouts, walks, hits allowed, outs recorded, etc., and placing them into a blender. It included nothing about quality of opponent.

The result is, according to Game Score, that only Kerry Wood had pitched a better game in the 138-year history of Major League Baseball than Kershaw did June 18, 2014. And Wood actually pitched a one-hitter.

For some peculiar reason that has eluded the Sabermetricians, there has been a glut of no-hitters in recent baseball history. Thirteen of the 285 no-hitters, the list started by George Bradley, have been pitched in the past three seasons. Seven of them in 2012 and three last year.

...Kershaw is not the normal pitcher. All of L.A. thinks he’s the best in baseball, with talent close to Justin Verlander’s. All of L.A. could be right. The Sabermetricians will figure it out.

But whether this no-hitter was the second best game ever pitched. Who knows?

Statistics!

George Bradley posted some. Best game ever? Sure. For awhile. It was the first no-hitter when the National League — and thus MLB — was established in 1876.

That premier season, Bradley won 45 games and lost 19, according to Baseball-Reference.com. He pitched 573 innings. Apparently, managers did not bother with the pitch count back then. Bradley threw 16 shutouts, including the no-hitter against the Dark Blues. He started 64 games and pitched complete games in 63 of them. He had a 1.23 ERA.

Feed all Bradley’s stats into Bill James’s magic metric mixer and what pops out?

Repoz Posted: June 29, 2014 at 07:09 AM | 38 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: June 29, 2014 at 07:58 AM (#4738690)
Game Scores are an extremely useful down and dirty way of getting an approximate feel for the quality of a start, and a great advancement over Quality Starts and other imperfect metrics. But trying to say that Kerry Wood had the "best" game in history is silly, and wildly off the mark even by Game Score's own standard.

"Best" game ever? All hail the mighty Joe Oeschger. With his Game Score of 153, combined with his pitching rival Leon Cadore's 140, those two make Wood's 104 and Kershaw's 102 seem like a cringeworthy duel between Vidal Nuno and Ubaldo Jimenez.

And if the rebuttal is "Well, we're talking about a nine inning game only," then you might as well forget about the whole concept of Game Score, because the number of innings pitched is a key part of that metric. The bottom line is that neither Wood nor Kershaw are anywhere near the top of Game Score's "best" games.
   2. Bunny Vincennes Posted: June 29, 2014 at 08:30 AM (#4738695)
The Kerry Wood game is the greatest I've ever seen vs a very good Houston lineup. But, where does the epic Marichal/Spahn game sit?
   3. Matt Welch Posted: June 29, 2014 at 08:47 AM (#4738697)
I've never cared about Game Scores, but keep barking, Grandpa!
   4. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 29, 2014 at 09:17 AM (#4738704)
I'm sure Jerry Green has never made silly grand proclamations.
   5. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2014 at 09:37 AM (#4738709)
NEERRRRRRRRRRRDS!
   6. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: June 29, 2014 at 09:40 AM (#4738711)
The result is, according to Game Score, that only Kerry Wood had pitched a better game in the 138-year history of Major League Baseball than Kershaw did June 18, 2014. And Wood actually pitched a one-hitter.



The hit of course was a weak dribbler that got past a defensively challenged 3B that could have been justified being called an error, but as they say, they all look like line drives in the box score. As Andy alludes to, best game depends on what you mean by best. But most dominant? It's certainly in the conversation for top 5.
   7. CFiJ Posted: June 29, 2014 at 09:52 AM (#4738714)
Yeah, funny how he forgets to mention that Kerry Wood's one-hitter also included a major league record-tying 20 strikeouts.
   8. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: June 29, 2014 at 09:56 AM (#4738715)
The Kerry Wood game is the greatest I've ever seen vs a very good Houston lineup. But, where does the epic Marichal/Spahn game sit?

Box score for that game. Marichal had a 112 game score, and Spahn had a 97.
   9. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: June 29, 2014 at 09:57 AM (#4738716)
20 strikeouts, one weak hit in one of the friendliest hitting environments ever in a traditionally hitter friendly ballpark against a good lineup.

