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Friday, August 24, 2012

Jim Crane is open to idea of Roger Clemens pitching for Astros this season

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Houston Astros owner Jim Crane said, while his club has not been contacted by Roger Clemens or his representatives about pitching for the Astros this season, he said he and his staff are getting prepared for that possibility, and he is open to the idea.

However, Crane said the last thing he wants is a decision like that to be perceived as a publicity stunt on the part of his franchise.

Crane said he would seek approval from Major League Baseball before going forward with any potential decision concerning Clemens.

Clemens will return to professional baseball for the first time since 2007 when he pitches on Saturday for the Sugar Land Skeeters against the Bridgeport Bluefish in an Atlantic League game.

“If it goes alright and he comes to us, we’ll talk to baseball about it at length,” Crane said in an interview with FOX 26 Sports.

“The only thing we don’t want to do is make it a publicity stunt. If we did it, I want to try and take it and turn it into a positive, which would be Roger’s doing it for the good of baseball. The extra proceeds on the game might go to the (Astros’) community charity deal to build (baseball) fields, do something positive out of it.

“I think the fans might like it. It might be fun and certainly get a few people in the ballpark. I don’t see anything negative about that, but the Astros wouldn’t want to do it for the money, the extra gate or anything like that.”

Repoz Posted: August 24, 2012 at 12:23 PM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. AROM Posted: August 24, 2012 at 12:38 PM (#4216770)
I thought the possibility made sense from a pure profit motive, a pure publicity stunt. From these comments, sounds like Crane is just curious to see what a 50 year old man can do. As am I. I think Clemens pitching a game would be fun, and Astro fans have suffered enough and deserve something fun.

Hope they can make it happen. But I kind of doubt it, looking at logistics. You'd want a home game, and it should not interfere with other teams' pennant race. So not against the Cards or Pirates. Last home game vs a non-contender is 9/16 against the Phillies. Is that enough time for Roger? I think it would have to be, at most, a 3 inning job like Satchel once did. Maybe it would only be one inning.
   2. TerpNats Posted: August 24, 2012 at 12:43 PM (#4216778)
If this happens, then we can say Roger Clemens wasn't his generation's Tom Seaver...but its Minnie Minoso.

(Can we also have Jamie Moyer pitch in relief?)
   3. Steve Treder Posted: August 24, 2012 at 12:46 PM (#4216785)
Hey, Bill Lee pitched a complete game in an independent league yesterday. Get him in there too!
   4. JJ1986 Posted: August 24, 2012 at 12:47 PM (#4216786)
The Astros just DFA'd Armando Galarraga, so I don't think they even have a fifth starter right now.
   5. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 01:00 PM (#4216809)
I thought the possibility made sense from a pure profit motive, a pure publicity stunt. From these comments, sounds like Crane is just curious to see what a 50 year old man can do. As am I. I think Clemens pitching a game would be fun, and Astro fans have suffered enough and deserve something fun.


I got a couple tickets for Bridgeport CT for the 15th and 16th of September, in case he pitches there then. It's a long shot I know, but at worst I'll take a road trip and see some indy baseball.
   6. Lassus Posted: August 24, 2012 at 01:22 PM (#4216843)
Veeck would be proud.
   7. base ball chick Posted: August 24, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4216878)
last time there was talk about roger clemens possibly joining the astros, it absolutely DOMINATED the news - no, not kidding. more than tebbow or lebrown james.

it's the only interesting or positive thing about the astros this entire year. i mean, what else can they say, brett wallace can't throw to first? or well, retread fernando martinez actually managed to throw a ball accurately or ben francisco, the phillies/toronto reject 5th OF finally has a full time job and is managing to hit .250?

all of us know that the astros team is kind of like colon cancer - you have a chance at survival, but really, it's not real too good and this here team is gonna be at the bottom of the ML for decades.

roger clemens is like when the surgeon comes up and tells you - well, we think we got it all and we'll let you heal up and enjoy a little before chemotherapy
   8. SoSH U at work Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:06 PM (#4216898)
the astros team is kind of like colon cancer


I think we've got next year's marketing campaign.

   9. cardsfanboy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:06 PM (#4216899)
I'm all for Roger Clemens resetting his hof eligibility. With the backlog and the controversy, as many guys who aren't shoe ins, that we can delay, the better. (basically if you aren't Griffey or Maddux, look at finding a team to give you some playing time)
   10. Darren Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:10 PM (#4216904)
I don't like the "we'll talk to the league" part. There's no reason for the league to say no, really. Clemens never failed a test and was as exonerated as he could possibly be in court. Meanwhile, Andy Pettitte has been pitching for the Yankees this year.
   11. Tippecanoe Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:13 PM (#4216908)
The Astros just DFA'd Armando Galarraga, so I don't think they even have a fifth starter right now


Alfonso Soriano's available.
   12. Urkel's Boner Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:19 PM (#4216920)
And if the HOF voters haven't lightened up on the whole steroid thing five years from now, hopefully the Astros will still suck enough then to give him another start at age 55.
   13. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:24 PM (#4216924)
I don't like the "we'll talk to the league" part.


