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Saturday, May 10, 2014

John Axford out as Cleveland Indians’ closer; replaced by closer-by-committee

John Axford is out as the Indians’ closer.

Manager Terry Francona told Axford of the decision before Saturday night’s game against the Rays. Francona said Axford will be replaced by a closer-by-committee consisting of Cody Allen, Bryan Shaw, Marc Rzepczynski and Scott Atchison.

Francona said the idea is to get Axford back in the closer’s role as soon as possible.

Axford is 9-for-11 in save chances, but has struggled in the last week. In his last four games, he’s allowed five earned runs on six hits and six walks in three innings. Two of the hits proved to be game-winning homers for the White Sox and Twins.

Thanks to Chet.

Repoz Posted: May 10, 2014 at 08:40 PM | 40 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: May 10, 2014 at 08:56 PM (#4704263)
didn't Bill James invent that?
   2. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: May 11, 2014 at 02:33 AM (#4704314)
He got axed! Ok, that was a bit too obvious of a pun to make.
   3. jdennis Posted: May 11, 2014 at 09:00 PM (#4704650)
demoted from 1st to 5th string
   4. Greg K Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:10 AM (#4704713)
At the moment he's 3rd all-time among Canadians in games saved.

The crucial question on everyone's mind though, does he, at the moment, make the top 10 of Canadian relievers?

Eric Gagne
John Hiller
Jesse Crain
Claude Raymond
Jeff Zimmerman (brother of Jordan Zimmerman...no not that one)
Paul Quantrill
Rheal Cormier
Ron Taylor
Steve Wilson
Jim Henderson

...someone let me know if I'm leaving one out. I think Axford's better than at least a couple of those guys.

EDIT: I suppose Ryan Dempster could Derek Lowe his way into that group.

   5. bobm Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:30 AM (#4704716)
[4] Spanning Multiple Seasons or entire Careers, Born in Canada, From 1901 to 2014, (requiring At least 80% games in relief), sorted by greatest WAR for Pitchers

