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Wednesday, February 12, 2014

Jim Fregosi suffers stroke

Former major league manager Jim Fregosi suffered a stroke while on a Major League Baseball alumni cruise and has been hospitalized in the Cayman Islands, sources close to Fregosi said Wednesday.

Fregosi’s family currently is trying to make arrangements to fly him to Miami.

Fregosi, 71, currently serves as a special assistant to Atlanta Braves general manager Frank Wren. He managed 15 years in the majors with the California Angels, Chicago White Sox, Philadelphia Phillies and Toronto Blue Jays.

Repoz Posted: February 12, 2014 at 07:21 PM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: February 12, 2014 at 07:47 PM (#4655914)
Yikes. Hope he recovers quickly and fully.
   2. Shredder Posted: February 12, 2014 at 07:51 PM (#4655917)
Prayers for him. My dad used to do business with Fregosi right after the Angels fired him. My dad was a food buyer for Sheraton and Fregosi owned a food brokerage. I had lunch with him once when I was a kid and spent a fair amount of games (including game four in 1986) in Fregosi's season seats at the Big A. Very nice man. Best wishes.
   3. TerpNats Posted: February 12, 2014 at 08:01 PM (#4655923)
Fondly remembered for his work with the '93 Phillies, one of the weirdest rosters ever. They were extremely patient at the plate.
   4. RollingWave Posted: February 12, 2014 at 08:58 PM (#4655940)
Fergosi is only 71? he looked that looked when he coached the Phillies back in the early 90s ...
   5. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: February 12, 2014 at 09:14 PM (#4655949)
Geez that sucks. Hope he is OK. I don't know much about the Caymans but I would want a loved one as close to home after something so serious as possible. Best to Fregosi.
   6. Wahoo Sam Posted: February 12, 2014 at 10:39 PM (#4655979)
An excellent shortstop, one of the best in the game in the 1960s, and a near-HOF type of career. I hope he recovers quickly.
   7. Spivey Posted: February 12, 2014 at 10:44 PM (#4655981)
I also hope he recovers quickly. He was a guy that when I was a teenager just thought of as a manager and didn't realize he had a legit HOF peak.
   8. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM (#4655986)
An excellent shortstop, one of the best in the game in the 1960s, and a near-HOF type of career. I hope he recovers quickly.

for me, Fregosi, Albie Pierson , and Daddy Wags WERE the expansion Angels*--even though BRef tells me that Fregosi wasn't a regular until their 3rd year

*and Bobby Knoop
   9. Textbook Editor Posted: February 12, 2014 at 11:14 PM (#4656012)

Fondly remembered for his work with the '93 Phillies, one of the weirdest rosters ever. They were extremely patient at the plate.


Everyone now thinks/assumes it was a team hepped up on 'roids, but really the key to their offense was their walks--almost every guy 1-8 and most of the bench players drew decent amounts of walks (or in some cases loads and loads of walks). The same is basically true of the 2007-2009 peak Phillies team.

Naturally, Amaro, Jr. doesn't see that this is the case, and has done his level best to drum patience right out of the entire organization.
   10. God Posted: February 12, 2014 at 11:21 PM (#4656017)
These ex-managers need to stop going on baseball-themed cruises. First Earl Weaver and now this.
   11. Morty Causa Posted: February 13, 2014 at 01:03 AM (#4656060)
Fregosi was really a good player. It's not an exaggeration to claim he was on track for a HOF career when he more or less fell off a cliff in his late '20s. What happened? Injuries? A lifestyle conducive to becoming overweight and out of shape. Seems like he would have benefited from the training culture that developed in the '80s and continuing.
   12. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 13, 2014 at 02:39 AM (#4656073)
Fregosi was really a good player. It's not an exaggeration to claim he was on track for a HOF career when he more or less fell off a cliff in his late '20s. What happened? Injuries?

all sources state that he had a "tumor in the foot". There are only 2 possibilities that I can think of (and, yes, I am a doctor and don't play one on TV) --one type is what was used to be called a "Giant cell tumor" of the tendon sheath and the other is a neuroma--both of which are completely benign and treatable. But both involve surgery and it's possible that the Angels thought it would make him damaged goods.
   13. Morty Causa Posted: February 13, 2014 at 03:20 AM (#4656080)
Thank you for the info.
   14. Knock on any Iorg Posted: February 13, 2014 at 07:36 AM (#4656090)
Concur with #5 that I would seek every avenue to get him to competent medical care stateside. Maybe there are excellent doctors in the Caymans but Cleveland Clinic in Miami is reputed to be near the top of the list generally speaking.
   15. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: February 13, 2014 at 06:21 PM (#4656581)
Get well soon.

I always think of Fregosi as the guy the Mets traded Nolan Ryan for. Growing up I didn't realize how good Fregosi had been before the trade, I just knew how lopsided the trade had been in hindsight. But yeah, he had a legit peak. More career WAR than Nomar or Miguel Tejada.
   16. Moeball Posted: February 13, 2014 at 06:35 PM (#4656589)
An excellent shortstop, one of the best in the game in the 1960s, and a near-HOF type of career. I hope he recovers quickly.