Intuitively that sounds like a game that would qualify as the best ever without looking at game score. I'm not arguing it is or isn't, there are plenty of competitors (Haddix?) but just that it fits the narrative awfully well.
   10. PreservedFish Posted: June 29, 2014 at 10:02 AM (#4738720)
I would imagine that if you adjusted for park and opponent and era, Kershaw's game might fall out of its top 5 spot.

It's not clear cut how you would do those adjustments, but 30 years ago the league-wide K rate was about 30% lower. So, can you chop those 15 Ks down to 10 or 11 if you're comparing to a game pitched a generation ago? Dodgers Stadium, we all know about. The Rockies are tricky because they lead the league in runs and even in OPS+ but they still have extreme home/road splits - they are 8th in the league in road OPS.

The K adjustment is especially tricky because I have no idea how much of the leaguewide trend towards more strikeouts is due to new hitting styles or environmental changes or such (for which Kershaw deserves no credit) and how much is due to new pitching styles (for which he does).
   11. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: June 29, 2014 at 10:21 AM (#4738722)
20 strikeouts, one weak hit in one of the friendliest hitting environments ever in a traditionally hitter friendly ballpark against a good lineup.

Intuitively that sounds like a game that would qualify as the best ever without looking at game score. I'm not arguing it is or isn't, there are plenty of competitors (Haddix?) but just that it fits the narrative awfully well.


So then how do you account for Oeschger's 153 and Cadore's 140? By the standards that the creators of Game Score chose to establish, their performance towers over Wood and Kershaw and Haddix (who got a 107 for his near-perfect 12.2 inning game). If you want to rank Wood or Haddix at the top (not saying that you would), you'd have to invent some new metric that either minimizes the credit given for extra inning games or eliminates any performances before an arbitrary date in history.

Of course by doing that you'd be simply reaching your conclusion first and then drawing up a metric to ensure that your favored conclusion is ratified. I could probably figure out a way to make Don Larsen or Jack Morris "win" by giving a lot more credit for the importance of the game, if I really cared about some ephemeral quality like "best".
   12. bobm Posted: June 29, 2014 at 10:30 AM (#4738724)
For some peculiar reason that has eluded the Sabermetricians, there has been a glut of no-hitters in recent baseball history. Thirteen of the 285 no-hitters, the list started by George Bradley, have been pitched in the past three seasons. Seven of them in 2012 and three last year. [...]

George Bradley posted some. Best game ever? Sure. For awhile. It was the first no-hitter when the National League — and thus MLB — was established in 1876.


One would think that Jerry Green hadn't noticed the merger with the American League, or expansion in the number of teams, or the reduction in offense since he started watching baseball in 1876.
   13. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: June 29, 2014 at 10:39 AM (#4738726)
11 - I don't. I was trying to take a non-statistical approach to the issue. If you asked me to build the best pitched game ever those are all factors that I would play into it. Obviously extreme extra inning situations would also belong on the list.
   14. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: June 29, 2014 at 10:45 AM (#4738729)
11 - I don't. I was trying to take a non-statistical approach to the issue. If you asked me to build the best pitched game ever those are all factors that I would play into it. Obviously extreme extra inning situations would also belong on the list.

And to me that'd be the most interesting way of going about thinking what we mean by the "best" games. Use the Game Score metric as a starting point and then try to think of other factors that Game Scores might either overemphasize or underemphasize.

For example: Do Game Scores give too much credit for innings, thereby jacking up dead ball era scores? Or does it overemphasize strikeouts, thereby disproportionately boosting the scores of modern day pitchers? And do Game Scores fail to take into account the importance of the game or the offensive strength of the opposing lineup? These are but four obvious ways that Game Scores might be modified, if you wanted to expand the concept.
   15. Obo Posted: June 29, 2014 at 10:46 AM (#4738730)
So many straw men in the article, but I wanted to address the claim that game scores are "a metric that James conjured up to gauge pitching efficiency", which is close to true but also misleading. Game scores were intended to be a quick-and-dirty method of going from "wow that was a heck of a start from Clemens last night" to "how does it compare to that game Mike Scott pitched back in May?" using the minimal information that would have been immediately available a quarter century ago. From page 31 of the 1988 Baseball Abstract, where Bill James introduced the calculation:

This is my annual fun stat, a kind of garbage stat that I present not because it helps us understand anything in particular, but because it is fun to play around with.