                                                                                                                                        
Rk              Player  WAR From   To   Age   G  GS  GF  W  L  W-L%  SV     IP   ERA ERA+                                             Tm
1          John Hiller 31.2 1965 1980 22-37 545  43 363 87 76  .534 125 1242.0  2.83  134                         DET         Toronto ON
2       Paul Quantrill 18.0 1992 2005 23-36 841  64 228 68 78  .466  21 1255.2  3.83  118 BOS-PHI-TOR-LAD-NYY-FLA-SDP          London ON
3           Eric Gagne 11.7 1999 2008 23-32 402  48 269 33 26  .559 187  643.2  3.47  119             LAD-TEX-BOS-MIL        Montreal QC
4          Jesse Crain 11.6 2004 2013 22-31 532   0 116 45 30  .600   4  532.0  3.05  143                     MIN-CHW         Toronto ON
5        Rheal Cormier  8.5 1991 2007 24-40 683 108 105 71 64  .526   2 1221.2  4.03  105         STL-BOS-MON-PHI-CIN         Moncton NB
6       Jeff Zimmerman  7.6 1999 2001 26-28 196   0  84 17 12  .586  32  228.2  3.27  151                         TEX         Kelowna BC
7           Ron Taylor  5.2 1962 1972 24-34 491  17 282 45 43  .511  72  800.0  3.93   91         CLE-STL-HOU-NYM-SDP         Toronto ON
8       Claude Raymond  3.4 1959 1971 22-34 449   7 270 46 53  .465  83  721.0  3.66   96         CHW-MLN-HOU-ATL-MON        St. Jean QC
9          John Axford  2.5 2009 2014 26-31 298   0 196 23 22  .511 115  288.1  3.37  119                 MIL-STL-CLE          Simcoe ON
10        Steve Wilson  2.0 1988 1993 23-28 205  23  42 13 18  .419   6  345.1  4.40   88                 TEX-LAD-CHC        Victoria BC
11          Dick Lines  1.6 1966 1967 27-28 107   0  41  7  7  .500   6  168.2  2.83  118                         WSA        Montreal QC
12       Jim Henderson  1.2 2012 2014 29-31 111   0  54  8  9  .471  31  102.0  3.44  114                         MIL         Calgary AB
13       Vince Horsman  1.0 1991 1995 24-28 141   0  25  4  2  .667   1  110.2  4.07  102                 TOR-OAK-MIN         Halifax NS
14        Lefty Wilkie  1.0 1941 1946 26-31  68  12  35  8 11  .421   3  194.0  4.59   76                         PIT       Zealandia SK
15       Bill Atkinson  0.8 1976 1979 21-24  98   0  49 11  4  .733  11  147.1  3.42  109                         MON         Chatham ON
16      Dave Shipanoff  0.5 1985 1985 25-25  26   0  12  1  2  .333   3   36.1  3.22  116                         PHI        Edmonton AB
17    Phillippe Aumont  0.2 2012 2013 23-24  40   0  11  1  4  .200   2   34.0  3.97  100                         PHI        Gatineau QC
18      Steve Sinclair  0.2 1998 1999 26-27  45   0   9  0  3  .000   0   34.1  5.24   94                     TOR-SEA        Victoria BC
19        Ralph Buxton  0.2 1938 1949 27-38  19   0  10  0  2  .000   2   36.0  4.25  101                     PHA-NYY         Weyburn SK
20        Harry ONeill  0.2 1922 1923 29-30   4   0   1  0        0   0    5.0  1.80  266                         PHA         Lindsay ON
21          Cody McKay  0.1 2004 2004 30-30   1   0   1  0        0   0    2.0       0.00                         STL       Vancouver BC
22        Derek Aucoin  0.1 1996 1996 26-26   2   0   0  0  1  .000   0    2.2  3.38  145                         MON         Lachine QC
23        Harvey Shank  0.1 1970 1970 23-23   1   0   0  0        0   0    3.0       0.00                         CAL         Toronto ON
24          Bill OHara  0.1 1910 1910 28-28   1   0   0  0        0   0    1.0       0.00                         STL         Toronto ON
25      George Korince -0.0 1966 1967 20-21  11   0   4  1  0 1.000   0   17.0  4.24   82                         DET          Ottawa ON
Rk              Player  WAR From   To   Age   G  GS  GF  W  L  W-L%  SV     IP   ERA ERA+                                             Tm
26        Tom Harrison -0.0 1965 1965 20-20   1   0   0  0        0   0    1.0  9.00   56                         KCA           Trail BC
