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Saturday, July 26, 2008

Joba Chamerblain adds new buzz to Kevin Youkilis-Sox feud

“Buzz! I’m going through all your private stuff!”

Yankees ace-in-the-making Joba Chamberlain and Boston’s All-Star first baseman have some bad blood in their history and the righthander’s brushback pitch in the seventh inning of Friday night’s game brought it back to a roiling boil. The 2-0 pitch put Youkilis on the deck. He sprang to his feet almost as quickly as he went down and came up screaming. Chamberlain stood on the mound unfazed and up a strike in the count because the ball struck Youkilis’ bat. Home plate umpire Marty Foster got between the two and issued a warning to both benches.

“It was right at my—- head,” Youkilis clearly said to Foster.

“He has great command until Youk gets in there,” Boston manager Terry Francona said of Chamberlain.

...Infuriated players in the Boston dugout, most notably starting pitcher Josh Beckett, shouted at Chamberlain and Foster from the top step.

“Inside? It was at his—- head,” Beckett said. “That wasn’t inside. Inside is the pitches I was throwing to Alex (Rodriguez).”

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   1. Scott Kazmir's breaking balls Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:03 PM (#2874674)
Youk....calm down, buddy. Your --- head is not considered a vital organ.
   2. Scott Kazmir's breaking balls Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:07 PM (#2874678)
Oh! That head. Never mind.
   3. Xander Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:24 PM (#2874686)
Chamberlain is a gutless ####. He's the worlds largest tough guy until he melts down in a playoff game because of a bunch of bugs.
   4. hardrain Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:36 PM (#2874692)
#3 = Sox fan boy bellyaching...typical. Joba is so far into Youk's head now...it's brilliant. Sox finally getting payback for the free reign they had at the Yankee batters under the do-nothing, somnolent Torre.
   5. James SC Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:42 PM (#2874697)
This is mostly just the stuff that good rivalries are made of, but what really bothers me is all of the sycophantic media were spewing as "reasons" there was no way Joba was throwing at Youk. Are you kidding me? Since when is a 2-0 count and no man on base a "good" reason why he "couldn't" have been throwing at Youk. An 0-2 count or a couple men on sure, but that situation was not a situation you wouldn't throw at someone in.
   6. hardrain Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:44 PM (#2874699)
yes...it has to be on purpose...do denying that.
   7. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:45 PM (#2874701)
“Inside? It was at his --- head,” Beckett said. “That wasn’t inside. Inside is the pitches I was throwing to Alex (Rodriguez).”


There's no higher compliment than being whined at by a pitcher you've just outdueled.
   8. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:53 PM (#2874708)
This is F!@3ing BS, we're headhunting tomorrow with our worst pitcher. If we're going to sink to the lowest denominator, I want to make sure we're as low as we can go. This is what happens when we decide to start administering vaccines. We let this !@#hat throw at people "by mistake"
   9. Benji Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:55 PM (#2874712)
When is Youkilis going to charge the mound? How many "coincidental" balls at his head will it take?
   10. OCD SS Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:56 PM (#2874713)
I don't think we're headhunting with Wakefield.
   11. hardrain Posted: July 26, 2008 at 02:57 PM (#2874714)
The Yankee hitters will be quaking in fear today at the dubious prospects of Wakefield's 60 mph fluttering toward their faces.
   12. aleskel Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:03 PM (#2874720)
welp, here's another Yankees/Sox story that's never going to go away. Fantastic.
   13. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:03 PM (#2874721)
I don't think we're headhunting with Wakefield.

We should start Timlin, and then just throw at somebody. THen he gets booted, and Wakefield comes in.
   14. Darren Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:03 PM (#2874722)
The weird thing about these situations is that the pitcher's discipline is often based on how the batter reacts. If Youkilis charges the mound there, they probably suspend Chamberlain. That's just the way it goes for some reason.

And hey, Wake can crank his fastball up into the lowe 70s, so watch out!
   15. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:07 PM (#2874726)
#3 = Sox fan boy bellyaching...typical. Joba is so far into Youk's head now...it's brilliant.


