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Wednesday, October 09, 2013

José Abreu’s power display ‘impressive’ at recent showcase | NJ.com

In February 2012, Cespedes signed a four-year, $36-million deal with the Athletics. Last winter, the Dodgers signed Puig to a seven-year, $42-million contract. Abreu is expected to garner a similar deal.

However, Cespedes and Puig, both outfielders, supply stout defense and speed. They can impact games in more ways. They were also younger at the time of their agreements — Cespedes was 25 and Puig was 21.

Abreu is considered a one-dimensional talent — he has drawn comparisons to Edgar Martinez and Ryan Howard — and will be 27 on Opening Day next season.

Those are factors the Mets, and other clubs, will consider as they bid for the slugger. The Mets, who have significant money coming off the books, must decide whether Abreu would be a worthwhile investment.

Jim Furtado Posted: October 09, 2013 at 06:43 AM | 35 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: cuban baseball, free agents, jose abreu

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   1. Arbitol Dijaler Posted: October 09, 2013 at 08:20 AM (#4566615)
Martinez was not one dimensional, and neither was Howard really. Dave Kingman was one dimensional. Chris Davis was one dimensional until he entered the 4th dimension.
   2. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: October 09, 2013 at 09:00 AM (#4566628)
Martinez and Howard are very different comps, by just about any factor - walks, raw power, Ks, size, and handedness. If he's destined to be a DH, just say that.
   3. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 09, 2013 at 09:17 AM (#4566638)
If he can play a reasonable 1B, then it seems like he'd be a good signing for any team needing a 1B. That definitely includes the Mets. Given that he's going to command much less money, and years, than the other FAs on the market, and given the track record of Cespedes and Puig, I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Mets uniform.
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 09, 2013 at 09:17 AM (#4566639)
Howard is also a different race, which is not allowed for comps.
   5. boteman Posted: October 09, 2013 at 10:44 AM (#4566744)
Danny Espinosa is not impressed.
   6. asinwreck Posted: October 09, 2013 at 10:44 AM (#4566745)
Abreu's defense could fairly be described as stout.
   7. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 09, 2013 at 10:51 AM (#4566751)
Howard is also a different race, which is not allowed for comps

In football, every white running back is reminiscent of Mike Alstott.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 09, 2013 at 11:00 AM (#4566762)
Not Merill Hoge anymore?
   9. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 09, 2013 at 11:07 AM (#4566767)
You guys are getting old. It's Peyton Hillis now.
   10. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: October 09, 2013 at 12:03 PM (#4566814)
Or Toby Gerhart.. even though AP has made his contributions moot. He graduated from the same high school that my wife did (Norco was/is a football powerhouse in Inland So Cal). Darryl Kyle also went to Norco, fwiw.
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 09, 2013 at 12:16 PM (#4566831)
Every white receiver is Wes Welker.
   12. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 09, 2013 at 12:19 PM (#4566833)
Wes Welker is just the new Ed McCaffrey.

As for Jose Abreu, we're overdue for a second good player named Abreu. Neither Tony nor Winston did much.
   13. tfbg9 Posted: October 09, 2013 at 12:31 PM (#4566842)
In 2010, he produced one of the best offensive seasons in Cuban history, hitting .453/.597/.986 with a league-record 33 home runs and 93 runs batted in 66 games.


How good a league can this be? That's a 162 pace of .453 81 228 in Triple Crown stats. And its only "one" of the best
seasons ever?
   14. just plain joe Posted: October 09, 2013 at 12:52 PM (#4566860)
How good a league can this be? That's a 162 pace of .453 81 228 in Triple Crown stats. And its only "one" of the best
seasons ever?


Don't the Cuban Leagues use metal bats? I could be wrong about this but remember reading this one time.
   15. jdennis Posted: October 09, 2013 at 12:52 PM (#4566861)
Abreu went all George Wright on the Cuban league
   16. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: October 09, 2013 at 12:55 PM (#4566862)
... and failing to crack 1 in OPS.

I don't think that's right.

In football, every white running back is reminiscent of Mike Alstott.

I can't think of many players who remind me less of Mike Alstott than Danny Woodhead.
   17. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 09, 2013 at 12:55 PM (#4566863)
Isn't it .986 slugging?
   18. tfbg9 Posted: October 09, 2013 at 01:04 PM (#4566874)
Don't the Cuban Leagues use metal bats?


I think they do. And its a short, short season. But still...he hit at a .453/81/228 clip?
   19. Joe Kehoskie Posted: October 09, 2013 at 01:13 PM (#4566883)
How good a league can this be? That's a 162 pace of .453 81 228 in Triple Crown stats. And its only "one" of the best seasons ever?

After hundreds of defections, it's now an A-ball league, at best, with a few remaining ML-caliber players.

***
Don't the Cuban Leagues use metal bats? I could be wrong about this but remember reading this one time.

No, they switched to wood back in 2000.
   20. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: October 09, 2013 at 01:17 PM (#4566887)
I'm about as far from a prospect guy as you can get, but everything I've read about this guy just SCREAMS "red flag" to me.