27           Earl Cook  0.0 1941 1941 32-32   1   0   1  0        0   0    2.0  4.50  118                         DET     Stouffville ON
28        Bert Sincock  0.0 1908 1908 20-20   1   0   1  0        0   0    4.2  3.86   68                         CIN     Barkerville BC
29         Matt Maysey -0.1 1992 1993 25-26  25   0  13  1  2  .333   1   24.1  5.55   78                     MON-MIL        Hamilton ON
30           Peter Hoy -0.1 1992 1992 26-26   5   0   2  0        0   0    3.2  7.36   63                         BOS      Brockville ON
31         Jack Graney -0.1 1908 1908 22-22   2   0   1  0        0   0    3.1  5.40   52                         CLE      St. Thomas ON
32    Trystan Magnuson -0.2 2011 2011 26-26   9   0   3  0        0   0   14.2  6.14   67                         OAK       Vancouver BC
33    Jordan Zimmerman -0.2 1999 1999 24-24  12   0   2  0        0   0    8.0  7.88   66                         SEA         Kelowna BC
34      Vern Handrahan -0.2 1964 1966 25-27  34   2  12  0  2  .000   1   61.0  5.31   70                         KCA   Charlottetown PE
35       Dave Davidson -0.3 2007 2009 23-25   3   0   1  0        0   0    3.0 30.00   18                     PIT-FLA   Richmond Hill ON
36         Chris Mears -0.3 2003 2003 25-25  29   3  16  1  3  .250   5   41.1  5.44   80                         DET          Ottawa ON
37         Jason Green -0.3 2000 2000 25-25  14   0   1  1  1  .500   0   17.2  6.62   76                         HOU       Port Hope ON
38    Blake Hawksworth -0.4 2009 2011 26-28 124   8  31 10 13  .435   0  183.1  4.07   95                     STL-LAD North Vancouver BC
39            Eric Cyr -0.4 2002 2002 23-23   5   0   0  0  1  .000   0    6.0 10.50   38                         SDP        Montreal QC
40          Ken Crosby -0.5 1975 1976 27-28  16   1   7  1  0 1.000   0   20.1  8.41   47                         CHC      New Denver BC
41             Ron Law -0.5 1969 1969 23-23  35   1  14  3  4  .429   1   52.1  4.99   76                         CLE        Hamilton ON
42          John Upham -0.5 1967 1968 25-26   7   0   3  0  1  .000   0    8.1  5.40   67                         CHC         Windsor ON
43        R.J. Swindle -0.6 2008 2009 24-25   9   0   2  0        0   0   11.1 12.71   35                     PHI-MIL       Vancouver BC
44      Paul Spoljaric -0.6 1994 2000 23-29 195  12  44  8 17  .320   4  277.1  5.52   86             SEA-PHI-TOR-KCR         Kelowna BC
45     Georges Maranda -0.6 1960 1962 28-30  49   8  12  2  7  .222   0  123.1  4.52   86                     SFG-MIN           Levis QC
46          Ryan Braun -0.7 2006 2007 25-26  35   0  12  2  1  .667   0   50.0  6.66   70                         KCR       Kitchener ON
47       Ken MacKenzie -0.7 1960 1965 26-31 129   1  57  8 10  .444   5  208.1  4.80   78         MLN-NYM-STL-SFG-HOU        Gore Bay ON
48   Ozzie Van Brabant -0.7 1954 1955 27-28  11   2   3  0  2  .000   0   28.2  7.85   51                     PHA-KCA      Kingsville ON
49        Chris Leroux -0.9 2009 2014 25-30  65   0  20  1  3  .250   0   71.2  6.03   67                 FLA-PIT-NYY        Montreal QC
50       Bob Alexander -0.9 1955 1957 32-34   9   0   5  1  1  .500   0   11.0 10.64   38                     BAL-CLE       Vancouver BC
Rk              Player  WAR From   To   Age   G  GS  GF  W  L  W-L%  SV     IP   ERA ERA+                                             Tm
51        Ray Daviault -1.1 1962 1962 28-28  36   3  14  1  5  .167   0   81.0  6.22   67                         NYM        Montreal QC
52           Gene Ford -1.1 1905 1905 24-24   7   1   6  0  1  .000   0   35.0  5.66   49                         DET          Milton NS
53      Dave Wainhouse -1.6 1991 2000 23-32  85   0  31  2  3  .400   0  105.0  7.37   67         MON-SEA-PIT-COL-STL         Toronto ON
54           Ron Piche -2.2 1960 1966 25-31 134  11  56 10 16  .385  12  221.1  4.19   85                 MLN-CAL-STL          Verdun QC


