Rocker said vile things and was fined and suspended. Major League Baseball, the Cleveland Indians and Atlanta Braves license and market vile things (buck toothed Indian, tomahawk chops) for profit.

And how do you think the people in Atlanta feel when a bunch of Yankees come to town?

Excited that the average local IQ has risen?

I've been to the Bronx. You're not winning anything buddy.

Even though the residents of that borough speak Spanish, it is easier to understand them than the average resident of a stars and bars state. And "Deliverance" isn't about a trip down the Bronx River.

I've been to the Bronx. You're not winning anything buddy.

what did we do to deserve this?:)

Even though the residents of that borough speak Spanish, it is easier to understand them than the average resident of a stars and bars state. And "Deliverance" isn't about a trip down the Bronx River

Playing AA ball in the Texas League for Shreveport, Louisiana pushed me over the edge.

That, and a string of Southern governors as President in my lifetime.....

Even though the residents of that borough speak Spanish, it is easier to understand them than the average resident of a stars and bars state. And "Deliverance" isn't about a trip down the Bronx River.

some real anti-Southern hate there.....what did we do to deserve this?:)

I lived across the street from the old Fort Apache, on top of the Longwood Avenue station. Where were you, Riverdale, I assume?

Rickey - I do not hate Southerners. I'm merely responding to the Ft. Sumter-like volleys against the North in the comments so far. :)

Six straight national football titles from the SEC, for one thing. (If the state of Alabama put as much energy into solving its social problems that it does into college football, perhaps it wouldn't rank near the bottom of virtually all quality-of-life statistics.)

You are aware that the volleys at Ft. Sumter were your doing, not ours, right?

Playing AA ball in the Texas League for Shreveport, Louisiana pushed me over the edge.

Bob, you're too good for this site. It's filled with a bunch of sensitive geeks who can't take good humor.

Six straight national football titles from the SEC, for one thing. (If the state of Alabama put as much energy into solving its social problems that it does into college football, perhaps it wouldn't rank near the bottom of virtually all quality-of-life statistics.)[/quote
Having lived in the South, and being a graduate of the University of Alabama, the priorities are just fine. Football means athletics are self sufficient at UA, including women national championship programs of golf, gymnastics and softball. I love how Easterners look down at the south from falling apart and rusty industrial cities.

I'm not from Alabama. I'm from one of the states that never wins SEC titles, so this is lost on me..and hurtful, coming from a Nats guy :)

Six straight national football titles from the SEC, for one thing. (If the state of Alabama put as much energy into solving its social problems that it does into college football, perhaps it wouldn't rank near the bottom of virtually all quality-of-life statistics.)

I love how Easterners look down at the south from falling apart and rusty industrial cities.

Is that what's happening to cities? I thought that they were playgrounds for European royalty and tech millionaires, and pricing out the middle class.

We don't much cotton to you Massachusetts guys with your caaaahs and your chowdah and your Princeton degrees (thanks, Baseball Reference) comin' on this here site and fixin' to put down NASCAR and fried chicken and country music.

Tufts says he had a relative “who was the first woman tried and convicted of witchcraft,” in Essex County, Massachusetts, in 1680.

We don't much cotton to you Massachusetts guys with your caaaahs and your chowdah and your Princeton degrees (thanks, Baseball Reference) comin' on this here site and fixin' to put down NASCAR and fried chicken and country music.

By the way you all are the ones with accents, not us. And Mississippi is a great state (cue insults).

NASCAR is one aspect of the South that I won't even pretend to defend.

NASCAR? Started by moonshiners - enough said

NASCAR? Started by moonshiners - enough said
Entrepreneurs.

No less defensible than hockey.

NASCAR? Started by moonshiners - enough said

I wonder how has fewer teeth -- the average NASCAR driver or the average hockey player.

and anti-reveneurs! The original Tea Partiers.....

I wonder which has fewer teeth -- the average NASCAR driver or the average hockey player

People who piss on NASCAR while remaining silent re: the big Euro racing circuits (or the Indy 500, etc.) are simply throwing class cards on the table for fear of being thought to be part of the uncool hick crowd.

I love how Easterners look down at the south from falling apart and rusty industrial cities.

People who piss on NASCAR while remaining silent re: the big Euro racing circuits (or the Indy 500, etc.) are simply throwing class cards on the table for fear of being thought to be part of the uncool hick crowd.

With the caveat that I don't really do motor sports* in general, the only distinction between NASCAR and Formula-1 racing is class and culture signifiers. Sure, some technical details of strategy and course layout, but in the end, it's a sport where a driver goes as fast as he can in a machine.

He really really really likes African-American women.

Have you ever actually been to an Eastern city? Because your conception of them is about 30 years out of date.

contrary to the narrative, was there anything he said that was actually racist? I seemed to have thought it was a generalization about the city of New York, and who populates the subway.

I love how Easterners look down at the south from falling apart and rusty industrial cities.


Have you ever actually been to an Eastern city? Because your conception of them is about 30 years out of date.

It's a strange criticism anyway ... it's not like the South is where we'd expect to find marvels of modern infrastructure.

Ever been to New Jersey? Its a giant ######## with Bruce Springsteen.

I'd retire first. It's the most hectic, nerve-racking city. Imagine having to take the 7 Train to the ballpark looking like you're riding through Beirut next to some kid with purple hair, next to some queer with AIDS, right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time, right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It's depressing... The biggest thing I don't like about New York are the foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get in this country?

In late 2006, Rocker was interviewed by the popular sports blog, Deadspin along with girlfriend Alicia Marie. In the interview, Rocker discussed his "Speak English" campaign, as well as his upcoming book (which was eventually published in 2011.) Rocker stated that the book will not be used to try to repair his reputation, but will rather be "more conservative Republican rantings."

can't believe I am doing this, as I am not a huge fan of either, but.... NASCAR racing is just not comparable to F1 racing. While it's true there is not as much technical driver input on a banked oval, the driver must simultaneously try to pass and avoid being passed at almost all times. The number of simultaneous moving parts (far more entrants in much tighter racing positions) in a NASCAR race adds a level of complexity that isn't present in F1. The difference in technology between cars in NASCAR is a lot thinner, IMO, as well, making the skill of the driver a bigger difference-maker - it seems to me that in F1 the car wins the race as much as the driver. Tactically and strategically, they just present a different set of challenges - enough to where I'd be hard pressed to call one clearly more difficult than the other.

Both the South and North East have intolerable weather 10 months out of the year.

By the way you all are the ones with accents, not us. And Mississippi is a great state (cue insults).

Both the South and North East have intolerable weather 10 months out of the year.

As someone who lives in Southern California, what is this "intolerable weather" thing you speak of?

John Rocker's vivid articulation of his opinions is what made him a household name.

Unpleasant and annoying.

Well, even if you don't think it's a sport for the people driving the cars, it's certainly at least a sport for the cars themselves.

The biggest thing I don't like about New York are the foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there.