There's your "Grand Proclamation" Mr. Green.
   16. jobu Posted: June 29, 2014 at 10:53 AM (#4738734)
Jerry Green is a retired Detroit News sportswriter.


...and should feel free to continue enjoying that retirement.
   17. cmd600 Posted: June 29, 2014 at 01:11 PM (#4738837)
Kershaw is not the normal pitcher. All of L.A. thinks he’s the best in baseball, with talent close to Justin Verlander’s.


Maybe I'm misreading this, but I'd say this is the silly grand proclamation.
   18. Scott Ross Posted: June 29, 2014 at 04:24 PM (#4739055)
Do these guys look for doctors who stopped learning in 1950? Is it leeches for every malady?
   19. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: June 29, 2014 at 04:47 PM (#4739088)
Man, those comments after the article are something to behold. I realize that most of the baseball media I consume is more stats friendly but I guess I didn't realize that some folks still get a rage boner when WAR is mentioned*. I guess I just figured that since more and more 'advanced' stats have crept into the mainstream that it wasn't much of a thing to get angry over anymore.

* I fully realize that with the Cabrera/Trout debate that WAR is a dirty word to many folks in Detroit.
   20. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: June 29, 2014 at 04:56 PM (#4739097)
Man, those comments after the article are something to behold. I realize that most of the baseball media I consume is more stats friendly but I guess I didn't realize that some folks still get a rage boner when WAR is mentioned*. I guess I just figured that since more and more 'advanced' stats have crept into the mainstream that it wasn't much of a thing to get angry over anymore.

Here's the best way to deal with idiotic comments like those: Ignore them.

Of course if Repoz ignored all these idiotic columns and articles, the BTF page hits would fall off a cliff and BTF would go the way of sacrifice bunts with two outs. And we wouldn't want that, would we?
   21. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: June 29, 2014 at 05:33 PM (#4739147)
I generally do ignore that stuff. I only waded into the comments because of the 'All hail Alex Bensky' in the lead in over here.
   22. Walt Davis Posted: June 29, 2014 at 05:35 PM (#4739149)
So then how do you account for Oeschger's 153 and Cadore's 140?

The same way we deal with all deadball and other old pitching stats ... basically by ignoring them. Guys used to pitch 600 innings but we know the game then and the game now have little to do with one another. Guys used to hit 400 all the time, they don't anymore -- but we have enough sense to know that Gwynn (tied for 18th in career BA) was one of the greatest average hitters of all time. And guys use to lead the league with 10 HR.

You could go to the trouble of era-adjusting game scores ... or you could just use some common sense and realize that your point if f'ing moronic. We all know pitching usage has changed in the last 150 years Andy.

Now if you want to bring up Marichal or Seaver or ... then at least you're possibly being sensible. But integration was 70 years ago and expansion more than 50 years ago. Older statistics add absolutely nothing to our understanding of the game.
   23. Walt Davis Posted: June 29, 2014 at 05:46 PM (#4739160)
By the way, it's not correct to refer to Orie as a "defensively-challenged" 3B. His reputation as a prospect was quite good and his ML performance was also quite good although he apparently did have on horrible stretch with Fla.

It was a makeable play but it was a tough one especially with a decent runner in Gutierrez. I've certainly never had a problem with scoring it a hit. Orie probably still has nightmares.
   24. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 29, 2014 at 06:03 PM (#4739202)
Not sure why we care about strikeouts in a ex post analysis of a game. I'd be more inclined to credit the guy who gets the 27 outs with the fewest pitches for being more dominant.

I also think context matters. Post-season games should get a huge leverage factor. I don't think you can compare what Wood did in a random game in May to what guys like Larsen, Koufax, Gibson, etc., did in the WS.
   25. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: June 29, 2014 at 07:07 PM (#4739294)
So then how do you account for Oeschger's 153 and Cadore's 140?

The same way we deal with all deadball and other old pitching stats ... basically by ignoring them. Guys used to pitch 600 innings but we know the game then and the game now have little to do with one another. Guys used to hit 400 all the time, they don't anymore -- but we have enough sense to know that Gwynn (tied for 18th in career BA) was one of the greatest average hitters of all time. And guys use to lead the league with 10 HR.


Right, but we also know that an average player strikes out today at rates that would have led all of baseball in 1920.** But I guess that's inconsequential.