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   6. Cooper Nielson Posted: May 12, 2014 at 05:57 AM (#4704739)
This may have been pointed out in a recent post about "lifers," but I was surprised to see here that John Hiller spent his entire 15-season (16-year) career with the Tigers. How many relievers with 15+ year careers have been single-team guys?

Also, there's a guy named "Dick Lines"!
   7. Cooper Nielson Posted: May 12, 2014 at 06:29 AM (#4704741)
How many relievers with 15+ year careers have been single-team guys?

Obviously there's one very famous one. But other than Rivera and Hiller, who is there? Bob Stanley only made it to 13 years, and he also started a fair bit. I can't find anyone else. Relievers seem to get passed around more than other players.
   8. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: May 12, 2014 at 08:23 AM (#4704756)
Also, there's a guy named "Dick Lines"!
Ticket to ride, Dick Lines highway
Tell all your friends, they can go my way
Pay your toll, sell your soul
Pound for pound costs more than gold
The longer you stay, the more you pay
My Dick Lines go a long way
Either up your nose or through your vein
With nothin to gain except killin’ your brain
   9. Greg K Posted: May 12, 2014 at 09:20 AM (#4704803)
As a first impression it seems like there are more French-Canadian relievers (or at least Quebec born) proportionally speaking than hitters.
   10. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: May 12, 2014 at 10:58 AM (#4704915)
demoted from 1st to 5th string

That is pretty funny. "Sorry John, we thought you were the best reliever on the team, but now we've got to move Rzepczynski ahead of you. And Scott Atchison. And Cody Allen. And Bryan Shaw. Yes, we made all these decisions last night."

As a first impression it seems like there are more French-Canadian relievers (or at least Quebec born) proportionally speaking than hitters.

French-Canadian hitters… you've got longtime AAA catcher Pete LaForest, aka Pierre-Luc LaForêt, and… Justin Morneau is from British Columbia… ?

Edit: Russell Martin!
   11. Publius Publicola Posted: May 12, 2014 at 11:01 AM (#4704924)
I thought it was bullpen by committee?
   12. Greg K Posted: May 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM (#4704932)
Ah yes I'd forgotten Martin has a bit of the Quebecois in him. In an odd coincidence I was looking up the 2013 Can-Am League stats and Pete was catching for the Trois-Rivieres Aigles last year. Or at least, he played one game.

I'm in the process of putting together a league of all-time National and State teams. Canada's alright for catchers, so LaForest didn't make the team. But they are weak on middle infield so Martin is fulfilling his lifelong ambition by playing there.

Also of note, Iowa is going to play on the field of dreams diamond. Which apparently has a 100 seat capacity and a ridiculous home run rate.
   13. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM (#4705062)
California will just be silly. Hastily thrown together lineup:

1. DiMaggio, CF
2. Cronin, SS
3. Williams, LF
4. Bonds, RF
5. Murray, 1B
6. Kent, 2B
7. Lombardi, C
8. DaEvans, 3B

Bench:
C: Carter
IF: Doerr, Trammell, McGwire
OF: Gwynn, Snider, Heilmann

SP: Seaver, R.Johnson, Drysdale, Lemon, Sabathia
RP: Eckersley, Hoffman, Orosco, Percival, Wetteland

No matter how you do it, you'll have a bunch of HOFers on the outside looking in. HOFers I didn't pick: Lefty Gomez, Harry Hooper, Tony Lazzeri, Highpockets Kelly, Joe Gordon, Chick Hafey, Frank Chance.

You almost have to split California into two teams for it to be fair.
   14. Greg K Posted: May 12, 2014 at 01:05 PM (#4705070)
In a previous incarnation I did have a north/south line for California.

As it is Pennsylvania seems to pose the greatest threat as they have ridiculous pitching (Stan Coveleski is their long man)

I'm creating 25 man rosters, and then letting AI managers in OOTP set up the lineups, but my projected California lineup looks a lot like that. Though I think I have Carter starting behind the plate, and due to the DH Heilmann is in LF for Williams.

[EDIT: I'm using 3rd best season by WAR to create the players...in retrospect I think I should have used oWAR, but I just have 3 teams left to do out of 32 so too late now. Coming up with club names is also a lot of work. I just named the Maryland Womanly Words, because I found their state motto funny.]
   15. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: May 12, 2014 at 01:25 PM (#4705097)
Maryland may not be terribly deep, but it's got some crazy-great front line talent: Ruth, Grove, Foxx, Ripken.
   16. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: May 12, 2014 at 01:33 PM (#4705109)
I just named the Maryland Womanly Words, because I found their state motto funny.

That's great, you can use the Lovely Ladies logo.
   17. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: May 12, 2014 at 01:34 PM (#4705112)
This subject came up last year at some point. Maryland has got to be the best team per capita. Ruth, Grove, Foxx, Ripken, Kaline, Baker, Texiera, B. Anderson, Baines, Willis, Rommel, et al.
   18. Greg K Posted: May 12, 2014 at 01:42 PM (#4705125)
Not sure of its population in relation to Maryland, but Alabama has a good per capita team too. Outfield of Billy Williams, Mays, and Aaron. Ozzie Smith and Willie McCovey on the infield. Pitching is a bit thin though (compared to the other top teams).

