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Monday, April 08, 2013

Jose Molina and Called Strikes - Beyond the Box Score

There is nothing like a handcrafted leather framing of a good pitch.

Jim Furtado Posted: April 08, 2013 at 01:07 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: defense, pitch framing, pitch fx, sabermetrics

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   1. Rants Mulliniks Posted: April 08, 2013 at 01:34 PM (#4407541)
Some revealing stuff.
   2. Drexl Spivey Posted: April 08, 2013 at 02:13 PM (#4407586)
I really wish that MLB would call strikes/balls electronically.

The technology is there; use it.
   3. jdennis Posted: April 08, 2013 at 02:40 PM (#4407626)
the front offices are using it, just see the rays article
   4. jdennis Posted: April 08, 2013 at 02:43 PM (#4407633)
there was another article like this from a different source that tried to correlate the increased called strikes into a WAR, and came up with like 0.5?
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 08, 2013 at 02:47 PM (#4407637)
You would think that as this gets publicized, umpires will react against it, and stop giving close calls to Molina. They won't want to be "fooled" by him.
   6. spycake Posted: April 08, 2013 at 03:13 PM (#4407679)
You would think that as this gets publicized, umpires will react against it, and stop giving close calls to Molina. They won't want to be "fooled" by him.

That assumes umpires are not powerless against the Molina charm.
   7. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 08, 2013 at 03:18 PM (#4407688)
That assumes umpires are not powerless against the Molina charm.

What's that? Free donuts before the game?
   8. GregD Posted: April 08, 2013 at 03:26 PM (#4407693)
You would think that as this gets publicized, umpires will react against it, and stop giving close calls to Molina. They won't want to be "fooled" by him.
They can never remember which Molina they're supposed to be on the lookout against
   9. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: April 08, 2013 at 03:47 PM (#4407723)
They can never remember which Molina they're supposed to be on the lookout against

The one who runs slow?
   10. Ray (RDP) Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:48 PM (#4407771)
Is there a serious discussion of the impact of pitch framing somewhere, including a discussion of (a) whether this is actually a skill and (b), if so, how much impact it has? Or do people just accept Mike Fast's work at this point.
   11. dlf Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:02 PM (#4407789)
Is there a serious discussion of the impact of pitch framing somewhere, including a discussion of (a) whether this is actually a skill and (b), if so, how much impact it has? Or do people just accept Mike Fast's work at this point.


http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jose-molina-on-jose-molina/
   12. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:43 PM (#4407845)
Is there a serious discussion of the impact of pitch framing somewhere, including a discussion of (a) whether this is actually a skill

The article in the link actually addresses this as well, and there are a number of other articles floating around the place to the best of my knowledge.
Or do people just accept Mike Fast's work at this point.

To be fair, other people, like Max Marchi, have done similar research using other methods to calculate pitch framing as well.
   13. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:49 PM (#4407855)
You would think that as this gets publicized, umpires will react against it, and stop giving close calls to Molina. They won't want to be "fooled" by him.


This assumes that the umpires actually care about 1. their reputation 2. accuracy....history has shown that neither of these factors figure into umpire actions.
   14. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:13 PM (#4407879)

That assumes umpires are not powerless against the Molina charm.


Or that they can read.
   15. . . . . . . . . . . Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:18 PM (#4407888)
The author notes that Cervelli, another Yankee catcher, is on the best seasons list for his 2011 season, but fails to note that Chris Stewart, the 2012 Yankee backup, is ALSO on the list.

Me thinks this explains the otherwise baffling departure of Russ Martin.
   16. Walt Davis Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:46 PM (#4407928)
Look at the pitchers please.

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