Seriously, could anyone blame Youkilis if Chamberlain is in his head? Would you want to stand in against that fastball if there's a pretty good chance it's going to be on a beeline for your rather large noggin?
   16. Best Dressed Chicken in Town Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:12 PM (#2874735)
Youkilis may have played the most pathetic game of any major leaguer in the history of forever. Crying about a foul ball? And that "swing" in his first AB? Weak sauce kikko. I hope Joba throws at him every single time they ever face through the end of the world, and Youk's bug-infected goatee just quivers more and more in anger.
   17. Cowboy Popup Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:13 PM (#2874737)
welp, here's another Yankees/Sox story that's never going to go away. Fantastic.

Perfectly worded. The Fox intro today will be especially unbearable.
   18. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:14 PM (#2874739)
This is F!@3ing BS, we're headhunting tomorrow with our worst pitcher. If we're going to sink to the lowest denominator, I want to make sure we're as low as we can go. This is what happens when we decide to start administering vaccines. We let this !@#hat throw at people "by mistake"

We should start Timlin, and then just throw at somebody. THen he gets booted, and Wakefield comes in.


Wok, you are my all-time Bosox fanboy. Have you ever thought of taking your act to YouTube? I'd bet you'd be on ESPN within a week.
   19. hardrain Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:15 PM (#2874740)
#15 - no, I can't blame Youk at all -- and it has happened too many times to be a coincidence, despite the game situation at the time. For whatever reason, Joba has chosen Youk to pick on. Youk should take it as a compliment. It's the way baseball used to be played. But still, the Yanks have would never do this under Torre even when Pedro put Jeter and Soriano in the hospital on teh same day.
   20. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:15 PM (#2874743)
Wok, you are my all-time Bosox fanboy. Have you ever thought of taking your act to YouTube? I'd bet you'd be on ESPN within a week.

What's that thing withe the Britney Spears dude crying? I'd do something along those lines, but I'd probably weep about either Cory Lidle or Joba's dad's crippled ass.
   21. Xander Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:15 PM (#2874744)
This is what happens when we decide to start administering vaccines.
Don't tell that to Harlan Chamberlain.
   22. pkb33 Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:20 PM (#2874749)
Pedro didn't throw at guys heads; that's a major difference.

Joba is going to get attacked one of these times, and he's going to get teammates injured at some point, too. He's a terrific pitcher but someone---be it the manager or his teammates--is going to have to explain to him that throwing inside and intimidating guys is baseball but throwing 95+ at someone's head is assault and likely to bounce back on his own guys, too.
   23. Darren Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:20 PM (#2874750)
I love the Jeter and Soriano in the hospital story. In a couple of years, Pedro will have actually killed them.
   24. JC in DC Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:23 PM (#2874754)
Pedro didn't throw at guys heads; that's a major difference.

Joba is going to get attacked one of these times, and he's going to get teammates injured at some point, too. He's a terrific pitcher but someone---be it the manager or his teammates--is going to have to explain to him that throwing inside and intimidating guys is baseball but throwing 95+ at someone's head is assault and likely to bounce back on his own guys, too.


I really don't think he intentionally threw at him last night.
   25. hardrain Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:25 PM (#2874758)
#23 - it's true...that's exactly what happened....the reason Jeter's range has improved this year is because he is no longer bound by his heavy earth body...ethereal spirits are generally much better going to their left.

Until Youk charges the mound -- he will get thrown at consistently. Not saying it's right.
   26. aleskel Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:26 PM (#2874759)
hey guys, let's keep rehashing this! surely we'll be able to get to the truth if we keep repeating the same points!
   27. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:27 PM (#2874760)
Wok, you are my all-time Bosox fanboy. Have you ever thought of taking your act to YouTube? I'd bet you'd be on ESPN within a week.

What's that thing withe the Britney Spears dude crying? I'd do something along those lines, but I'd probably weep about either Cory Lidle or Joba's dad's crippled ass.


Go for it, my man. Only you might want to draw the line about re-enacting that Lidle denouement, since I've heard they've reinforced the antiaircraft patrol along the East River.