Plus you can include Monte Irvin and Satchel Paige
   19. Cooper Nielson Posted: May 13, 2014 at 07:08 AM (#4705635)
My home state of Michigan is not too good -- only three HOFers in Gehringer, Cuyler, and Newhouser (with Smoltz likely to join them eventually). We've got a pretty good collection of "Why didn't they get more HOF attention?" guys, though, in Bobby Grich, Ted Simmons, Bill Freehan, Jim Kaat, and Billy Pierce. And what does that have to do with Frank Tanana?

Georgia does pretty well with HOFers Ty Cobb, Frank Thomas, Jackie Robinson, Johnny Mize and Bill Terry. Moises Alou and Buster Posey might make the team. Pitching's a bit weaker, with Kevin Brown followed by Tim Hudson and Kenny Rogers, with Adam Wainwright coming on strong.
   20. Cooper Nielson Posted: May 13, 2014 at 07:17 AM (#4705637)
Not sure of its population in relation to Maryland, but Alabama has a good per capita team too.

Oklahoma's smaller than both of them, but it boasts some high-end HOF talent in Mickey Mantle, Johnny Bench, Paul Waner, and Willie Stargell. (And a weak HOFer in Lloyd Waner.) The pitching's crap (Allie Reynolds looks like the ace), but Bobby Cox could manage 'em!

This is fun. I look forward to Greg K's lists.
   21. Cooper Nielson Posted: May 13, 2014 at 07:33 AM (#4705639)
As it is Pennsylvania seems to pose the greatest threat as they have ridiculous pitching (Stan Coveleski is their long man)

Whoa, that Pennsylvania team is insane! Inner-circle HOFers at almost every position.

C - Mike Piazza (or Roy Campanella -- Sorry, Lance Parish and Gene Tenace)
1B - Dick Allen
2B - Nellie Fox
3B - Buddy Bell (if you don't want Bell, you can move Allen here, Musial to 1B, and choose another OF)
SS - Honus Wagner
LF - Stan Musial
CF - Ken Griffey Jr.
RF - Reggie Jackson (leaving Mickey Vernon, Hack Wilson, Hank Sauer, Del Ennis, and Ken Griffey Sr. on the bench)
DH - Jack Clark?

Rotation
Christy Mathewson
Eddie Plank
Ed Walsh
Rube Waddell
Mike Mussina

No room for Stan Coveleski or Herb Pennock. Bruce Sutter and Sparky Lyle in the bullpen.
   22. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: May 13, 2014 at 07:59 AM (#4705644)
If we're using birthplaces, Ohio has a heck of a starting rotation, though Clemens isn't really an Ohioan in any real sense of the term.

C: Buck Ewing/Roger Bresnahan
1B: George Sisler
2B: Pete Rose
3B: Mike Schmidt
SS: Barry Larkin
LF: Ed Delahanty
CF: Elmer Flick
RF: Jimmy Wynn
DH: Frank Howard

SP: Roger Clemens
SP: Cy Young
SP: Phil Niekro
SP: Urban Shocker
SP: Sad Sam Jones
RP: Rollie Fingers
RP: Kent Tekulve
RP: Jeff Montgomery
RP: Roger McDowell
RP: Jeff Shaw
   23. An Athletic in Powderhorn™ Posted: May 13, 2014 at 08:27 AM (#4705654)
The Minnesota team looks underwhelming.

C Mauer
1b Hrbek
2b Jack Crooks
3b Molitor
ss Gene DeMontreville
lf Eisenreich
cf Maris
rf Winfield

sp Chief Bender
sp Koosman
sp Mustache Jack
sp Rube Walberg
sp Bullet Joe Bush
rp Tom Burgmeier
rp Niedenfuer
rp Michael Wuertz

And yes, that would involve playing one guy no one's ever heard of (DeMontreville) at his secondary position to get another such guy (Crooks) in the lineup. On the plus side I did learn of the existence of Burgmeier. Given his career numbers, I'm surprised that he had completely eluded my notice until now.
   24. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: May 13, 2014 at 09:11 AM (#4705671)
Crooks was a pretty good ballplayer - got on base constantly, ran well, and played good defense.