If we put Oeschger and Cadore out here today, obviously they'd never be allowed to go 26 innings each, and if they did, they'd probably run out of baseballs.

But if Wood had been around in 1920, I doubt if he would've struck out 20 batters, either.

You could go to the trouble of era-adjusting game scores ... or you could just use some common sense and realize that your point if f'ing moronic. We all know pitching usage has changed in the last 150 years Andy.

Obviously, but all you're doing here is simply asserting that one type of usage produces more valuable pitchers, while the Game Score metric doesn't seem to agree with that conclusion. Changes in pitching usage might well lead to more efficiency and better role assignments, while at the same time diminishing the value of stamina.

Your point kind of reminds me of Frank Rizzo's "The lie detector lied" response to his failing a lie detector test. If you don't like the fact that Oeschger and Cadore's scores trump Wood's and Kershaw's, perhaps a better response would be to modify the formula rather than just throwing out the results you don't like.

Now if you want to bring up Marichal or Seaver or ... then at least you're possibly being sensible. But integration was 70 years ago and expansion more than 50 years ago. Older statistics add absolutely nothing to our understanding of the game.

Yeah, not a thing, Walt. Baseball began in 1947 and nothing that happened before that is of any consequence, except maybe Babe Ruth.

And Christ, the first thing I wrote here was that "Game Scores are an extremely useful down and dirty way of getting an approximate feel for the quality of a start, and a great advancement over Quality Starts and other imperfect metrics." I'm not against the concept at all, and one of the reasons I like it so much is that it shows us how different types of pitching uses can yield equally impressive results.

But I also wrote that "trying to say that Kerry Wood had the "best" game in history is silly, and wildly off the mark even by Game Score's own standard." I wrote that not because I don't think that the case for Wood or Kershaw can't be made, but only because I think the concept of "best" has to be defined before getting down to cases---and as we've seen, if you use Game Scores as your metric, the "best" games in history were pitched by Oeschger and Cadore.

**In 1998, 97 batters struck out more times than High Pocket Kelly's MLB-leading 92. Last year that number was up to 134.

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Not sure why we care about strikeouts in a ex post analysis of a game. I'd be more inclined to credit the guy who gets the 27 outs with the fewest pitches for being more dominant.

I'd agree that it'd be more efficient, but strikeouts reduce the dependence on fielders.

I also think context matters. Post-season games should get a huge leverage factor. I don't think you can compare what Wood did in a random game in May to what guys like Larsen, Koufax, Gibson, etc., did in the WS.

I think that'd be an option that I might call "GameScores+" or something like that. Personally I'd easily value Larsen's perfect game in a knotted World Series over a random early season game, but that's only one way of looking at it, and I can see the other POV.

   26. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 29, 2014 at 10:49 PM (#4739391)
One would think that Jerry Green hadn't noticed the merger with the American League, or expansion in the number of teams, or the reduction in offense since he started watching baseball in 1876.


George Bradley's job as a pitcher in 1876 was basically to give the hitter a hittable pitch, then to field his position. Fielding was so much more important than pitching that Bradley had a 3.60 RA to go along with that nice shiny 1.23 ERA.
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: June 29, 2014 at 11:41 PM (#4739431)
There is so much wrong with this article, that you just have to pick one thing.


For some peculiar reason that has eluded the Sabermetricians, there has been a glut of no-hitters in recent baseball history


Has he asked Sabermetricians why there has been a glut? Isn't a good argument that dips theory says that with the increases in strikeouts per games, and the more teams playing, that the odds of a no-hitter per season is going to go up?
   28. shoewizard Posted: June 29, 2014 at 11:44 PM (#4739434)
"Geeks" "freaks"

Nice discouse.

   29. TJ Posted: June 30, 2014 at 08:27 AM (#4739498)
I suggest a new BBTF stat- "Article Score". The formula would be to take the number of stupid, mindless, lazy, prejudiced, and wrong statements in any article and multiply that by the number of industry awards the writer has received from his sportswriting brethren (add 20 points of the writer has a HOF vote). I haven't done the math on this one, but I am pretty sure the score would top 100...
   30. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: June 30, 2014 at 08:46 AM (#4739507)
You're right of course Walt about Orie. I was thinking it was Aramis Ramirez at 3rd, who of course didn't come to the Cubs until 5 years later.
   31. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: June 30, 2014 at 08:54 AM (#4739510)
I suggest a new BBTF stat- "Article Score". The formula would be to take the number of stupid, mindless, lazy, prejudiced, and wrong statements in any article and multiply that by the number of industry awards the writer has received from his sportswriting brethren (add 20 points of the writer has a HOF vote).

