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Glad he realizes that.
And yes, I include the janitors and the secretaries in that. They're all guilty.
If only FOX realized that most of them could do it better than him.
And we have a winner.
they can do that, but they don't want to, as the announcers are a key part in delivering advertisements, especially given the increase in digital recorders.
Luck must be a zero sum game because we aren't receiving any of it through his broadcasts.
A couple of years ago I heard that someone had figured out how to mess with the audio stream information on your average Cable Box so that he wouldn't have to hear Dickie V during College Basketball games. Only problem is I think it requires significant amounts of know-how and I believe would void your warranty.
I remember that once or twice I've changed the channel and somewhere along the line the audio stream that had the announcers didn't arrive at my TV box correctly (it was during a NFL game). Changing the channel "fixed" the problem. I think the Dick Vitale guy basically figured out a way so that that "glitch" happens all the time.
I do not have surround sound, so I cannot confirm or deny this.
Even Homer Simpson???
I'm pretty sure Homer would volunteer for this.
oh wow--if you could find ANY information about that I'd be eternally grateful.
usually, I can "tune out" announcers as I'm watching, but Vitale penetrates many layers of out-tuning
McCarver, on the other hand...
Yeah, that sounds like a winner. Go for it Hill, it's a can't-miss idea!
I would not be okay with this. A world where the World Series is moved to cable is not a world I want to live in.
I'm sure they'd livestream it for ya!
It's not really about me. I can go to a bar or to a friend's house or something. I just want Major League Baseball to have as wide an exposure as possible. I grew up without cable TV, and there's no way I'd have been permitted to go to a friend's house to watch baseball at 8pm on a school night. I'm sure there are kids today who are just like me in that respect, and they'd miss out on seeing the World Series, which would be a real shame.
Ah, meritocracy in action
They show Laker games like that every now and then. I don't like the NBA, but I enjoy watching those games. I think the cameras are all courtside, so it's like you're Jack Nicholson.
We can't be too far away from technology that will allow you to choose whichever announcer you want, past or present. Robo Vin Scully could step in whenever Regular Vin Scully retires. I'd like to hear John Facenda do White Sox games with Mark Twain.
I think that the percentage of households that have broadcast television only in this day and age is less than 10%.
The issue with putting the World Series on MLB Network isn't that people don't have cable (or satellite), it's that they don't have MLB Network. MLB Network isn't on enough people's basic packages yet.
This number is likely on the rise, though, with the popularity of Hulu and similar online services, in addition to the availability of over-the-air HD.
That's a question only the great Rabbis could answer.
I don't think Skip Caray does much of anything these days.
He's still better than Joe Buck. Probably smells better too.
Hell if I know. Lame commentary on the handwringers who bemoan World Series games that end after 1am on the East Coast is most likely where I was trying to go with it.
They've been predicting this for several years now, but the trend has actually been the other way. Certainly, the notion that if it's not on one of the Big Four, then nobody's watching, is fading away.
The key is to make sure that, if you put it on cable, you put it on a channel that people actually get. Putting it on Versus doesn't do anyone any good.
Do you have a source for this? I'm not saying this to challenge you, I'm just interested in seeing the numbers.
I don't think Buck is awful. His worst sin is that he sounds bored. He's not actively off-putting to me.
I think my least favorite thing about Buck is that he thinks he's clever. He's not.
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IMO, no. Skip>>>Buck.
Here's something from about a year ago that shows that, despite the economic downturn, the percentage of homes with either cable or satellite television was actually still increasing slightly.
There's a general belief that the switch to digital broadcasting actually made people more likely to switch away from broadcast-only; a lot that were watching broadcast only were doing so out of inertia, and once they had to upgrade their equipment, they went ahead and got cable or a dish.
The problem with Buck is that he's arrogant and full of himself, and thinks that people want to hear his voice more than they want to watch the game.
Better than putting it on MLB Network, at least personally. Effing DISH Network.
Probably, but I responded based on Skip, whom I liked. Chip sucks.
this
I feel for you young'uns. You may have to listen to Buck for another 40 years. Most likely, I won't last that long.
Now, if you're talking Chip, I still think Chip is better but not by much and I'd happily see them both out of the business.
Couldn't have said it better myself...well maybe...I'd have replaced "full of himself" with "smug" to conserve keystrokes.
I don't get why networks don't solicit viewers on announcers. Do you really think there's more people out there that like Vitale, Buck, etc... than don't? They finally figured it out with Billy Packer...and I didn't detest him as much as these clowns.
I have no special love for the Fox version of Buck, but he's miles and miles ahead of Chip Caray, who is as close to the Joe Biden of announcers as anyone could get. And as for smugness, spend a season watching Padres broadcasts helmed by Matt Vasgersian and then revisit the topic.