I'll eat a hat if he gets, oh, Mike Jacobs' career.
   21. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: October 09, 2013 at 01:17 PM (#4566889)
Wes Welker is just the new Ed McCaffrey.

As for Jose Abreu, we're overdue for a second good player named Abreu. Neither Tony nor Winston did much.


No, Eric Decker is the new Easy Ed. Same number, white dude, etc.

BTW, I looked for years to find a McCaffrey jersey. I wore that thing out. Eddie was one of my favorite football players. Alas, I only have one jersey now and it is a throwback Elway jersey
   22. tfbg9 Posted: October 09, 2013 at 01:57 PM (#4566917)
Slider speed bat!
   23. John Northey Posted: October 09, 2013 at 02:34 PM (#4566940)
If I ran a ML team I'd be tempted to see if I could get a private workout and use one of my ML pitchers (maybe a reliever) to throw him a ML quality variety of pitches. See how he does against that and if he still looks great then sign him, if not then let the rest go nuts over a AAA player.
   24. smileyy Posted: October 09, 2013 at 05:14 PM (#4567052)
[23] I have to imagine his agent would very much like for that to not happen.
   25. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 09, 2013 at 06:41 PM (#4567131)
Every white receiver is Wes Welker.


Back in my day it was Steve Largent and before that, Fred Belitnikoff.

Yeah, I'm old.
   26. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 09, 2013 at 07:04 PM (#4567144)
I can't think of many players who remind me less of Mike Alstott than Danny Woodhead.

He's just Wes Welker originally blocked from his natural position by Wes Welker.*






*Yes, I know this is not true.
   27. JoeHova Posted: October 09, 2013 at 07:27 PM (#4567160)
What about Lance Alworth? I've never understood why Biletnikoff got all the hype from that era.
   28. Walt Davis Posted: October 09, 2013 at 10:01 PM (#4567440)
Alworth was hurt by the 1966 Media Decree that white guys were no longer allowed to be "fast". Biletnikoff was cagey and ran smart routes.

OK, somewhat seriously, Biletnikoff lasted forever and Alworth had too much AFL stank on him. But Alworth was a pretty big star in his peak -- he was talked about a lot in the early-mid 70s in somwehat legendary terms. But, fairly or not, a lot of those early AFL performances were looked down on. And I recall the Chargers pass-happy attack being considered the silliest of all (real teams ran of course) ... but I'm going off 40 year memories, real NFL fans can chime in.
   29. starving to death with a full STEAGLES Posted: October 09, 2013 at 11:30 PM (#4567698)
[23] I have to imagine his agent would very much like for that to not happen.
it worked out well for steve nebraska. the guy struck out bret saberhagen and hit a homerun off keith hernandez in a tryout at yankee stadium and was signed for 50 million by lane smith that same day. considering inflation and whatnot, even if abreu only does half of that, his bonus will easily match that.
   30. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: October 09, 2013 at 11:36 PM (#4567702)
everything I've read about this guy just SCREAMS "red flag" to me.


I suppose Cuba is still nominally communist, so, yeah. Of course.
   31. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: October 09, 2013 at 11:47 PM (#4567709)
And I recall the Chargers pass-happy attack being considered the silliest of all (real teams ran of course)


Well, along with Daryle "The Mad Bomber" Lamonica's Raiders, speaking of Biletnikoff. Though I know even those Oakland teams had Hewritt Dixon & probably others for ground-attack purposes. (I presume Mark Van Eeghen came along a bit later. That's about the time I started tuning out on the NFL, when the AFL guys started retiring in droves.) John Hadl's Chargers had ... Gary Garrison? Or was he a WR? Maybe someone surnamed Hickerson?

I refuse to compare or contrast my vague memories with info freely available any football sites or even Wikipedia, dammit.
   32. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: October 10, 2013 at 12:29 AM (#4567723)
One strange thing about those Chargers was that Hadl, the QB, wore #21, and Alworth, the WR, wore #19. And yes Gary Garrison was the other WR. And they had Paul Lowe & Keith Lincoln, two very good running backs. The only surnamed Hickerson in those days that I remember was Gene, a HOF guard for the Browns
   33. depletion Posted: October 10, 2013 at 09:32 AM (#4567815)
Buck Buchanan. Ernie Ladd. Curley Culp. Emerson Boozer. Sherman Plunkett.
Hadl gets extra points for missing a vowel and having only one crossbar for a face mask.
   34. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: October 10, 2013 at 10:20 PM (#4568733)
Buck Buchanan. Ernie Ladd. Curley Culp. Emerson Boozer. Sherman Plunkett.

that only counts if it's enunciated in Howard Cosell's voice

"Em-ah-sun Booz-uh"
   35. Jay Z Posted: October 10, 2013 at 10:33 PM (#4568774)
Every white receiver is Wes Welker.


Not Jordy Nelson. Nelson might be the most athletic white wide receiver since Crazylegs Hirsch.

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