You could then list all the pinata post articles along with their Article Scores, but it might prove embarrassing to the BTF honchos to quantify just how dependent they are on articles like this for keeping up the page views.
   32. bunyon Posted: June 30, 2014 at 09:31 AM (#4739525)
BEHOLD!
   33. Charles S. will not yield to this monkey court Posted: June 30, 2014 at 10:34 AM (#4739580)
20 strikeouts, one weak hit in one of the friendliest hitting environments ever in a traditionally hitter friendly ballpark against a good lineup.

The Wood game was the best-pitched game I've ever seen, but it was thrown on May 6. Wrigley Field may be a traditionally hitter-friendly park, but in April and May, it has always been a friend to pitchers. I've never read if sabermetricians do weather- or seasonally-adjusted (spring vs. summer) park adjustments, but Wrigley Field plays as two different parks over the course of the baseball season.
   34. frannyzoo Posted: June 30, 2014 at 11:07 AM (#4739628)
The Wood game is undeniably exciting/amazing, and this thread has me going back through Greg Maddux box scores, as his body of work, esp. in '94-'95 is what I recall as thinking: "this is the best pitching I've ever seen." This was the WTBS hey-day, so games stuck in the mind more easily (less visual competition). Still, despite the real thrill in looking back at Wood's game via YT, Maddux's work during this period was astounding.. A few boxscore examples:

88 pitch shutout (despite giving up 7 hits!) v. Pedro

Another 88 pitch two-hit shutout v. an admittedly weak Cardinals team

The one I remember most, 94 pitches in a shut-out at Coors Field

Naturally, none of the above have a Game Score above 92. I guess I'll always lean a bit too much to the qualitative.
   35. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: June 30, 2014 at 01:59 PM (#4739894)

The one I remember most, 94 pitches in a shut-out at Coors Field.


The one and only game I've attended at Coors.

Check out the total pitches for Aaron Cook, and the time of game. A thing of beauty, that was.
   36. Jeltzandini Posted: June 30, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4739914)
Naturally, none of the above have a Game Score above 92.


Maddux's high was 14 Ks. He's not going to show up on all time Game Score lists.

Wood had an HB in his game, but James didn't account for that when constructing the stat.
   37. bobm Posted: June 30, 2014 at 05:28 PM (#4740189)
Greg Maddux: From 1986 to 2008, Complete Game Shutout, sorted by fewest pitches

                                                                                 
Rk            Date  Tm Opp   Rslt  AppDec   IP H R ER BB SO HR UER Pit Str GSc BF
1       1987-07-01 CHC MON W  1-0 SHO9  W  9.0 4 0  0  1  2  0           0  80 28
                                                                                 
2       1997-04-27 ATL SDP W  2-0 SHO5  W  5.0 1 0  0  0  4  0   0  58  39  69 15
                                                                                 
3       1997-07-02 ATL NYY W  2-0 SHO9  W  9.0 3 0  0  0  8  0   0  84  61  89 28
                                                                                 
4       1995-08-20 ATL STL W  1-0 SHO9  W  9.0 2 0  0  0  9  0   0  88  66  92 29
5       1995-06-15 ATL MON W  2-0 SHO9  W  9.0 7 0  0  0  3  0   0  88  65  76 31
                                                                                 
6       2000-09-13 ATL FLA W  4-0 SHO9  W  9.0 4 0  0  0  4  0   0  89  60  83 29
7       2000-09-07 ATL ARI W  4-0 SHO9  W  9.0 4 0  0  0  6  0   0  89  69  85 32
8       1991-10-02 CHC PHI W  1-0 SHO9  W  9.0 3 0  0  0  6  0   0  89  63  87 30
                                                                                 