But you can always channel Richard Widmark in Kiss of Death and push Joba's dad down the steps of a Brooklyn tenement building. That'll give us all something to talk about.
   28. pkb33 Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:28 PM (#2874762)
#23 - it's true...that's exactly what happened....the reason Jeter's range has improved this year is because he is no longer bound by his heavy earth body...ethereal spirits are generally much better going to their left.

The question to ask yourself is how close their hands were to the plate on those pitches.

All inside pitches are not the same; that's a key distinction being glossed over by several here.
   29. ??'s Biggest Fan! Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:29 PM (#2874763)
If I were Youkilis, I'd Cobb Chamberlain the next time I faced him. I'd bunt down the first base line, then spike his pitching hand when he tried to pick the ball up.

If I were Joba, I'd simply pull out a shank and stab Youkilis in the groin as he comes barreling down the first base line.

I await with glee the furthering escalation of kevin's scenario in this thread.
   30. OCD SS Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:30 PM (#2874764)
I see Youk charging the mound and Joba taking a swing at him. And Youks dropping his head/letting Joba hit him square in the forehead, breaking his pitching hand.
   31. Rally Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:33 PM (#2874769)
“He has great command until Youk gets in there,” Boston manager Terry Francona said of Chamberlain.

Sounds like great command to me. Throw a pitch that's impossible to hit, makes the batter wet his pants, and even get a strike out of it? Sounds ideal, the only thing he could have done better is have it deflect off the bat and into fair territory, a harmless bouncer back to the mound.
   32. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:34 PM (#2874770)

I love the Jeter and Soriano in the hospital story. In a couple of years, Pedro will have actually killed them.


A few years after that, Jeter will rise from the dead at the hospital and resurrect Soriano. What? They already call Yankee Stadium a "cathedral".
   33. OCD SS Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:36 PM (#2874772)
I love the Jeter and Soriano in the hospital story. In a couple of years, Pedro will have actually killed them.


I believe that when Jeter finally does die, that pitch will be listed as the offical cause of death.
   34. Robert S. Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:36 PM (#2874773)
A few years after that, Jeter will rise from the dead at the hospital and resurrect Soriano. What? They already call Yankee Stadium a "cathedral".

Nice try, but Jeter can't die and Pedro's touch can only bring life.
   35. Darren Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:37 PM (#2874774)
AROM,

If he did that, he wouldn't get the strikeout. This was a better plan.
   36. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:45 PM (#2874778)
But you can always channel Richard Widmark in Kiss of Death and push Joba's dad down the steps of a Brooklyn tenement building. That'll give us all something to talk about.

Isn't that a Dave Chappelle skit?
   37. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:47 PM (#2874782)
hey guys, let's keep rehashing this! surely we'll be able to get to the truth if we keep repeating the same points!

The truth no longer matters. What matters now is that this thing gets escalated to the ugliest and lowest point possible, and for my side to minimize its own damages while doing the maximum to the opposition.
   38. Swedish Chef Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:53 PM (#2874785)
and for my side to minimize its own damages while doing the maximum to the opposition.

That's rational, I don't think you can combine rationality with a testosterone-fueled escalation.
   39. aleskel Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:55 PM (#2874787)
The truth no longer matters. What matters now is that this thing gets escalated to the ugliest and lowest point possible, and for my side to minimize its own damages while doing the maximum to the opposition.

reminds me of Kenneth Mars in Young Frankenstein

"people, please, a riot is a dangerous and ugly thing ... and I think it's just about time that we had one!"
   40. Rally Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:56 PM (#2874788)
If he did that, he wouldn't get the strikeout. This was a better plan.


I'd rather take the easy out on strike 2 than the chance he might just hit my 2 strike pitch. But that's just me.
   41. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:56 PM (#2874790)
"Youkilis may have played the most pathetic game of any major leaguer in the history of forever. Crying about a foul ball? And that "swing" in his first AB? Weak sauce kikko. I hope Joba throws at him every single time they ever face through the end of the world, and Youk's bug-infected goatee just quivers more and more in anger."

we're seriously ignoring the ethnic slur used in this? nice job making it sound like "kiddo" though. you ####### prick.

