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Sunday, September 09, 2012

Joe Girardi And Joel Sherman Had Themselves A Good Old Fashioned Bitchfest Last Night

Girardi was pissed about answering the same question three times. Joel Sherman was apparently the reporter who asked the repetitive question that set him off. Later Girardi asked Sherman into his office and they had it out. Reports on Twitter sound as though it was a pretty good shouting match.

  David Waldstein @DavidWaldstein

  In all my years i’ve never seen a manager and a reporter go nose to nose shouting at each other as happened tonight. It was classic.

Security was involved.

Sherman, for his part, wrote a scathing article calling the Yankees a bunch of cry baby sore losers without ever once mentioning the altercation. He says the Yankees, in all their anger in how they feel they were done wrong, should “look in the mirror,” rather than publicly rant. A fair point. An entire game was played. Focusing merely on what took place at the end misses the mark.

This morning, Girardi again called Sherman into is office, this time for damage control. Yankees public relations guy Jason Zillo was reportedly involved and this thing will be snuffed out quickly. “We’re in the middle of a pennant race, emotions run high.” “We both have jobs to do, blah.”

Thanks to Butch.

Repoz Posted: September 09, 2012 at 11:25 AM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Joey B. Posted: September 09, 2012 at 11:57 AM (#4230916)
Girardi frankly strikes me as being a complete d*ckhead. What a contrast between him and Joe Torre.
   2. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:18 PM (#4230940)
I don't think Girardi is a d*ckhead. He's a bit of a hothead, no doubt, but he also seems to be pretty good at what he does in a media environment that is unparalleled in its fishbowl-panopticon exposure. (Well, Boston might actually be worse, but it's a different kind of worse.)

I also like Joel Sherman (though I know he's not exactly popular around here, he's become a workhorse), and think that he and Ken Davidoff combine to make the NY Post's baseball coverage by far the best of all the NY dailies.

So I think this is really just a big nothing. I'm betting that Girardi is just feeling a lot of pressure.

Oh, and I don't believe him for a minute when he says that C.C. isn't hurt. SOMETHING isn't right with Sabathia right now.
   3. Dale Sams Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:42 PM (#4230968)
I like Girardi, I liked Torre. I find Madden's schtick to be paper-thin, like Farrell and don't paricularly care for Showalter.
   4. valuearbitrageur Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:50 PM (#4230974)
I really hope he knocked him on his ass. Who "he" and "him" were is irrelevant from the popcorn munching observer perspective.
   5. villageidiom Posted: September 10, 2012 at 08:14 AM (#4231403)
(Well, Boston might actually be worse, but it's a different kind of worse.)
Boston sports media is like a cat that kills another animal just because it was there, then, not knowing what to do with the carcass, leaves it on your doorstep for you to stare at while they go off to watch the Patriots.
   6. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: September 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM (#4231484)
Boston sports media is like a cat that kills another animal just because it was there, then, not knowing what to do with the carcass, leaves it on your doorstep for you to stare at while they go off to watch the Patriots.


Cats leave the carcass as presents. I had one once that left just the heart or liver.
   7. Dangerous Dean Posted: September 10, 2012 at 11:56 AM (#4231590)
Our cats are outdoor cats. They leave mostly-uneaten squirrels, mice and birds all over our back yard. Whenever I see a bird or squirrel come into our yard I pity the fool.
   8. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: September 10, 2012 at 12:57 PM (#4231670)
So, I can understand a manager or player yelling at a reporter, they care about the game and get upset at losses and stupid questions can send them over the edge. It doesn't make it right, but I can understand it. How is it ok at all for a reporter to yell at a manager though? I am not saying Sherman should have just stood there and taken it from Girardi, but shouldn't he have just left the office when Girardi started going off? Doesn't yelling back make himself part of the story? It seems very unprofessional to me, nothing to get fired over, but maybe Sherman shouldn't be in the clubhouse for a week or two?
   9. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: September 10, 2012 at 01:14 PM (#4231688)
So, I can understand a manager or player yelling at a reporter, they care about the game and get upset at losses and stupid questions can send them over the edge. It doesn't make it right, but I can understand it. How is it ok at all for a reporter to yell at a manager though? I am not saying Sherman should have just stood there and taken it from Girardi, but shouldn't he have just left the office when Girardi started going off? Doesn't yelling back make himself part of the story? It seems very unprofessional to me, nothing to get fired over, but maybe Sherman shouldn't be in the clubhouse for a week or two?


I think I'd agree with this more if it was a confrontation during the press conference. Girardi called Sherman in for a private meeting and that appears to be where they really got into it. I don't think Sherman has any obligation to go into a private meeting with Girardi then stand there and get ####### out like a misbehaving child. He doesn't work for Girardi. You're right that he probably could/should have left the office but I can see someone reacting the way Sherman did here. I don't think what he did is some particularly huge transgression.
   10. Gaelan Posted: September 10, 2012 at 01:15 PM (#4231691)
Is there such a thing as a professional sports reporter? These people are basically the bottom rung of humanity. They care about nothing but self-promotion and stroking their own vanity and they will take down anyone they need to do so.

   11. PreservedFish Posted: September 10, 2012 at 01:47 PM (#4231726)
These people are basically the bottom rung of humanity.


Paparazzi.

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