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Friday, December 07, 2012

Johnny Damon would like to play again in 2013

Well, Johnny you’re bad
(Johnny, Johnny)
Come back Johnny.

Last we saw Johnny Damon, he was playing for Thailand in the World Baseball Classic qualifying rounds. His team was eliminated after just two games, but the 39-year-old doesn’t want his 2-for-4 performance in a 12-2 loss to New Zealand to be the last of his competitive baseball career.

“I liked being home last season with my kids. But I’m in shape and if I could play, I would,” Damon told the Boston Globe. “We’ll see what happens. I still think I have something left if I am used the right way.”

After signing with Cleveland in April, Damon played 64 games for the Indians last season before being released in August. Damon hit .222/.281/.329 with four home runs in 224 plate appearances. He’s a career .283/.352/.433 hitter and has a total of 2,769 hits in parts of 18 seasons.

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   1. Arbitol Dijaler Posted: December 07, 2012 at 09:10 AM (#4319295)
Could he be worse than Mike Baxter and Jordanny Valdespin? Yes, he could. But it's not obvious to me that he would.
   2. Rants Mulliniks Posted: December 07, 2012 at 09:15 AM (#4319297)
Well at least the 3000 hits/will we have to put him in the HOF? talk is over.
   3. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: December 07, 2012 at 09:19 AM (#4319300)
"Are you in Thailand, Johnny?"
"Yes, I am!"

\got nuthin'
   4. Howie Menckel Posted: December 07, 2012 at 09:30 AM (#4319301)

When the Topps 2012 midseason Update series comes out, and it includes a card of you doing this, it's a pretty good hint that you're done:

http://www.amazon.com/Topps-Update-Baseball-Cleveland-Indians/dp/B009L7G7M8

http://www.sears.com/topps-update-2012-topps-update-series-baseball-card-us166/p-SPM6930375913

at least it was Chipper's choice

   5. jingoist Posted: December 07, 2012 at 09:59 AM (#4319310)
People in hell want icewater
   6. zonk Posted: December 07, 2012 at 10:36 AM (#4319330)
Simming through a few time-wasters in OOTP --

I've tried several times - using the 2012 roster set - to get some of the older fellows to milestones. I add Omar Vizquel, Ivan Rodriguez, Vladimir Guerrero, Jamie Moyer, Bobby Abreu, and Jamie Moyer.

Damon always seems to fall apart quickest and I have yet to be able to get him to 3000 hits... Vizquel and I-Rod almost always get to 3000 hits. Vlad, I can get to 500 HRs about half the time. I get Abreu to 2500 hits usually. Moyer, I've only been able to get to 300 wins a couple times.

However, Damon inevitably falls apart -- I've only been to get him past 2900 hits one or two times and never really come close to 3000.
   7. BDC Posted: December 07, 2012 at 10:51 AM (#4319339)
Well at least the 3000 hits/will we have to put him in the HOF? talk is over

The same is true for Renteria. 3,000 is just not the breeze it's sometimes made out to be.

   8. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: December 07, 2012 at 11:10 AM (#4319354)
I wonder if it'd be worth it for the Yankees to give Damon a flier on a 1 year, incentive-heavy deal?
   9. catomi01 Posted: December 07, 2012 at 11:17 AM (#4319359)
Damon at 3B would be something I would pay to see...
   10. GregD Posted: December 07, 2012 at 11:23 AM (#4319364)
Is there any doubt he would improve the Mets outfield?
   11. Ray (RDP) Posted: December 07, 2012 at 11:28 AM (#4319367)
“We’ll see what happens. I still think I have something left if I am used the right way.”


Waterboy?
   12. Ray (RDP) Posted: December 07, 2012 at 11:30 AM (#4319370)
SoSH:

I think you mentioned a few months ago that we have a bet for a BP sponsorship regarding whether Damon makes it to 3,000 hits. I apparently have yes, and you have no. Am I correct about this? I don't recall the actual bet but I'm happy to honor it. Please confirm. If we make it to the All Star break and Damon remains unsigned, I will make good on the bet.
   13. bunyon Posted: December 07, 2012 at 11:30 AM (#4319371)
He's not really the right size, but I suppose the Yankees could take a hip and an ankle out of him and shore up the left side of their infield.
   14. SoSH U at work Posted: December 07, 2012 at 11:35 AM (#4319374)
I think you mentioned a few months ago that we have a bet for a BP sponsorship regarding whether Damon makes it to 3,000 hits. I apparently have yes, and you have no. Am I correct about this? I don't recall the actual bet but I'm happy to honor it. Please confirm. If we make it to the All Star break and Damon remains unsigned, I will make good on the bet.


Sounds good. And while you have graciously not demanded proof of said wager, the thread is here if you'd like a reminder. (And no, I didn't have it bookmarked).

   15. Rants Mulliniks Posted: December 07, 2012 at 11:58 AM (#4319397)
He's not really the right size, but I suppose the Yankees could take a hip and an ankle out of him and shore up the left side of their infield.