Nobody else got this joke? Good one by DM.
Chip is the worst play-by-play announcer in professional sports. I'd rather die than listen to him ever again. Buck is mind-numbingly boring. He sucks the life out of every broadcast. But he's still much better than Ruffles.
If Joe Buck had called "The Shot Heard Round the World": "Branca's 0-1 pitch ... Thomson hits it deep to left. It's a home run. The Giants have won the game and the pennant. And tonight on Fox, an all-new 'House'."
Or just loaded up on chili con carne and driven McCarver out of the booth with the resulting bodily exhalations.
Man, I miss Bill King.
Or listen to Ted Leitner out here.
"And there's a dunk by Gathers. Gathers collapses. And now he's dead. Tonight, on Fox, an all-new 'House'."
The Giants had McCarver on the radio team a few years ago, and that's precisely what happened.
You could be right; I may be misremembering the specifics. Maybe it was Kuiper rolling his eyes over McCarver. But for sure, McCarver just didn't mesh with the chemistry in the Giants' booth, and he was gone after a single season.
"Harold is down. The battle is over. The Normans win. Nice victory for the Normans. Tonight, on Fox, an all-new 'House'."
"It's practically standing still now. They've dropped ropes out of the nose of the ship; and they've been taken ahold of down on the field by a number of men. It's starting to rain again; it's... the rain had slacked up a little bit. The back motors of the ship are just holding it just enough to keep it from...It's burst into flames. And now it's crashed to the ground. People are running away from it. Oh, the new 'House' episode: tonight on FOX."
Really? I thought his call was terrific. In fairness, I LOATHE these Gus Johnson types (I think that's his name, the lunatic on the NCAA hoop broadcasts) that go bonkers and scream and yell. I'd much prefer an understated approach. On TV just shut up and let the picture tell the tale and on radio make sure you can be understood.
I would dearly love to see the data these networks have and how they get it. Buck is painful to listen to, Joe Morgan is a disaster, yet these guys keep going, year after year after year. It makes no sense to me. Buck I can kind of understand, he's the kind of guy I think would appeal pretty well to a casual fan but guys like Morgan just confuse me, even the casual fans I know hate him.
As others have said, the problem with Buck on baseball is that he comes across as indifferent to the sport. I think the great baseball commentators, like Miller, come across as conversational, like they're chatting to you in your living room, about the game and maybe discursing into life in general. The game is quite simple - you don't really need a commentator to tell you that the hitter just hit a home run, or has been called safe, or what, so the commentator is there to add flavor. Whereas there is so much going on in an NFL game that the commentator is there to give you a steady update of the facts, in a hopefully neutral manner. It's not surprising that few commentators have mastered both styles.
Stuff that should be done with this new Joe Buck meme:
The Play (aka the Stanford Band incident)
Man Walking on the Moon
Any of his father's calls
"Down goes Frasier"
Yes.
Which is why I wish either that the TV announcers would STFU more often, or the networks would provide a 'no-announcers' sound option. Anything exciting/close happens, they're just gonna show it in slo-mo five times anyway.
Side note: I found some old NLCS/ALCS clips on YouTube recently, and the change of game pace was definitely noticeable. A couple of times they had to cut back quickly from the (one) replay of the previous hit, because the next batter was already in the box and the pitcher was already pitching.
On TV, yes. But on the radio the play-by-play guy actually has to call the action.
But I agree, the key in either case is to deliver facts without getting in the way of the action (at which Buck admirably succeeds), while also imparting some manner of interesting, amusing, or warm personality, at which Buck abjectly fails.
Definitely blocked that little incident out of my memory.
My least favorite Buck trait is when he gets it into his head to sing during the broadcast. Uuuggghhhh.
This is ban worthy.
This explains why Buck is so pale: When he's tanning at a beach cats bury him with sand.
I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST HEARD!
Some people don't care for fellatio.
Giving or receiving? I f you mean receiving then you're a liar.
Best snark you could come up with after 12 hours? Lame.
Any of his father's calls
"I don't care about what I just saw."
"Go tepid, folks. Go tepid."
"Pardon me while I stand up and adjust my slacks."
You could be right; I may be misremembering the specifics. Maybe it was Kuiper rolling his eyes over McCarver. But for sure, McCarver just didn't mesh with the chemistry in the Giants' booth, and he was gone after a single season.
When the Giants went to Yankee Stadium for a weekend series, the Friday night game was on KTVU. Miller, McCarver, and Mike Krukow were all in the booth. And the Giants had a guy on the bench named Pedro Felix, according to McCarver.
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