The best shortstop in the major leagues from 1961-70:

1)by a good-sized margin (almost 10 WAR ahead of #2 Maury Wills)
2)and in spite of giving everyone else a 2 year head start since Fregosi didn't start playing regularly until 1963.

Guys like Groat, Wills and Versalles won the MVPs and Aparacio probably had the most fans during that time, but Fregosi was better than any of them.

*and Bobby Knoop


Knoop and Fregosi made a great DP combination that Baseball Digest declared was the American League's answer to Mazeroski and Alley in the mid-'60s.

Maz and Knoop made such a big impact on me as a young baseball fan that now I sponsor their B-Ref pages. I would have nabbed Fregosi's, too, but someone beat me to it!
   17. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: February 13, 2014 at 07:58 PM (#4656616)
Mike DiGiovanna of the LA Times is reporting that Fregosi has died.
   18. AndrewJ Posted: February 13, 2014 at 08:01 PM (#4656618)
He began his managerial career with two winning seasons (with the Angels) and ended it with two winning seasons (with Toronto) and in the intervening 11 seasons had just one winning year -- the 1993 Phillies.

RIP.
   19. 'Spos stares out the window, waits for spring Posted: February 13, 2014 at 08:09 PM (#4656620)
He was always very chatty as an advance scout. Great guy to watch a game with.
RIP
   20. BDC Posted: February 13, 2014 at 08:25 PM (#4656626)
Yes, this is a shame. A fine figure in baseball, and a notable player of my youth.
   21. AndrewJ Posted: February 13, 2014 at 08:31 PM (#4656634)
UPDATE: Tracy Ringolsby just Tweeted this a couple of minutes ago:

Jim Fregosi is still in a Miami hospital. He suffered multiple strokes. He has not died.
   22. steagles Posted: February 13, 2014 at 08:38 PM (#4656636)
fregosi has apparently been taken off life-support. either that means he's well enough to not need it, or on the verge of certain death. either way, hooray for journalistic integrity.
   23. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 13, 2014 at 08:40 PM (#4656637)
His condition was upgraded on Wikipedia.
   24. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: February 13, 2014 at 08:42 PM (#4656639)
Yeah, DiGiovanna jumped the gun. Sorry guys! He's usually a decent news source.
   25. AndrewJ Posted: February 13, 2014 at 09:06 PM (#4656651)
Fregosi guided the Phillies to a 13-game winning streak in July-August of 1991. One of the weakest teams ever to win 13 straight.
   26. Howie Menckel Posted: February 13, 2014 at 09:27 PM (#4656659)

@howardeskin 1h

Former Manager Jim Fregosi dies at 71. Had suffered a massive stroke while on a cruise is last 36 hours.

..................

@howardeskin 48m

Former manager Jim Fregosi has been taken off support, but has not died. Info I got was pre mature and I apologize. He hangs on but very bad


   27. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 13, 2014 at 09:36 PM (#4656660)
Fregosi guided the Phillies to a 13-game winning streak in July-August of 1991. One of the weakest teams ever to win 13 straight.
Unless I missed somebody, they're one of four teams with a losing record for the season to have a 13-game winning streak.
1. 1999 Padres 74-88 (.457)- 14-game streak
2. 1991 Phillies 78-84 (.481)
2. 1999 Orioles 78-84 (.481)
4. 1942 Indians 75-79 (.487)
   28. Jim Wisinski Posted: February 13, 2014 at 09:41 PM (#4656662)
Fregosi guided the Phillies to a 13-game winning streak in July-August of 1991. One of the weakest teams ever to win 13 straight.


The 2004 Rays (70-91, one game hurricaned out) won 12 straight and 30 of 40. They preceded that stretch by losing 12 of 13 and succeeded it by losing 8 of 10.

Edit: The most noteworthy thing about that 40 game stretch was that Rey Sanchez hit 2 of his 15 career home runs in it. A walk-off inside the parker against the Rockies in extra innings (the fielder turned a single into the home run by diving for the ball and missing) and one against Toronto that actually went over the fence.
   29. AndrewJ Posted: February 13, 2014 at 10:15 PM (#4656676)
The 2004 Rays (70-91, one game hurricaned out) won 12 straight and 30 of 40.

Just checked them out on BB-Ref. The Rays began that stretch 13 games out of first. After that 30-10 run they were... 10 games out.
   30. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 13, 2014 at 10:23 PM (#4656680)
As everyone knows, the longest winning streak in MLB history is 26 by the 1916 Giants. And they also had a 17 game streak earlier that season. But they finished 86-66, 4 games out. Which means that outside those 2 streaks, they were 43-66
   31. Ron J2 Posted: February 14, 2014 at 01:50 PM (#4656933)
#11 Not many were as good as he was in his early years. I have the center of his prime at age 24 (only ARod and Vaughan were younger at the center of their prime). WAR sees him as a B defender and an OPS+ of 122 (what he put up in his 5 best seasons) is obviously pretty good for a SS. So yeah, not hyperbole to say he was on a HOF track.

I've got him as the #15 prime, in the same general range as Joe Cronin, George Davis, Like Appling and Barry Larkin. Pretty nice company.

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