Size issues aside, wouldn't that be conditional on the centaur not rejecting a cross-species transplant?
   16. kthejoker Posted: December 07, 2012 at 11:59 AM (#4319399)
Player-manager for the Marlins. Let's make this happen.
   17. Tippecanoe Posted: December 07, 2012 at 12:44 PM (#4319430)
He's not really the right size, but I suppose the Yankees could take a hip and an ankle out of him and shore up the left side of their infield.


In which case, we need to decide what percentage of each Jeter and ARod base hit would be credited to Damon. Also, I'd think Youkilis would be interested in his hair.
   18. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: December 07, 2012 at 01:04 PM (#4319454)
Simming through a few time-wasters in OOTP --


You mentioned this with Moyer a while ago and I gave it a try recently. I got Damon to 3000 hits by going into commissioner mode and unretiring him whenever he tried to end the misery. It took him 4 years, the last of which he spent as a DH hitting .140.

   19. Random Transaction Generator Posted: December 07, 2012 at 01:22 PM (#4319470)
It took him 4 years, the last of which he spent as a DH hitting .140.


Which team was that with?
   20. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: December 07, 2012 at 01:26 PM (#4319477)
Which team was that with?


The expansion Brooklyn Owlbears, of course.
   21. Nasty Nate Posted: December 07, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4319501)
this thread is an excuse for everyone to think about '04 Game 7 for a few moments.
   22. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: December 07, 2012 at 02:14 PM (#4319520)
I got Damon to 3000 hits by going into commissioner mode and unretiring him whenever he tried to end the misery.


I enjoy the idea of Damon being physically forced onto the field every day while he desperately begs the league to let him please, for the love of God, just go home.
   23. Ray (RDP) Posted: December 07, 2012 at 02:31 PM (#4319529)
Okay.
   24. zonk Posted: December 07, 2012 at 02:44 PM (#4319533)
I got Damon to 3000 hits by going into commissioner mode and unretiring him whenever he tried to end the misery.



I enjoy the idea of Damon being physically forced onto the field every day while he desperately begs the league to let him please, for the love of God, just go home.


As opposed to Rickey! who would just randomly appear on rosters ala Willie Mays Hayes in Major League...
   25. Dale Sams Posted: December 07, 2012 at 02:53 PM (#4319535)
"What kind of boy are you Johnny?"

"Nuh"
   26. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 07, 2012 at 04:06 PM (#4319595)

Size issues aside, wouldn't that be conditional on the centaur not rejecting a cross-species transplant?


Don't you remember that Loverboy song? "Caveman and Centaur DNA Just Don't Splice!"
   27. Walt Davis Posted: December 07, 2012 at 05:47 PM (#4319692)
Player-manager for the Marlins.

Damon and Pierre on the same team ... priceless.
   28. Nasty Nate Posted: December 07, 2012 at 07:14 PM (#4319752)
Damon and Pierre on the same team ... priceless.


Their long-toss across the outfield would resemble children skipping stones across a pond
   29. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: December 08, 2012 at 02:52 AM (#4319848)
How much better is Victorino?
   30. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: December 08, 2012 at 04:19 AM (#4319855)
How much better is Victorino?


Much.
   31. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: December 08, 2012 at 08:13 AM (#4319863)
One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble.
   32. Lassus Posted: December 08, 2012 at 08:24 AM (#4319864)
Murray Head would be better in the Mets outfield than Damon, so shut up #10.
   33. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: December 08, 2012 at 11:56 AM (#4319900)
Damon and Pierre on the same team ... priceless.


One could play deep left, the other could play shallow left. On a ball hit to the wall they could serve as a double relay, meaning that the shortstop wouldn't have to go more than 20 or 30 feet off of the infield to get the relay throw.
   34. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: December 08, 2012 at 12:50 PM (#4319927)
@ 30 - Really? This is like which sour apple do you prefer? But for 30 million less, the wicked traitor might be worth a shot.

.245 .316 .351 .667 85
.222 .281 .329 .610 73



   35. Nasty Nate Posted: December 08, 2012 at 12:58 PM (#4319933)
@ 30 - Really? This is like which sour apple do you prefer? But for 30 million less, the wicked traitor might be worth a shot.

.245 .316 .351 .667 85
.222 .281 .329 .610 73


The bottom numbers are Damon's 2012, but the Hawaiian was .255 .321 .383 .704 91 last year. And 39-for-45 stealing bases.

The Victorino signing is similar in timing to when Damon signed with the Yankees. They gave him 4 years.

Also, bringing up Victorino in reference to Damon to imply that Victorino is in irreversible decline is odd. Damon wasn't "done" after a 83 OPS+ at 27, or after a 94 OPS+ at 29, or a 96 OPS+ at 33. I'm not crazy about the Victorino signing, but when analyzing it why place so much focus on a 1/3 of a season (the numbers you quoted) rather than his whole body of work? For Damon's last 2 months with the Sox, his OPS+ was in the 80's, but that didn't mean he was about to become a terrible player.
   36. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: December 08, 2012 at 01:49 PM (#4319955)
I'm being Punchy Nate. Obviously Victorino has more upside but I just HATE the signing.
   37. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: December 08, 2012 at 03:42 PM (#4320012)
Which team was that with?

The Mariners.

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