#### the Yankees, i hope that fat #### Chamberlain ends up like all the other yankees pitching stars- overhyped and overwhelmed in the bigs.
   42. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:58 PM (#2874792)
#### the Yankees, i hope that fat #### Chamberlain ends up like all the other yankees pitching stars- overhyped and overwhelmed in the bigs.

I hope Lugo makes Joba end up like his dad.
   43. Cowboy Popup Posted: July 26, 2008 at 03:59 PM (#2874796)
i hope that fat #### Chamberlain ends up like all the other yankees pitching stars- overhyped and overwhelmed in the bigs.

I think you're going to be disappointed.
   44. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:02 PM (#2874799)

I think you're going to be disappointed.


Possibly.
   45. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:03 PM (#2874800)
we're seriously ignoring the ethnic slur used in this? nice job making it sound like "kiddo" though. you ####### prick.

I took that as a reference to Kikkoman soy sauce, but maybe I'm naive.
   46. Raskolnikov Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:08 PM (#2874805)

I took that as a reference to Kikkoman soy sauce, but maybe I'm naive.


Wouldn't that confirm it as a racial slur?
   47. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:12 PM (#2874814)
I took that as a reference to Kikkoman soy sauce, but maybe I'm naive.


That'd be the first time in the history of Google that the phrase has been used, then. I'm sorry if I'm mistaken, but it looks like a ####### prick statement.
   48. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:14 PM (#2874817)
Wouldn't that confirm it as a racial slur?

I've never heard of soy sauce being an anti-Jewish slur.

Basically, I thought he liked the ring of "weak sauce" and then went with the Kikkoman reference because he was rolling with the sauce theme.
   49. Raskolnikov Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:17 PM (#2874821)
I've never heard of soy sauce being an anti-Jewish slur.

As an anti-East Asian slur - kind of like a "narrow-eyed" stereotype or the stereotype that got Fuzzy Zoeller in trouble with Tiger Woods.
   50. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:21 PM (#2874823)
As an anti-East Asian slur - kind of like a "narrow-eyed" stereotype or the stereotype that got Fuzzy Zoeller in trouble with Tiger Woods.

In understood him to be referring to Youkilis. If that was a reference to Wok, well, surely. But that's not how I read it.
   51. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:22 PM (#2874824)
Rask, rLr hasn't even learned to drive a car yet. And you're expecting him to get nuanced insult right?

This is a bizarre non sequitur.
   52. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:24 PM (#2874831)

This is a bizarre non sequitur.


i'm digging that Kevin is ignoring the actual slur to get in a dig at you. i guess Kevin agrees with someone calling Youk a kike, then. about what i'd expect from the most morally bankrupt Red Sox fan on the site.

(fun diagramming game- diagram the insults from each person in a coherent flow chart!)
   53. NJ in NY (Now with Baby!) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:27 PM (#2874832)
Wait, I didn't catch the kikko thing at all. What racial slur would that be?

EDIT: Ohhh...I see where you're heading now.
   54. OrioleJMC Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:28 PM (#2874833)
I hope everyone realizes that Kevin Youkilis is neither Jewish nor East-Asian. The kikko reference is very likely in regards to kikkoman soy sauce, which given the usage of the popular and far over-used internet parlance, "weaksauce".

One question: is kevin always like this?

I knew he was anti-Bonds and pro-Sox, but jeez he's like patron saint of fanboyism.
   55. Raskolnikov Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:29 PM (#2874836)
yeah, reading back over it, I mistakenly thought the kikko term was directed at Wok.
   56. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:30 PM (#2874837)
i'm digging that Kevin is ignoring the actual slur to get in a dig at you.

It's not even a dig. I live in a place awesome enough that I've never needed to learn how to drive. If, as seems likely, I end up moving to some benighted place where driving a car is a useful skill, I will learn it. If that's the best he can come up with, I must be living right.