9       1998-04-15 ATL PIT W  7-0 SHO9  W  9.0 6 0  0  0  5  0   0  91  67  80 31
                                                                                 
10      1998-08-06 ATL CIN W  5-0 SHO9  W  9.0 3 0  0  0  6  0   0  92  58  87 29
                                                                                 
11      1994-08-11 ATL COL W 13-0 SHO9  W  9.0 3 0  0  0  4  0   0  94  69  85 30
                                                                                 
12      1992-08-16 CHC HOU W  1-0 SHO9  W  9.0 4 0  0  1  3  0   0  96  67  81 32
13      1990-04-29 CHC LAD W  4-0 SHO9  W  9.0 6 0  0  0  3  0   0  96  68  78 30
                                                                                 
14      1993-08-15 ATL CIN W  1-0 SHO9  W  9.0 4 0  0  2  6  0   0  97  68  83 30
                                                                                 
15      1998-06-07 ATL BAL W  9-0 SHO9  W  9.0 4 0  0  1  4  0   0  99  65  82 30
                                                                                 
16      2001-07-17 ATL TBD W  4-0 SHO9  W  9.0 6 0  0  0  9  0   0 100  74  84 32
                                                                                 
17      1989-04-27 CHC LAD W  1-0 SHO9  W  9.0 5 0  0  2  6  0   0 101  67  81 33
18      1988-06-18 CHC MON W  3-0 SHO9  W  9.0 5 0  0  1  5  0   0 101  69  81 32
                                                                                 
19      1998-06-27 ATL TOR W  2-0 SHO9  W  9.0 8 0  0  0 13  0   0 102  76  84 34
                                                                                 
20      2004-07-17 CHC MIL W  5-0 SHO9  W  9.0 6 0  0  0  4  0   0 103  71  79 30
                                                                                 
21      1998-07-02 ATL TBD W  6-0 SHO9  W  9.0 5 0  0  1  8  0   0 105  71  84 34
                                                                                 
22      1994-04-24 ATL PIT W  3-0 SHO9  W  9.0 3 0  0  0 11  0   0 106  73  92 30
23      1991-07-20 CHC HOU W  6-0 SHO9  W  9.0 8 0  0  0  6  0   0 106  75  77 34
                                                                                 
24      1992-08-31 CHC LAD W  2-0 SHO9  W  9.0 5 0  0  1  6  0   0 107  73  82 34
                                                                                 
25      1995-09-05 ATL STL W  1-0 SHO9  W  9.0 7 0  0  0  8  0   0 108  74  81 34
Rk            Date  Tm Opp   Rslt  AppDec   IP H R ER BB SO HR UER Pit Str GSc BF
26      1990-08-01 CHC PIT W  5-0 SHO9  W  9.0 5 0  0  3  6  0   0 108  65  80 35
                                                                                 
27      2001-05-02 ATL MIL W  1-0 SHO9  W  9.0 2 0  0  1 14  0   0 109  76  96 29
                                                                                 
28      1994-05-06 ATL MON W  5-0 SHO9  W  9.0 4 0  0  0  5  0   0 110  74  84 31
                                                                                 
29      2000-05-29 ATL CHC W  1-0 SHO9  W  9.0 6 0  0  2  8  0   0 111  75  81 35
                                                                                 
30      2001-05-25 ATL PIT W  1-0 SHO9  W  9.0 7 0  0  2  6  0   0 113  79  77 34
                                                                                 
31   1996-08-13(1) ATL PHI W  2-0 SHO9  W  9.0 8 0  0  1  7  0   0 115  79  77 36
                                                                                 
32      1992-09-30 CHC PIT W  6-0 SHO9  W  9.0 7 0  0  2  9  0   0 121  86  80 37
                                                                                 
33      1992-07-22 CHC CIN W  3-0 SHO9  W  9.0 6 0  0  2  4  0   0 122  76  77 33
                                                                                 
34      1988-05-11 CHC SDP W  1-0 SHO10 W 10.0 3 0  0  0  8  0   0 134  91  94 32
                                                                                 
35      1988-04-06 CHC ATL W  3-0 SHO9  W  9.0 3 0  0  6  3  0   0 143  85  78 35


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   38. Ron J2 Posted: June 30, 2014 at 08:24 PM (#4740358)
#37 That 0 pitch shutout is particularly (one might say unusually) efficient.

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