In the tiny bit of Columbus newspaper mining I've done, it seems he was the most famous and popular player of the AA's Columbus team. Certainly the player most discussed in the Ohio State Journal.

That doesn't make him as good a player as Pete Rose or Joe Gordon, but he's probably less of a drag on the team than Eisenreich.
   25. Greg K Posted: May 13, 2014 at 09:13 AM (#4705674)
Yeah, I'm using birth places, so Ohio gets Clemens.

My roster selection system is a bit convoluted for various, long-winded, boring reasons. Essentially players before 1990 must have one of the following:

4000 PA
10 Career WAR
1500 IP
450 Games Pitched
100 SV

Retired players since 1990 are cut down to 1000 PA, or more than 2 WAR in any season

Active players require 4000 PA or 1500 IP

So some active ones are allowed provided their careers are long enough to get some kind of handle on their value (I added this one in to get Venezuela and Canada into the mix, and because it's just fun to have some actives...though it also brought in Arkansas and Iowa).

Minnesota is one of the teams that doesn't quite have a 25 man roster yet. Nebraska, Minnesota, Mississippi, and Oregon are all teams which could field squads as soon as next year. While West Virginia may have to wait a little while longer.

I should finish drafting the teams this week so perhaps I'll post the divisions with the OOTP newsmedia pre-season predictions.

EDIT[Perhaps this will be a useful function for my mostly unused baseball blog!]



   26. Greg K Posted: May 13, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4706049)
Got to opening day! Here are the OOTP media pre-season predictions (I don't necessarily agree with all of them, Illinois seems pretty low...and Canada's win total is insulting. SS Russell Martin will surely lead them to the promised land!) Team names are all provisional, so any suggestions for changes would be very welcome (or for that matter division re-alignments). It is a standard 162 game schedule.

The first division here should be one hell of a race.

EASTERN LEAGUE
Northern Division
New York Highlanders - 105
Maryland Womanly Words - 100
Pennsylvania Lions - 97
Massachusetts Franklins - 81
Virginia Cavaliers - 76
New Jersey Gardners - 70
North Carolina Tar Heels - 66
Canada Moose - 64

Southern Divsion
Georgia Peaches - 98
Dominican Owls - 92
Puerto Rico Guardsmen - 81
Florida Gators - 80
Alabama - Reds 78
Arkansas Razorbacks - 77
Cuba Tocororos - 73
South Carolina Game Cocks - 62

WESTERN LEAGUE
Heartland Division
Texas Lone Stars - 104
Venezuela Toucans - 83
Missouri Magnolias - 83
Oklahoma Sooners - 79
Kentucky Blues - 78
Louisiana Pelicans - 71
Tennessee Volunteers - 68
Kansas Jayhawks - 67

Western Division
California Black Bears - 115
Ohio Buckeyes - 90
Indiana Hoosiers - 85
Michigan Wolverines - 81
Wisconsin Badgers - 76
Illinois Illini - 76
Iowa Hawkeyes - 75
Washington Cougars - 70

The OOTP media is expecting this to be a hitter's paradise of a league. New York is expected to score 1296 (!!) runs, mostly because Canada is expected to allow 1253. There is no inter-league play between the two leagues, and even with an unbalanced schedule it looks like the powerhouses of New York, Maryland, and Pennsylvania will beat the holy hell out of the other division in the East, keeping only one or two teams above .500. Texas and California look like they have the easiest walk to division titles (California because they are the best team in the world and Texas because of lax competition).
   27. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 13, 2014 at 04:45 PM (#4706070)
Can you customize uniforms in OOTP such that matching masks can be provided to the team from Parts Unknown?

And Ed Porray.
   28. Greg K Posted: May 13, 2014 at 05:03 PM (#4706082)
Can you customize uniforms in OOTP such that matching masks can be provided to the team from Parts Unknown?