As far as the slur on Youkilis, I see what you're saying, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt on things like this and, to my mind, it just kind of rolled with the "weak sauce" comment. It also would have been funny if he had said, "Weak sauce, Lea & Perrin."
   57. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:34 PM (#2874841)
The kikko reference is very likely in regards to kikkoman soy sauce, which given the usage of the popular and far over-used internet parlance, "weaksauce".


yes, because soy sauce is so weak.
   58. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:35 PM (#2874843)
yes, because soy sauce is so weak.

I think you're overthinking this. It's possible it was an ethnic slur, but I deem that fairly unlikely.
   59. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:35 PM (#2874844)
Whatever, my new theory is that Yasser Arafat is communicating to Joba's dad from beyond the grave. They'll let him into Muslim Heaven, but only if his son throws at the Jew.
   60. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:39 PM (#2874849)
Whatever, my new theory is that Yasser Arafat is communicating to Joba's dad from beyond the grave. They'll let him into Muslim Heaven, but only if his son throws at the Jew.

By Jove, I think you've got it.
   61. ericr Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:40 PM (#2874850)
We're really raising the bar for message board discussions here
   62. NJ in NY (Now with Baby!) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:40 PM (#2874851)

One question: is kevin always like this?


Unfortunately...yes. Though I do enjoy his basketball commentary...for the most part. Speaking of which, kevin, what do you think of the Rose v. Beasley situation? Personally, I am lot more confident in Beasley's ability than I am in Rose's.
   63. PerroX Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:41 PM (#2874853)
The Sox will whine to the press like they did about the Rays with no follow through.

Lose today, and they're tied in the loss column with a Yankees team that's played with one hand behind its back all season.
   64. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:47 PM (#2874859)
Whatever, my new theory is that Yasser Arafat is communicating to Joba's dad from beyond the grave. They'll let him into Muslim Heaven, but only if his son throws at the Jew.


Yes, but what does this have to do with Barack Hussein Obama?
   65. NJ in NY (Now with Baby!) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:49 PM (#2874863)
I like that Joba isn't walking the park anymore. If the Yankees can somehow make the playoffs, I'm very confident in their chances.
   66. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:57 PM (#2874878)
Youkilis might be the biggest crybaby meathead in all of sports, but I understand why he's cheesed. Next time I see him drunk and practically fondling somebody's girlfriend at Daisy Buchanan's, I'll tell him so.
   67. Guapo Posted: July 26, 2008 at 04:58 PM (#2874880)
This might be the worst thread in the history of the site, and that's saying a lot.
   68. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:10 PM (#2874890)
worst thread ever
   69. PerroX Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:12 PM (#2874893)
the worst thread in the history of the site


70+ posts with only three from kevin? Not even close.
   70. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:13 PM (#2874895)
i hope that fat #### Chamberlain ends up like all the other yankees pitching stars- overhyped and overwhelmed in the bigs.

It could happen I guess, but it sure doesn't look like it so far.

One thing that isn't being talked about a lot is that it's looking more and more like little Stein was absolutely right to insist he be made a starter, when almost everyone (including his own GM) was pretty much calling him an idiot for doing so.
   71. NJ in NY (Now with Baby!) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:16 PM (#2874900)
One thing that isn't being talked about a lot is that it's looking more and more like little Stein was absolutely right to insist he be made a starter, when almost everyone (including his own GM) was pretty much calling him an idiot for doing so.

...by "almost everyone (including his own GM)" do you mean "the mainstream media"?
   72. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:17 PM (#2874901)
when almost everyone (including his own GM) was pretty much calling him an idiot for doing so.

That seems a tad bit revisionist. The entire organization was committed to Chamberlain being a starter from the outset. But they had to limit his innings this season somehow, and starting him in the bullpen was the obvious way to accomplish that.

OTOH, I'm quite sure that Cashman did think Hank's constant blustering to the press about this was idiotic.
   73. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:18 PM (#2874902)
when almost everyone (including his own GM) was pretty much calling him an idiot for doing so.