Hey, it worked to keep Bonds out.
   14. Darren Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:28 PM (#4216931)
Yeah, but I don't think you're supposed to say it out loud.
   15. Gazizza, my Dilznoofuses! Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:56 PM (#4216948)
the astros team is kind of like colon cancer


And Roger Clemens is the ... uh, what cures cancer?
   16. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: August 24, 2012 at 03:34 PM (#4216975)
I don't like the "we'll talk to the league" part. There's no reason for the league to say no, really.
Well, other than it being a publicity stunt.
   17. Darren Posted: August 24, 2012 at 03:58 PM (#4216998)
Why would the league say no to a publicity stunt? How would they distinguish it from the Astros signing any other player they thought was good? Like the Yankees signing Pettitte or the Rockies using Moyer, or etc.
   18. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 04:12 PM (#4217010)
From the photo of Clemens on the Skeeters site, he doesn't really look to be in game shape.
   19. Darren Posted: August 24, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4217017)
You shut up!
   20. Srul Itza Posted: August 24, 2012 at 04:40 PM (#4217041)
From the photo of Clemens on the Skeeters site, he doesn't really look to be in game shape.


You mean he does not have the athletic physique of guys like David Wells, Mickey Lolich, Bartolo Colon and John Kruk?
   21. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 04:42 PM (#4217044)
Hmmm, is Jack Morris pulling some strings here? Someone should check if Biggio and Bagwell will be in the lineup too.
   22. tjm1 Posted: August 24, 2012 at 04:59 PM (#4217063)
Satchel Paige pitched a 3 scoreless inning stint at age 58. I don't see why Clemens couldn't pitch in relief at age 50, especially if he really is still throwing 87 without having been working out much lately.
   23. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4217068)
Let's be serious for a second:

Clemens was only throwing at 90 or 91 during his "Roger Clemens is in George's box! Oh touch my box!" comeback in 2007. He struggled to be league average - and it was a daily struggle, as I watched every game - and also had a balky elbow by the time it was over. I don't hold out great hope that half a decade later, half a decade removed from baseball, at age 50 and not in game shape, that he can come back and be effective. Not that I'd love to see him try.

Although if Jeter isn't playing short behind him, then, well, maybe.
   24. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:52 PM (#4217089)
Clemens was only throwing at 90 or 91 during his "Roger Clemens is in George's box! Oh touch my box!" comeback in 2007. He struggled to be league average - and it was a daily struggle, as I watched every game - and also had a balky elbow by the time it was over. I don't hold out great hope that half a decade later, half a decade removed from baseball, at age 50 and not in game shape, that he can come back and be effective.

Hell, he sounds like he'd fit right into the Red Sox rotation. I'd say Josh Beckett better watch his ass or he'll be flipping burgers instead of taters.
   25. Darren Posted: August 24, 2012 at 05:58 PM (#4217092)
Clemens peripherals were quite respectable with the Yanks. And pitching in the NL in 2012 is a better place than pitching in the AL East in 2007. He'll be fine.
   26. Srul Itza Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:22 PM (#4217111)
Given the pitching now available to Houston, I don't think he could do much worse that what they are trotting out to the mound now.
   27. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: August 24, 2012 at 08:56 PM (#4217361)
But he's in the best shape of his career!
   28. SoSH U at work Posted: August 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM (#4217449)
Clemens peripherals were quite respectable with the Yanks. And pitching in the NL in 2012 is a better place than pitching in the AL East in 2007. He'll be fine.


Or, looked at another way, he's going to pitch about three innings for the worst team in almost a decade. Unless he collapses and dies on the mound, there's really little that can go terribly wrong.

   29. AROM Posted: August 24, 2012 at 11:40 PM (#4217521)
Re: 87 mph

I'm curious as to whether Clemens can consistently hit 87, or if he just threw one pitch at 87 while working at 83-85.
   30. Gonfalon B. Posted: August 27, 2012 at 07:20 PM (#4219595)
Unless he collapses and dies on the mound, there's really little that can go terribly wrong.

The BBWAA takes precisely the opposite view.
   31. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 27, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4219607)
Bottom line: He looks fat in a uniform right now. He said after the game that if he were to ever entertain the notion of pitching in the majors again, he'd need a minimum of 6-8 weeks to get ready, meaning that "it would have to be a spring training kind of thing." As there is only 5 weeks left to this season, I think there is almost no chance he'd pitch even a few innings this year. I don't hold it as implausible that he'd try next spring, but he doesn't want to embarrass himself, and in order to have a chance not to embarrass himself he'd need to get in shape and be working out regularly (preferably, with steroids and HGH), rather than working out/throwing once a week or so. He knows that.

   32. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: August 27, 2012 at 07:44 PM (#4219612)
I'm curious as to whether Clemens can consistently hit 87, or if he just threw one pitch at 87 while working at 83-85.


I watched the game, so I can help you with this. He was consistently hitting 87.
   33. Darren Posted: August 27, 2012 at 08:11 PM (#4219628)
   34. JJ1986 Posted: August 27, 2012 at 09:14 PM (#4219663)
I think there is almost no chance he'd pitch even a few innings this year.


So, that means he'll be in Houston in two weeks.

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