The other question is, is there a OOTP mod for their home park?
   29. Cooper Nielson Posted: May 13, 2014 at 11:04 PM (#4706265)
I'm shocked that the Lions are projected to win "only" 97 games with that roster. Is it an unbalanced schedule? They definitely seem stronger than the Peaches (though the Peaches look good).
   30. Greg K Posted: May 13, 2014 at 11:11 PM (#4706272)
I'm shocked that the Lions are projected to win "only" 97 games with that roster. Is it an unbalanced schedule? They definitely seem stronger than the Peaches (though the Peaches look good).

It is unbalanced, and that is by far the toughest division.

Also, OOTP seems to rate dead ball pitchers quite poorly (in terms of their star rating upon which the predictions are based. I've found in actual games they are still fairly effective), and the Pennsylvania rotation relies heavily on those guys. That's just the pre-season predictions though, which I've found in OOTP are far from accurate. I still suspect California and Pennsylvania are the two best teams in the group.
   31. Greg K Posted: May 13, 2014 at 11:45 PM (#4706285)
As if on cue Pennsylvania just beat Georgia in the first game of the season 15-4

The bad news is Pennsylvania ace Christy Mathewson injured himself falling off a treadmill and will miss one start. Team-mate Hughie Jennings has said he now refuses to use such devices.
   32. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 14, 2014 at 12:06 AM (#4706298)
Alabama projected behind Florida (and below .500) strikes me as pretty hard to believe. You've got one of the best outfields (Aaron, Mays, Williams), plus three HoFers in the infield (McCovey, Ozzie and Sewell), three Hall of Famers on the mound (Sutton, Satchel, Early Wynn), rounded out by Jimmy Key and Virgil Trucks. Sure, second base is weak (Ted Sizemore, I guess), but Florida, for one, doesn't appear as strong either at the plate or on the mound.

   33. PreservedFish Posted: May 14, 2014 at 12:22 AM (#4706309)
The bad news is Pennsylvania ace Christy Mathewson injured himself falling off a treadmill and will miss one start.

Outrageous.
   34. sardonic Posted: May 14, 2014 at 12:30 AM (#4706318)
For California, Golden Bears, Grlzzlies/Grizzly Bears or just Bears would probably be somewhat more appropriate. The Grizzly is the state animal, and is definitely of a brown hue rather than black. Cal goes by the Golden Bears (combining the Gold rush + bear) and UCLA are the Bruins, and the mascot is definitely a grizzly and not a black bear.
   35. Cooper Nielson Posted: May 14, 2014 at 12:34 AM (#4706330)
As if on cue Pennsylvania just beat Georgia in the first game of the season 15-4

The bad news is Pennsylvania ace Christy Mathewson injured himself falling off a treadmill and will miss one start. Team-mate Hughie Jennings has said he now refuses to use such devices.


I am surprisingly interested in this. I didn't think I would ever care about (someone else's) simulated baseball league, but I am very eager to see who wins the championship.

And I hope Mathewson will be OK! Treadmill injuries shouldn't lead to Tommy John surgery, but yaneverknow.
   36. Cooper Nielson Posted: May 14, 2014 at 12:40 AM (#4706337)
Side note: Why is the "Western Division" of the "Western League" populated mostly with Big Ten/Great Lakes teams which are mostly in the eastern half of the country, and generally farther east than the "Heartland" teams? Seems to be misnamed.
   37. theboyqueen Posted: May 14, 2014 at 12:48 AM (#4706342)
OF: Gwynn, Snider, Heilmann

How does Rickey Henderson not make this bench?
   38. theboyqueen Posted: May 14, 2014 at 12:48 AM (#4706343)
Nevermind, I see he was born in Chicago.

I think this would be more authentic if it reflected where people went to high school or something.
   39. PreservedFish Posted: May 14, 2014 at 12:55 AM (#4706345)
When did conveyor belts and escalators and stuff get invented? Would Christy Mathewson have been familiar with such things?
   40. PreservedFish Posted: May 14, 2014 at 01:00 AM (#4706352)
Wow, Wikipedia has a really robust article on escalators.

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