This is is just not true, but since this is the worst thread ever let's keep it as fact.
   74. JC in DC Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:24 PM (#2874906)
He must, b/c I'm pretty sure the whole reliever to starter conversion idea was either Cashman's originally, or he signed on very quickly.

kikko is an ethnic slur? Does that mean Kiki Vandeweghe has been a jab at Jews (or Japanese) all along?
   75. PerroX Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:24 PM (#2874907)
Beanball wars are not just part of baseball, but part of human nature. Men, esp. those with a lot of testosterone flowing in their veins, are going to fight.

Let them have at it.
   76. OrioleJMC Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:36 PM (#2874914)
kikko is an ethnic slur? Does that mean Kiki Vandeweghe has been a jab at Jews (or Japanese) all along?


Kiki Vandeweghe is worse than Hitler.

There Godwin's law, can we close the thread?
   77. rr Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:39 PM (#2874916)
This might be the worst thread in the history of the site, and that's saying a lot.


This thread is kind of like a Big Mac and fries. You prefer the Filet Mignon threads, I suppose. I am glad we can have both.

This was funny:

Really, it was completely stupid of Chamberlain to throw at Youkilis. Now he's got all the Red sox attention and the Yankees are going to get their heads beat in today. When you are facing a better team, you don't want to make them angry.

Wok is good, but kev is the all-time, unchallengeable, Boston multi-sport fanboy at BTF. The Yankees have some good ones, here, too--but kevin is the man.
   78. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:42 PM (#2874919)
This thread is kind of like a Big Mac and fries. You prefer the Filet Mignon threads, I suppose. I am glad we can have both.


but i want a Le Royale with Cheese!
   79. PerroX Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:43 PM (#2874922)
Just read that Youkilis' family name is "Weiner".

Perfect.
   80. rr Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:44 PM (#2874924)
but i want a Le Royale with Cheese!


You will get that if CC Sabathia signs with KC.
   81. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:48 PM (#2874929)
Over the last decade or so the Red Sox have usually led the league (or been close) in hitting batters, while the Yanks trailed far behind. Same results in the head-to-head games. Not many Red Sox partisans had a problem with that, so they should probably be estopped from now complaining about a few pitches close to Youkilis.

The players will eventually settle this stuff on the field, probably with less violence than some here are suggesting.
   82. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 05:50 PM (#2874931)
Just read that Youkilis' family name is "Weiner".

Yeah, God damn those Viennese.

Edit: I'm going to assume that "Weiner" is a corruption of "Wiener."
   83. Fred C. Dobbs Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:13 PM (#2874950)
Hey Kevin for that situation there is this new invention called a taxi. You would not believe the convenience. You don't have to pay for gas or insurance and don't have to worry about drunk driving. Plus you can make out with the girl in the back seat.
   84. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:14 PM (#2874952)
We have amazing things called subways. They allow one to travel swiftly and efficiently between points. And, as New York is a world-class city, the subways run at all hours, unlike second tier burgs like Philly, Boston, and Washington. I will ride the subway to the home where I live with my lovely wife if we require alone time.
   85. rr Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:16 PM (#2874953)
Yeah, but the "pinochle" thing was still pretty funny.
   86. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:18 PM (#2874957)
Yeah, but the "pinochle" thing was stil pretty funny.

What's wrong with pinochle? My grandmother-in-law plays pinochle. It's a decent game. It's certainly a worthier pastime than trying rile people up on the internet. Unfortunately, one needs to find at least one other person who can tolerate one's presence to play pinochle.
   87. pv nasby Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:19 PM (#2874958)
Translation: "I'm too lazy/uncoordinated/nerdy/intimidated to climb in behind the wheel."

That must be a great pick-up line for you:

Girl at party: This is boring. Let's go somewhere where we can be alone.

rLr: Uh, I can't drive. Can we play pinochle in the den instead?


rLr probably doesn't pick up girls at parties. That's one of the keys to staying happily married you see. He could teach you a lot I'd bet
   88. Raskolnikov Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:19 PM (#2874959)
What's wrong with pinochle? Even better with a babe.
   89. salajander Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:20 PM (#2874961)
Please refrain from feeding the troll.
   90. rr Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:24 PM (#2874968)
What's wrong with pinochle?


Nothing. It's just funny.
   91. rr Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:26 PM (#2874971)
I like Beasley a lot better too.


I agree. Beasley may implode, I guess, but he is more talented than Rose. I don't see Rose as a big star in the NBA, whereas Beasley could be.
   92. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:31 PM (#2874974)
To be clear, I don't know how to play pinochle, though I understand it's something like spades.

But there is more than one way to skin a cat. If one lives in a place where automobile ownership is superfluous or, in many cases, even onerous, not knowing how to drive isn't a big deal. I also am not expert at catching fish from a coral reef, but that's not a big deal in my life, as I don't live on a south Pacific atoll. If I were to find myself on one, I would have to learn. So, too, with automobile driving.
   93. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:34 PM (#2874978)
I also am not expert at catching fish from a coral reef, but that's not a big deal in my life, as I don't live on a south Pacific atoll. If I were to find myself on one, I would have to learn. So, too, with automobile driving.


I don't rlr. I think you live on a South Pacific atoll, you can probably get by without learning how to drive. :)
   94. Mattbert Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:34 PM (#2874979)
Over the last decade or so the Red Sox have usually led the league (or been close) in hitting batters, while the Yanks trailed far behind. Same results in the head-to-head games. Not many Red Sox partisans had a problem with that, so they should probably be estopped from now complaining about a few pitches close to Youkilis.

How many knuckleballers have the Yankees had pitching for them during the last decade?
   95. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:35 PM (#2874980)
But there is more than one way to skin a cat. If one lives in a place where automobile ownership is superfluous or, in many cases, even onerous, not knowing how to drive isn't a big deal. I also am not expert at catching fish from a coral reef, but that's not a big deal in my life, as I don't live on a south Pacific atoll. If I were to find myself on one, I would have to learn. So, too, with automobile driving.
Nah, you're just a #####. #####! Boo!

How many knuckleballers have the Yankees had pitching for them during the last decade?
Does Bernie Williams throwing from CF count?
   96. Mattbert Posted: July 26, 2008 at 06:50 PM (#2874995)
Does Bernie Williams throwing from CF count?

Between him and Damon you might have one...but Damon would count for both sides. But Bernie never played alongside Manny Ramirez, who as we all know would sometimes intercept Damon's knuckleballs before they could be identified as such, thereby saving his teammate from ridicule. So we may not have known the true viability of the knuckleball in Damon's arsenal during his Boston tenure.

This is indeed a thorny one. Let's say that on days when Bernie and Damon played together in the outfield, the Yankees had a pseudo-knuckleballer on the roster, we'll call him Bonnie Wamolims. Not a true knuckleballer like Wakefield or Charlie Hough, but a guy who mixes in a pretty decent knuckler maybe 30-40% of the time. But good ol' Bonnie Wamolims only pitched for two seasons, so I think the Red Sox retain the advantage in potentially mitigating circumstances vis a vis hit batsmen.
   97. salajander Posted: July 26, 2008 at 07:07 PM (#2875007)
How many knuckleballers have the Yankees had pitching for them during the last decade?

Wakefield only led the Sox in HBP allowed a couple of times in the last 10 years.
   98. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: July 26, 2008 at 07:17 PM (#2875016)
I don't rlr. I think you live on a South Pacific atoll, you can probably get by without learning how to drive. :)

Fair enough. Did they have cars on Gilligan's Island?
   99. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: July 26, 2008 at 07:22 PM (#2875023)
-- According to a text message Peter Abraham, Kei Igawa has cleared waivers and been outrighted to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.

Chad Jennings

Not really surprising, but I thought there was a chance the Padres might claim him. Clears up some more space on the 40 at least.
   100. rr Posted: July 26, 2008 at 07:25 PM (#2875031)
Did they have cars on Gilligan's Island?


I'd play pinochle with Mary-Ann and Ginger any time.
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